http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: MMW cycle counter on line! en Tue, 19 May 2026 11:26:43 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321871 Sat, 01 Feb 2020 22:14:44 +0000 acsimpson 321871@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose they are right in a way. Initially they should be allocating far more than the 10% sum to make up for the last 5 decades of chronic over investment in roads. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321738 Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:18:13 +0000 Kim 321738@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sadly, despite the "Climate Emergency", Scot Gov shows no sign of taking cycling as transport seriously, even though the majority of journeys in Scotland being under 10Km and so easily cyclable... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321706 Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:48:00 +0000 neddie 321706@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>the Scottish Government’s position is that levels of transport spend cannot simply be based on percentage allocations for each transport mode. The overall transport budget must reflect existing contractual requirements, planned maintenance and upgrades and it would be wrong to arbitrarily allocate definite amounts to any one mode.</em></p> <p>There's your problem, right there!</p> <p>So it seems fine to "arbitrarily" allocate vast sums to trunk roads, but not to cycling and walking... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321705 Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:19:08 +0000 chdot 321705@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks like it’s about 2030 now... (my bold)</p> <p>“</p> <p>The first Cycling Action Plan for Scotland was published in 2010 and then refreshed in 2013. The purpose of this third iteration is to gauge progress since 2010, and develop a robust set of actions that will help us achieve our shared vision of “10% of everyday journeys to be made by bike, by 2020”. This is no doubt a challenge for all stakeholders and we will work together over the next four years to ensure we have done all we can in tackling this challenge head on.</p> <p>Cycling Scotland’s progress report outlined six pre-requisites for success:</p> <p>A shared national vision for a 10% modal share of everyday journeys should remain, with a related clear aspiration for reduction in car use, especially for short journeys, by both national and local government.</p> <p>A long term increase in sustained funding is required, with year-on-year increases over time towards a 10% allocation of national and council transport budgets as Edinburgh is achieving. </p> <p>The <strong>long term commitment to </strong><strong>2030</strong> <strong>to dual carriageways </strong>between seven Scottish cities should be matched by an equally long term commitment to cycling if modal shift ambitions are to be met and sustained.</p> <p>The national 10% modal share vision should be supported by local cycling strategies and delivery plans at council and regional levels. Local modal share objectives should be coordinated with the national vision to create a feasible route to 10%. Cities will be the driver of significant modal shift and the national vision should be directly coordinated with a specific focus on reaching at least 10% modal share in the cities and the largest urban areas, implementing best practice.</p> <p>The primary investment focus should be on enabling cycling through changing the physical environment for short journeys to enable anyone to cycle.<br /> Government at all levels needs to build and maintain staff capacity to manage cycle infrastructure and the local road network in the present financial climate.</p> <p>Whilst generally agreeing with five out of the six pre-requisites, the Scottish Government’s position is that levels of transport spend cannot simply be based on percentage allocations for each transport mode. The overall transport budget must reflect existing contractual requirements, planned maintenance and upgrades and it would be wrong to arbitrarily allocate definite amounts to any one mode.</p> <p>We have, however, committed to record levels of funding to 2021 as outlined in the Programme for Government. From 2014/15 – around £280 million over seven years, not including the match funding that local authorities and other key partners contribute, will be invested in active travel projects.</p> <p>Also, we do have an <strong>Active Travel Vision to </strong><strong>2030</strong> and a commitment to delivering a long distance walking and cycling network, as part of National Planning Framework 3, which along with the National Cycling Network and the community links programmes, will connect our main areas of population. And, in planning for dualling our trunk road network, we are including in those upgrades active travel infrastructure to ensure communities are connected safely and conveniently. Local consultation meetings for both the A9 and A96 projects have already taken place and will continue to be held over the coming years.</p> <p>“</p> <p>Perhaps we/us/Spokes/PoP should set up DecadeWatch? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321704 Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:37:42 +0000 Frenchy 321704@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/10311/transport-scotland-policy-cycling-action-plan-for-scotland-january-2017.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.transport.gov.scot/media/10311/transport-scotland-policy-cycling-action-plan-for-scotland-january-2017.pdf</a></p> <p>“10% of everyday journeys to be made by bike, by 2020” </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321703 Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:34:45 +0000 chdot 321703@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone know if it was ‘by 2020’ or ‘by end of 2020’? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321688 Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:58:15 +0000 jdanielp 321688@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Perhaps it's because the counters haven't been recording rates that would have met the goal of 10% cycling share by 2020... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321686 Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:23:18 +0000 Kim 321686@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It is odd that CEC and Scot Gov has lost interest in these cycle counters, maybe they are embarrassed at the low count rates... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=4#post-321658 Wed, 29 Jan 2020 14:57:33 +0000 acsimpson 321658@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That seems right. The FRB counter is still stuck on zero for the year. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-321455 Sat, 25 Jan 2020 11:29:08 +0000 Frenchy 321455@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>None in the Netherlands either. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-321454 Sat, 25 Jan 2020 11:26:57 +0000 Arellcat 321454@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was just made aware of this map:</p> <p><a href="http://eco-public.com/ParcPublic/?id=4586#" rel="nofollow">http://eco-public.com/ParcPublic/?id=4586#</a></p> <p>Obviously no cycling going on anywhere in the UK north of Manchester. