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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: spokes supermarket project http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: spokes supermarket project en Wed, 13 May 2026 05:19:55 +0000 chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-296437 Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:37:50 +0000 chdot 296437@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Indeed. threefromleith on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-296435 Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:09:21 +0000 threefromleith 296435@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ All that space in front of the new Easter Road Lidl and only 5 racks? chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-296324 Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:42:06 +0000 chdot 296324@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4836/45105064095_6002f4e7ce.jpg"> wingpig on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-275804 Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:57:14 +0000 wingpig 275804@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ If you're in the NEPN and want to go to Morrison's on Ferry Road, or just like to know about escape routes, the City Park cut-through is less glass-infested than the slope up to the road next to Ainslie Park, but the bollards might not let a long or wide cycle through: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dPBsmUEqsw&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dPBsmUEqsw&feature=youtu.be</a> kaputnik on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-233957 Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:54:09 +0000 kaputnik 233957@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Thought. Is it just Waitrose at Comely Bank that uses the surrounding streets as the defacto van park for their home delivery vehicles or are there others? I know Tesco at Corstorphine makes a habit of using the double yellows street outside for parking up their artics before they enter the deliveries compound. chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-210693 Wed, 03 Feb 2016 11:52:23 +0000 chdot 210693@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2016-01-30/" rel="nofollow">http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2016-01-30/</a> chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-185044 Sat, 04 Apr 2015 10:49:34 +0000 chdot 185044@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Not forgetting another Canonmills 'access' issue. <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5934" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=5934</a> I'm sure CEC thinks the Rodney Street Tunnel has 'solved' this one! chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-185043 Sat, 04 Apr 2015 10:47:01 +0000 chdot 185043@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "actively discourage cyclists from shopping at Sainsburys" <a href="http://www.citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1324" rel="nofollow">http://www.citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1324</a> wingpig on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-185041 Sat, 04 Apr 2015 10:10:38 +0000 wingpig 185041@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Asda Jewel is just off a bike path, with an access slope, but you're on your own through the car park. Asda Newhaven is very close to the end of the NEPN but requires crossing Lindsay Road, using the crossing which is next to the steps, not the slope, on the south side. LIDL Dalry has the path behind it, from which the store cannot be accessed without steps. Craigleith Sainsbury waggles it tongue at the NEPN across the car park. chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-185040 Sat, 04 Apr 2015 09:55:03 +0000 chdot 185040@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "If possible please complete the survey by end of March." I presume someone is having a fun Easter putting this all together. Anyone here involved? I assume Spokesers/CCEers have managed to cover the bike parking at all the Edinburgh superishstores and a good selection of the 'metros'. BUT "We are now embarking on a – hopefully – more comprehensive project to survey bike parking and access, and how it could be improved, at as many local supermarkets as possible in Edinburgh and the Lothians." (<a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/2015/03/supermarkets-bikepark-project">Original Spokes story</a>) So - that's the whole of Lothian PLUS access. There was a mini campaign on here about the (then) <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=10555&page=2#post-120366">new signs at the Canonmills Tesco</a>. That store also has the notorious/useless <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14403#post-182761">red 'designer' wall-mounted bike 'facility'</a>. More importantly the access/priority for pedestrians/cyclists is poor. The opening of Rodney Street Tunnel didn't lead to any improvements. There remains the muddy desire line through the 'hedge'. I've put photos on here before, but now plan to take some more of a slightly wider area to show the problem/opportunity. Are there any other stores 'on' cyclepaths where access is as bad/worse? Tulyar on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-184910 Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:08:08 +0000 Tulyar 184910@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ PS also take the bike in to Maplins 2 main Glasgow stores, Crockatts (hardware - better than a hike out to B&Q) Screwfix/Tool Station (including trailer). But of course one has to remember that like all those who know they have 'arrived' the efficient customer does not waste their time going to the shop but instead has their shopping delivered. A Brompton equipped family I know in Derby, who have never owned a car, swear by the facility to order almost all the bulky weekly consumables, and diy materials, for free delivery and have whittled this down to those providing services that guarantee a tightly set time slot. Here is surely a way that Spokes and CCE can drive a local economic revolution. Build up on the local and delivered model and introduce this with cycle-based delivery operations. A friend in N London has her family organic vegetables box delivered by cargo bike operated by the local supplier, who covers a moderate area with this service. Caveat on home deliveries <a href="http://www.cvengineer.com/resources/home_delivery_home_truths.