http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Active stats - costs of cycling v other transport options en Mon, 06 Apr 2026 02:37:42 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-201650 Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:51:41 +0000 chdot 201650@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/the-great-edinburgh-bike-experiment-june-july-and-august" rel="nofollow">https://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/the-great-edinburgh-bike-experiment-june-july-and-august</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-192012 Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:59:09 +0000 wingpig 192012@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://movingforward.discoursemedia.org/costofcommute/" rel="nofollow">http://movingforward.discoursemedia.org/costofcommute/</a></p> <p><blockquote><em>"The 003 Main Street bus, which runs between downtown Vancouver and Marine Drive SkyTrain station, is such an efficient way of moving people that it actually saves society two cents every time a passenger travels one kilometre.</p> <p>That is just one insight from the Cost of Commute Calculator, an interactive tool we developed that aims to capture the full cost and benefit of driving, taking the bus, cycling and walking in Metro Vancouver. Big ticket items like the cost to build road infrastructure or operate buses typically dominate debate over the ongoing transit referendum in Metro Vancouver. In addition to those, this calculator also considers the costs of less obvious impacts like emissions, climate change, accidents, congestion and even noise pollution."</em></blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-192007 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 18:01:33 +0000 chdot 192007@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A looong one -</p> <p>"</p> <p>Valuing the social impacts of public transport</p> <p>...</p> <p>This report was commissioned by the Department for Transport which has granted permission for publication in this form. The findings and recommendations are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the views of the Department for Transport.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/226802/final-report.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/226802/final-report.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-192006 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:57:34 +0000 chdot 192006@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This?</p> <p><a href="http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/jtrc/DiscussionPapers/DP201101.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/jtrc/DiscussionPapers/DP201101.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-192005 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:51:44 +0000 wingpig 192005@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There was a Canadian thing where someone had worked out the various societal costs/benefits of all modes of transport. Currently trapped in an area of low internet which Google refuses to work with. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-191944 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:37:21 +0000 Nelly 191944@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I dont know how typical I am, but I spend virtually nothing on my cycling. </p> <p>This year so far it is only a set of brake blocks and a chain - total cost less than £20. Reckon I am due a new gatorskin on the front in the summer. I know I am kidding myself though as I have loads of barely used clothes / batteries / stuff I bought in sales etc in previous years.</p> <p>Car costs are horrific by comparison - I have a company car which I am seriously thinking of binning next year, as the cost in tax is astronomical - especially for something I drive maybe once a week. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-191942 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:25:31 +0000 Claire 191942@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks for the mention! Someone mentioned on Twitter re the societal benefit in monetary terms afforded by cycling. They stated it was 0.16c Euro given to society for every mile cycled. So might have to tot that up at the end of the year if I can find the research to back up the number... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-191887 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:18:10 +0000 Dave 191887@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I still haven't spent anything on commuter stuff so I am really storming this year (although technically I have bought a new frameset for the winter, I don't think this can count yet as it's still bagged up).</p> <p>Last week we bought a new car and so far it has cost over £14 per mile driven, so I don't think the bike side of the equation is in any danger either way! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-191870 Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:16:10 +0000 chdot 191870@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>The Great Edinburgh Bike Experiment – March, April and May I’m a bit behind with my Great Edinburgh Bike Experiment. </p> <p>The stress of the house move got in the way of regular updates and I’ve only now looked at all my data. This is cool in hindsight, because any savings and my mileage will look more impressive…</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/the-great-edinburgh-bike-experiment-march-april-and-may" rel="nofollow">https://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/the-great-edinburgh-bike-experiment-march-april-and-may</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-184412 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:25:22 +0000 Dave 184412@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I haven't spent anything at all on commuter cycling this year. If I can keep this going it will make an easy comparison by year's end :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-184380 Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:56:05 +0000 Baldcyclist 184380@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>March stats, £95 down for year (don't know what's happening with formulas)....