http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Desire lines en Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:40:23 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357154 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 15:47:31 +0000 acsimpson 357154@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ejstubbs, sorry for the dodgy link.</p> <p>@Frenchy, Thanks for the explanation. I thought I was going mad as the link I copied and pasted was exactly what ejstubbs posted. I just forgot to use the link builder. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357152 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:12:19 +0000 chdot 357152@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51704600929_5d1626a885_z.jpg"></p> <p>Context</p> <p>Taken today</p> <p>Location immaterial </p> <p>Purpose </p> <p>To illustrate a simple (if inelegant) way of removing/improving a muddy desire line. </p> <p>Or perhaps creating a useful/sensible route? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357151 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:06:46 +0000 chdot 357151@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>No wonder people are leaving this forum in droves.</p> <p>“</p> <p>Ah yes, all my fault. </p> <p>Personal choice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357150 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:05:28 +0000 chdot 357150@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Um</p> <p>Context</p> <p>Well</p> <p>Due to the erratic nature of my Flickr Uploadr app, it can takes months (literally) for some photos to appear on my Flickr timeline!</p> <p>The actual photo was indeed taken at Barnton, but - without context - merely serves as an illustration. </p> <p>The reason it was taken was because I had decided to see what sort of route I could take without shooting down the hill to the bridge over the Almond, then up the steep hill and on towards DMains. </p> <p>So, pavement (not shared use) room for ‘better’ but probably not worth doing anything about. PLENTY room for proper on-road segregation… </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357146 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 11:28:36 +0000 Frenchy 357146@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ejstubbs - If you copy and paste the whole of acsimpson's link (including the bit after the equals sign), it works. The exclamation points in the url breaks the automatically-turn-this-into-a-hyperlink process, unfortunately. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357145 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:54:45 +0000 CocoShepherd 357145@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What's with the hoo-ha beef. Awful lot of beefs this last week or two </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357143 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:38:49 +0000 ejstubbs 357143@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@acsimpson: Your link is about half a mile out. That desire line is actually <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9635965,-3.3155653,3a,75y,85.79h,79.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spZYTqhi-f1y-usFdLfywXg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192">here</a>. And without knowing more about the location, it is unreasonably difficult to make sense of your comment. IMO. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357142 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:33:59 +0000 crowriver 357142@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@neddie, I presume you're being ironic?</p> <p>(Or maybe not...) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357141 Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:27:45 +0000 neddie 357141@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Actually it's really frustrating seeing images with no context and then trying to work out where they are. No wonder people are leaving this forum in droves.</p> <p>You know. Is this something near my house that I need to write to my councillor about? Or is it something down in London that I can safely ignore? I literally have NO IDEA </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357137 Wed, 24 Nov 2021 22:09:06 +0000 acsimpson 357137@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Do we need context? The desire line in chdot's picture is located here: <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9636775,-3.315676,3a,15y,125.59h,82.98t/data=" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/maps/@55.9636775,-3.315676,3a,15y,125.59h,82.98t/data=</a>!3m6!1e1!3m4!1see3ODCXkkyVyDd82TC05sA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357130 Wed, 24 Nov 2021 15:52:53 +0000 neddie 357130@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Context? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357128 Wed, 24 Nov 2021 15:23:45 +0000 acsimpson 357128@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not just caused by the narrowness of the bridge behind you and the busyness of the road. There's also no simple way to get over the Brig if you are starting on that side of the road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-357118 Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:11:08 +0000 chdot 357118@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51701605026_fddc642514_z.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318812 Tue, 03 Dec 2019 10:54:57 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 318812@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Paris<br /> in the<br /> the spring </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318811 Tue, 03 Dec 2019 10:11:51 +0000 LaidBack 318811@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@fimm</p> <p>It says:<br /> "Most people will will complete the test in five minutes or so."</p> <p>Is having two 'wills' part of the test? :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318810 Tue, 03 Dec 2019 09:51:01 +0000 fimm 318810@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em> The Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy scale [is] a test of sociopathy... The LSRP was developed in 1995 for use in psychological research. It measures on two scales: primary psychopathy (psychopathic emotional affect) and secondary psychopathy (psychopathic lifestyle).</em>"</p> <p>From <a href="https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/LSRP.php">here</a>. I've no idea if that is a good source or not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318800 Mon, 02 Dec 2019 23:37:16 +0000 gembo 318800@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wingpig, clearly psychopathic that little Hammy </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318799 Mon, 02 Dec 2019 23:26:50 +0000 wingpig 318799@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The hamster wouldn't get a very good score on the LSRP. Cheat. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318788 Mon, 02 Dec 2019 21:14:49 +0000 gembo 318788@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also the hamster does exit by the exit door despite climbing all over the walls of the maze. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318752 Mon, 02 Dec 2019 10:26:57 +0000 fimm 318752@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That video is very funny... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-318659 Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:10:35 +0000 chdot 318659@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/fifeplanning/status/1200372313092493313" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/fifeplanning/status/1200372313092493313</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292911 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 14:25:59 +0000 fimm 292911@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I wonder if, using funky timelapse footage of road junctions, you could show desire lines of where people actually want to cross?</em><br /> I'm sure I've seen something like that from London. Something to do with Bank Junction, perhaps... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292910 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 14:18:39 +0000 jonty 292910@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>&gt; I wonder if, using funky timelapse footage of road junctions, you could show desire lines of where people actually want to cross.</p> <p>Did they not do something like that in the George St consultants' report? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292909 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 14:05:50 +0000 neddie 292909@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And the desire-lines of how people cross the vast car parks out at places like Hermiston Gait </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292908 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 14:03:52 +0000 Juanito 292908@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Unfortunately many of these desire lines will only show on grassy verges and the like...</p> <p>I wonder if, using funky timelapse footage of road junctions, you could show desire lines of where people actually want to cross. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292899 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:27:04 +0000 chdot 292899@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Desire paths: the illicit trails that defy the urban planners</p> <p>“</p> <p>Well no actually.</p> <p>Planners unwilling to facilitate reasonable reality. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292894 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:19:30 +0000 gembo 292894@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Romans had many desires </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292888 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 13:00:35 +0000 PS 292888@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>On that basis most roads (as opposed to streets) were desire lines. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329&page=2#post-292876 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:06:17 +0000 I were right about that saddle 292876@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The guardian claims that the Cowgate is a desire line.</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/05/desire-paths-the-illicit-trails-that-defy-the-urban-planners" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/05/desire-paths-the-illicit-trails-that-defy-the-urban-planners</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14329#post-292874 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 12:05:19 +0000 unhurt 292874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Timely &amp; rather nice article on just this topic: <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/05/desire-paths-the-illicit-trails-that-defy-the-urban-planners" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/oct/05/desire-paths-the-illicit-trails-that-defy-the-urban-planners</a></p> <p>"Desire paths have been described as illustrating “the tension between the native and the built environment and our relationship to them”. Because they often form in areas where there are no pavements, they can be seen to “indicate [the] yearning” of those wishing to walk, a way for “city dwellers to ‘write back’ to city planners, giving feedback with their feet”." </p>