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cvengineer.com/resources/home_delivery_home_truths.pdf</a> Might post this separately Tulyar on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-184908 Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:54:22 +0000 Tulyar 184908@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "eddie_h I don't use any stores that don't let me take the Brompton inside. In B&Q and Wickes I take bike & trailer inside and around the aisles, as it can be handy when carrying big items to check-out At Lidl, and Farmfoods I take in the bike & trailer and park it at the check-out loading shelf/area. Last visit to Aldi was only time I got hassled not to wheel the bike around the store, but to leave it by check-outs. Tesco's new store in the old Littlewoods building on Sauchiehall Street is remarkably bike sanguine compared to normal Tesco attitude. The 5p bag tax means that bringing bike and luggage/trailer in to the store I load directly from the check-out into my own bags. Sainsbury on Woodlands Road used to get most of my local supermarket calls but a nasty junior manager, who effectively assaulted a neighbour who absent mindedly walked across the petrol forecourt taking a phone call, and had an equally hostile attitude to my placing the bike at the front window, so I could see it from inside the store, effectively denied them any future business - the milk is actually cheaper at the local asian-run grocers, who also know their local customers better and thus have fresher vegetables, for sale in loose form rather than pre-packs which you cannot check without opening. neddie on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-184730 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:44:29 +0000 neddie 184730@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @arellcat I like that technique of walking into the store. Perhaps one should just walk the bike into any store that has inadequate parking & wait for the reaction? At that point you can explain politely, 'there's nowhere to park...', 'is my custom not valued because I came by bike?' SRD on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-184729 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:42:54 +0000 SRD 184729@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ no, but not all spokes members are CCE chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-184727 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:35:30 +0000 chdot 184727@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @SRD You're not suggesting that 'active' CCEers can't be Spokes members too!(?) Chug on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533&page=2#post-184726 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:32:08 +0000 Chug 184726@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ At Wickes Gorgie, the small rail round the side of the front door/porch thing works for a D-lock. I've seen the odd few bikes locked up there. But "proper" parking would be good. SRD on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184725 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:30:45 +0000 SRD 184725@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ would love to know how many of their entries are from CCE-ers. at one point they said 80ppl had responded, but since form only allows one shop per entry, I presume they meant '80 entries'. I know I put in 3 or 4, and quite a few of you seem to have as well, which I make about 20 respondents. figure 10 of them are on here? chdot on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184723 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:27:01 +0000 chdot 184723@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "If possible please complete the survey by end of March" (first post) I'd just put the DIY stores in too. Spokes can ignore if they choose to. ih on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184720 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:20:47 +0000 ih 184720@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Looks like the beginning of a survey. Spokes person! Should we use the form on this thread to survey diy stores too? Arellcat on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184718 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:17:32 +0000 Arellcat 184718@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I don't know if they still have some proper cycle racks at the other end I think those racks are still there. More amazingly I think they might have been made accessible again. Last time I cycled there with my trailer the racks were blocked by patios and fences and trolleys and gardeny stuff. Homebase at St Leonards got my business that day. Wickes at Gorgie/Murrayfield has no bike parking whatsoever You're probably supposed to park your bike at the Sainsbury's and hoof it across the road. I didn't bother, I just wheeled my bike straight into Wickes. There was little danger of skewering anyone with the chainring because I was about the only customer. neddie on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184716 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:08:07 +0000 neddie 184716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Wickes at Gorgie/Murrayfield has no bike parking whatsoever. Very poor permeability / no pedestrian access from Westfield Rd as well (and there is no need for this as it is simply blocked by a low wooden barrier / flower bed) wingpig on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184715 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:56:34 +0000 wingpig 184715@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ B&Q at Newcraighall has some nice D-lock-compatible roof-support strut things by the disabled parking bays