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-307742 Thu, 30 May 2019 09:21:40 +0000 neddie 307742@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It seems to be unreliable at counting at the moment.</p> <p>Several times I've passed over and it hasn't recorded anything, but sometimes it does. I've also seen others pass over and it not register.</p> <p>So the counts must be misleadingly low at the moment.</p> <p>Must try to get a video of it.</p> <p>Also, is there any way to compare previous data with current data? - that should highlight an anomaly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291624 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:24:35 +0000 jonty 291624@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes that's quite annoying (and the barriers seem very mobile.) Given the speed with which they arrived, I'm assuming they were part of the plan all along rather than a direct response to observations/feedback. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291623 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:24:35 +0000 jonty 291623@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes that's quite annoying (and the barriers seem very mobile.) Given the speed with which they arrived, I'm assuming they were part of the plan all along rather than a direct response to observations/feedback. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291598 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:48:56 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 291598@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chicanery in place at the top of the works this morning. IMV making things worse but maybe felt necessary to slow downhill bikes... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291596 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:30:03 +0000 jonty 291596@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah - much better compliance on that sign than the Cyclists Dismount before it for the closure of the other side of the path. I'm a fan. </p> <p>Having said that with these works I can't help but get the feeling that, because they're not disrupting a precious road, they can go on for as long as they like. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291594 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:13:18 +0000 chdot 291594@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“which seems like a fairly reasonable request“</p> <p>Yes and, perhaps more importantly, tells pedestrians that people on bikes HAVE the right to be there if they behave responsibly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291592 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:10:16 +0000 jdanielp 291592@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I didn't spot that, but I did spot that there is now more cycling friendly signage in place around the works, which instead of telling us to dismount suggests that we instead ride through the area at walking speed, which seems like a fairly reasonable request. I was only on MMW rather than diverting through QuarterMile because the lights had just turned red as I approached the crossing at the top of MMW. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291589 Wed, 19 Sep 2018 10:00:04 +0000 piosad 291589@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Back up this morning </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-291139 Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:34:15 +0000 Nelly 291139@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>MMW counter still down. 3 weeks and counting...... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-289472 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:33:34 +0000 crowriver 289472@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Not massive numbers. Should we be worried?"</p> <p>As long as buses and pedestrians are still using it, hopefully not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-289471 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:31:22 +0000 paddyirish 289471@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I took note of the FRB one for the first time on Tuesday. I was no 13 for the day in the morning and no 253 in the evening. </p> <p>Not massive numbers. Should we be worried? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-289463 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:01:12 +0000 SRD 289463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spokes says they reported last week. </p> <p>(I kept forgetting too).</p> <p>pity, as the tourists have been having such fun watching it changed whenever I cycled over. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-289462 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:01:04 +0000 dougal 289462@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sabotage! Trying to prevent us breaking the 500k barrier. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-289461 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:52:47 +0000 Arellcat 289461@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I noticed on Tuesday it was reading zero, and I even tried jumping on the sensors, but it didn't help. I meant to report it, but I was having a busy day and forgot all about it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-289455 Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:13:13 +0000 SRD 289455@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The MMW cycle counter has been down (showing 0) for most of this week. I tweeted about it this morning. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-235786 Mon, 07 Nov 2016 15:06:21 +0000 jonty 235786@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>&gt; We certainly use the bridges a lot more rather than MMW since the bridges changed to 20mph.</p> <p>Interesting - have you personally noticed an improvement? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-235754 Sun, 06 Nov 2016 23:24:40 +0000 UtrechtCyclist 235754@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We hit 500k tonight. Last year we hit 500k on the evening of 13th November, so we're seven days ahead.</p> <p>There are lots of reasons why this is not a great measure of the growth of cycling in the city, including that people change their routes. We certainly use the bridges a lot more rather than MMW since the bridges changed to 20mph.</p> <p>But still, it looks like we're two to three percent up on last year. An okay figure, steady growth but no cycling revolution... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-235736 Sun, 06 Nov 2016 15:52:32 +0000 drnoble 235736@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Looks like the MMW counter will top half a million tomorrow, was at 499,600 odd this afternoon (unless we organise a CCE night ride up and down MMW…) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14194&page=3#post-215037 Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:24:05 +0000 Morningsider 215037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I used to go over the MMW counter twice a day, but since the new off-road route to the Innocent opened I don't. I can't be the only one to have diverted away from the counter, which might reduce the total a bit. I suppose the new route might have caused some people to divert onto the counter - would be interesting to know what impact this has had. Perhaps the counter would be best moved to the main junction of MMW - would capture a huge number of cyclists, although placing the sensors would be tricky. </p>