</p> <p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBIoofMWoAAmBy7.png"></p> <p>April* spending so far, should end up 'even' for April as 'project' spending now mostly done...</p> <p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBIp5TQWoAE3wY0.png"></p> <p>hmm, must include a Total spend, and separate discretionary and mandatory purchases too. I'm 'up' by quite a bit if you don't include the hobby spend...</p> <p>*I know it's not actually April yet, but base my spending on salary dates, not calendar month. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182400 Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:31:35 +0000 crowriver 182400@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I went through a long phase of buying *loads* of cycling kit, parts, bits, accessories. </p> <p>A lot of it is lying around in the garage or the wardrobe... :-)</p> <p>This year, I've spent £0. Yep, nothing so far. I'm slowly using up <strike>all</strike> some of the stuff I've 'stockpiled'. Oh, might need new batteries for the rear light on my old Raleigh. I'm sure there'll be some maintenance and spares required at some point soon on the most regularly used bikes.</p> <p>I cycle most days, though I don't cycle for commuting purposes any more: I walk to the train station.</p> <p>Part of the expenditure reduction is related to a relative lack of 'hobby' cycling recently, due to the foul weather. That's due to change though... But there are only so many cycling caps, jackets, longs, panniers, etc. that you actually need!</p> <p>*Top tip*: When running Schwalbe Marathon or Marathon Plus tyres, I find the requirement for new inner tubes reduces to practically nil. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182364 Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:46:22 +0000 wee folding bike 182364@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I got some industrial Docs in July. Steel toes, fleece lining, commando soles and half the price of the ordinary ones. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182262 Tue, 03 Mar 2015 11:09:25 +0000 Dave 182262@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The point about leisure spend is a good one, although I'm also not sure how useful it would make the comparison. </p> <p>Case in point, I just bought some new suspension forks - they'll never be used in any kind of transport capacity and cost about the same as a year's worth of fuel for the car. But how do you price the value of your leisure time? Clearly different for everyone, whereas at least gym membership and commuting are (a little?) more standardised. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182246 Tue, 03 Mar 2015 10:04:52 +0000 I were right about that saddle 182246@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe just me but the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility">utility</a> term in the cycling vs not cycling equation far outweighs any other term.</p> <p>And that despite £400 in parts this month. You'd have to pay me <em>not</em> to cycle. Lots. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182239 Tue, 03 Mar 2015 07:52:03 +0000 gembo 182239@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Dr marten boot is a style icon? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182238 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:53:27 +0000 wee folding bike 182238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My cycling wardrobe is my wardrobe. It's mostly outdoors kit rather than Lycra. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182156 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 11:11:39 +0000 Claire 182156@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@fimm, mostly non-sporty-looking garments with a technical element for city cycling. I have a bad habit of snapping up merino in the sale and have a saved search on eBay for Rapha... I also regularly check Cycle Chic and Velo Vixen for sale items. Saying that, I'm trying to curb the spend a bit! I bought a Cafe Du Cycliste top in the sale over Xmas and haven't purchased anything since. </p> <p>@instography Yeah, the leisure/hobby element is a fair point. Last month I didn't cycle much for leisure. But a leisure spend will be relevant for loads of other people. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309&page=2#post-182135 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 09:39:37 +0000 fimm 182135@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Claire, when you talk about "cycle chic", what sort of thing do you mean? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-182125 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 08:40:50 +0000 Baldcyclist 182125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Regarding the hobby element, that's the main reason I included a mandatory, or discretionary tag, to try and account for that too.</p> <p>In some respects you could argue that in Feb, £7 of my hobby spend was offset against my travel 'saving'. If you took the £27 off that I spent on the rack pack, then I made a £7 travel saving over the month.</p> <p>Knowing roughly what my 'project' spend will be this year, I predict that I will break even by May, and will save hundreds over the year. I think my travel saving over the year will more than pay for my component addiction.... In previous years I have given up on recording spending as I always seem to spend a lot at the start of the year. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-182122 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 00:36:51 +0000 chdot 182122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>But my 'hobby' is <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14086">collecting bikes</a>. </p> <p>I daren't do a spreadsheet... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-182121 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 00:25:49 +0000 Instography 182121@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>People only seem to consider cycling as transport (offsetting car or public transport costs) or fitness (offsetting gym membership) but it also has a huge hobby or leisure component. Since it's a common comparison, why not consider the bike as offsetting that set of golf clubs or club membership? That chain could be six golf balls. People who have hobbies spend a lot on them. In your experiment you should be allowed to write off some of the costs of cycling as the cost of having a leisure interest that sometimes involves buying stuff. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-182120 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 00:16:23 +0000 Claire 182120@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@baldcyclist I figure everyone's lifestyles are different so it's hard to directly compare costs. However, it's still interesting to see! </p> <p>The £120 discretionary bike bits will definitely be eating into your figures... I am up £130 odds year to date now but am being very sensible with the cycle chic obsession. It could all be lost on one jacket ;) </p> <p>Finding my spends curbed and behaviour changing as a result of monitoring my spend too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-182117 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 23:24:08 +0000 Baldcyclist 182117@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I must do better in March in relation to train spending, I've already spent £120 in 'discretionary' bike bits spending so far in March....</p> <p>I don't compare against car cost, or gym membership because if I didn't cycle I wouldn't go to the gym, and even though I do cycle I run a car, and would in any event.</p> <p>I'll probably just be reminded again that spreadsheets, and recording cost is bad!..</p> <p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_C3nO9W4AA29_y.png:medium"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-182111 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:41:15 +0000 chdot 182111@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/the-great-2015-edinburgh-bike-experiment-february-edition/" rel="nofollow">https://clairecycles.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/the-great-2015-edinburgh-bike-experiment-february-edition/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-179662 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:03:42 +0000 gembo 179662@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@paddyirish, nIkwax tech wash, adds up. I use a tablet of non bio from the co-op but make sure no fabric conditioner involved and use the acrylic cycle on the machine. Seems to work, tho noticed my most worn base layer which is merino now has thumb hole and another thumb hole next to it on the right hand sleeve. But it does not owe me anything. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-179651 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:58:55 +0000 Claire 179651@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Santa's presents definitely don't count! Birthday money or gifts are also excluded. Sadly, gifts to yourself from yourself will probably have to be accounted for...</p> <p>It would be fab if more folk wanted to take this wee project on - would be interesting to compare notes at the end of each month! :) Sounds like lots of forumites already keep an eye on their spend/savings.</p> <p>@wingpig if you wear cycle gear as your regular clobber then the spend isn't cycle-specific! I'd have to add up all my charity shop buys as an outgoing otherwise ;) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-179649 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:29:05 +0000 paddyirish 179649@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tried to quantify and found it almost impossible. On top of all the points above, there is silly stuff like showering at work rather than home - saves money, but on the other hand, I wash my cycling kit in Nikwax tech wash as I found normal detergents trashed it... that costs.</p> <p>Stuff received from Santa doesn't count in my costs - right?</p> <p>Will try to quantify it but it will take time... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-179634 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:58:58 +0000 wingpig 179634@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wear cycle-specific clothing all the time, outside of work, increasing the usage-return on the investment therein. The reinforced knees of Endura Humvees are ideal for scraping around after children, the large rear pockets are ideal for carrying two snoutsworth of hankies, the zippy pockets are idel for ensuring that money and cards are safe from falling-out and the zippy hip pockets likewise for phone and keys. I buy a new pair every few years and rotate them. Similarly loose-fitting bikewear-tops can be employed at all times of day and all conditions. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14309#post-179610 Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:00:27 +0000 Claire 179610@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe I should also note any non-essential spends too then... To see whether I really am saving any money. Hmm! Being more aware of my bike-spending behaviour might also help my wallet, haha! :) </p>