near the exit, but as I always use them I don't know if they still have some proper cycle racks at the other end, just where the wall of the building becomes the fence of the garden/outside bit. kaputnik on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184712 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:52:27 +0000 kaputnik 184712@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ In my experience there are never any cycle parking facilities. B&Q at Hermiston Gait has good covered Sheffield stands by the door, Homebase at St. Leonards has Sheffield Stands in the open outside the door, but often used as an area to display bulk stock for sale. Homebase at Craigleith has nothing, B&Q at Powderhall has nothing except 2 tiny wheelholders (1 broken) that look like they're more meant for a dog to tie up to. Homebase at Straiton I think has nothing. Can't say I've ever cycled to B&Q at Newcraighall to test it. ih on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184710 Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:45:59 +0000 ih 184710@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Spokes could initiate a similar survey of DIY stores as well <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13059&page=3#post-184661" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13059&page=3#post-184661</a> In my experience there are never any cycle parking facilities. ih on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184544 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:10:44 +0000 ih 184544@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @Ed1 Thanks for feedback. This was a summary on my part. I went into more detail on the forms. But I stand by my assessment for Duke St Tesco. There is a strange looking 'bay' at the back which could be used to lock bikes to, but it isn't designed as a bike park, isn't signed as such, looks more like a trolley park (has a mini road hump to stop trolleys rolling out), and finally isn't very easy to use as a bike park, so Duke St gets a 'no facilities at all' from me. As for ASDA, I made the same point as you about the inconvenience when the front door closes at 8pm, but for the rest of the time it's good. kaputnik on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184539 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:55:03 +0000 kaputnik 184539@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Had a swatch at the plans to convert the empty B&Q store on Easter Road to a LiDL. Looks like they plan 3 x Sheffield stands (or similar) at 1m intervals by the front door of the shop. Ed1 on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184537 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:42:40 +0000 Ed1 184537@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Tesco Duke St - none." The Tesco superstore in Leith has bike parking in the car park as far as recall. It does not have bike parking on the duke street entry. If the criteria is a supermarket has to have bike parking at every entrance some others would fail too, ALDI in Gorgie has no bike parking at the back entry. ASDA Leith also good" ASDA Leith has no bike parking at the back in the car park. If you go at night you have to park at the front and walk all the way round. Like Tesco Leith, it does not have bike parking at both entrances. One is rated good the other no parking , why because one has a street name for one entrance? Seems an arbitrary distinction, if they named the street at the back of asda or took the name away from duke street the practicalities would still be the same-) I find Tesco duke street no parking better for chaining my bike than Asda back door no parking. ih on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184533 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:24:47 +0000 ih 184533@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Covered the area roughly north of Queensferry Road, Princes Street and Portobello Road over the last couple of days - 29 stores. Did Sainsbury's (Large: Craigleith, St Andrew Sq, Meadowbank. Locals: Stockbridge, Howe St, Bernard St) Tesco (Large: Broughton Road, Duke St. Express: Princes St, Picardy Place, Brunswick Place/Leith Walk, Gt. Junction St) Morrison's (Large: Waterfront Granton, Ferry Road, Portobello Road) Waitrose (Large: Comely Bank) ASDA (Large: Leith) LIDL (Large: Newkirkgate, West Granton Road) Scotmid (All small/medium: Boswall Parkway,Granton Road, Lindsay Road Leith, Ferry Road Leith, 2 on Leith Walk, Easter Road, Restart Road South) Conclusions on bike parking provision. Some egregiously poor examples in the big stores (Tesco Duke St - none. Tesco Broughton Road - very difficult to use. Sainsbury's Meadowbank - totally inadequate for size of store. Morrison's Portobello Road - rubbish, just butterfly wheel benders at the back. LIDL West Granton Road - 3 butterfly stands attached to trolley store). Some of the stores did quite well elsewhere (except Tesco) so they can do it. (Morrison's Waterfront - very good. Sainsbury's Craigleith and St Andrew Sq - pretty good. LIDL Newkirkgate - pretty good if a bit hidden.) ASDA Leith also good. Scotmid were all small/medium stores and apart from Boswall Road - 3 Sheffield stands, and Granton Road - 3 nasty butterfly stands, no others had any provision. urchaidh on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184138 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:57:27 +0000 urchaidh 184138@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Added Scotmid in Portobello. Arellcat on "spokes supermarket project" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14533#post-184059 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:40:34 +0000 Arellcat 184059@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Took photographs this morning of the Morrisons at Hunters Tryst and had a chat with one of the store managers. He knew of Spokes, so I pointed him towards the survey. As well as 4 Sheffield stands there are two wheelbender racks, massive triangular things that take six bikes each. They're so often used for advertising banners that I'd forgotten they were there when I did the questionnaire.