http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Ponding and other pedestrian (discouraging) problems en Wed, 13 May 2026 07:15:24 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-193228 Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:14:57 +0000 chdot 193228@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bruntsfield Place yesterday -</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vVwjTs"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3756/19640037456_a2f0333c15.jpg"></a></p> <p>Even bigger pond than upthread.</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898&amp;replies=25#post-189790" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898&amp;replies=25#post-189790</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-191959 Fri, 26 Jun 2015 20:26:33 +0000 chdot 191959@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>New drain -</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vbxj7d"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/403/19153620616_3480e053c0.jpg"></a></p> <p>(Buccleuch Street) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-191653 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:17:01 +0000 davidsonsdave 191653@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106112457/615609_full.jpg"></p> <p>"basically an admission that cars and buses are more important than people?"</p> <p>I reported flooding on the Blackhall Path through Clarence a couple of years ago when I moved to my current home. I reported it again through fixmystreet on 13 January 2014 and again in Feburary this year. Recently, the local community council-type organisation told me "2 areas of flooding have been investigated and designs are complete. The estimated timescale is 2015/2016 i.e within this financial year. However, as the council are on a cost cutting exercise and have to save 67 million pounds over the next few years it may be that not all actions will be undertaken in the near future."</p> <p>If this was happening on a road that cars and buses use, then it would have been fixed a long time ago.</p> <p><a href="https://www.fixmystreet.com/report/421866" rel="nofollow">https://www.fixmystreet.com/report/421866</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-191633 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:54:53 +0000 chdot 191633@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Can his attention be drawn to the unacceptably-lumpy-surface-on-the-new-segregated-bits thread?"</p> <p>Anyone can do that...</p> <p>(<a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11898&amp;page=6#post-191493" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11898&amp;page=6#post-191493</a>)</p> <p>I was just waiting until it was all finished - the B St. surface has already been re-done because of 'wrong sort of chips'. </p> <p>But perhaps I'm being optimistic that someone is 'checking for quality'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-191630 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:48:41 +0000 chdot 191630@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"basically an admission that cars and buses are more important than people?"</p> <p>I think there is some truth in that suggestion... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-191623 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:06:55 +0000 wingpig 191623@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very good. Can his attention be drawn to the unacceptably-lumpy-surface-on-the-new-segregated-bits thread? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-191622 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:11:44 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 191622@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The North Bridge one is a bit of an annoying response though.</p> <p>"As this location has a significant traffic volume, including numerous bus services it is difficult to provide a solution without causing major disruption to the city centre"</p> <p>So basically where there is a lot of traffic pedestrians can just sod off. It's also a place with pretty significant pedestrian volume - basically an admission that cars and buses are more important than people? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-191621 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:49:58 +0000 chdot 191621@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have received an impressively comprehensive response to this thread (via Andrew Burns). </p> <p>"</p> <p>have collated the information provided by the New Works Team, City Centre and South Neighbourhoods below. </p> <p><strong>Buccleuch Terrace and Bruntsfield Place</strong> – New Works Team<br /> The ponding issue highlighted as “…end of The Meadows… new route to the Innocent” is the same issue as that of the last location noted in the attached PDF. I can confirm that work is nearing completion to install an additional gully at this location, which should remove the water build up following the installation of the new cycle route.</p> <p>On Bruntsfield Place, and following significant resurfacing works, the contractor has been asked to investigate the sections that are currently ponding and to provide a solution. You can contact New Works Customer Care via <a href="mailto:transport.newworks@edinburgh.gov.uk">transport.newworks@edinburgh.gov.uk</a> for further updates. </p> <p><strong>North Bridge</strong><br /> As this location has a significant traffic volume, including numerous bus services it is difficult to provide a solution without causing major disruption to the city centre. The City Centre Roads Team are currently seeking a permanent solution, with a view to completing works prior to the start of The Edinburgh Festival. However, it should be noted that remedial works would require special traffic management and could conflict with other priority works. In the mean time a temporary repair will be progressed at the low point to try and lessen any water build up.</p> <p><strong>West Nicolson Street</strong><br /> This ponding was attributed to a blocked road gully. The gully was last attended on 1 April 2015 and reported as working, however and following inspection we have notified the Roads Gully Team, requesting further investigation and action as appropriate.</p> <p><strong>Leith Walk</strong><br /> The ponding issue adjacent to the Casselbank Street junction on Leith Walk has been highlighted with the contractor responsible, with a view to rectify water build up. The contractor has surveyed their works and will be submitting remedial proposals to the Council. Further information can be obtained from the City Centre Roads Team via <a href="mailto:roads.centralvip@edinburgh.gov.uk">roads.centralvip@edinburgh.gov.uk</a>.</p> <p><strong>Conference Square</strong><br /> The area is owned by this Council but is not adopted as part of the roads network. Management of the space is undertaken by Estates Services.</p> <p>The Council is aware of the ponding issue and has been working closely with Standard Life and Sheraton Hotel, who both have an interest in this location.</p> <p>The problem arises from a defective and somewhat complex drainage system beneath the Square. A jointly commissioned survey and some clearance works have been undertaken. From this survey, consultants have advised of a solution which will involve a significant re-design of the drainage network.</p> <p>The Council is now examining the arrangements required to proceed, and is engaging further with affected proprietors to progress the necessary works.</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-190037 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 20:55:49 +0000 Cyclingmollie 190037@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In my day we called these puddles but maybe it's good to use another term for the kind of water that can be sprayed all over you/your children by a thoughtless driver. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-190008 Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:19:05 +0000 threefromleith 190008@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"You'd have thought ensuring adequate drainage would be a basic requirement for road design, wouldn't you?"</p> <p>Of *course* not. Drivers won't get wet, so what's the problem? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189950 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 20:29:08 +0000 chdot 189950@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"You'd have thought ensuring adequate drainage would be a basic requirement for road design, wouldn't you?"</p> <p>Yes! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189937 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:28:20 +0000 PS 189937@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's astonishing, really. You'd have thought ensuring adequate drainage would be a basic requirement for road design, wouldn't you? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189936 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:18:35 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 189936@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Impressive ponding on the new crossing last night.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/tHQpJV"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/390/18195054309_59f239f68a.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/tHQpJV">Untitled</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/blackpuddinonnabike/">Anthony Robson</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189935 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 15:40:17 +0000 wingpig 189935@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Conference Square:</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/t4FjEh"><img src="https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7741/17763254364_6f7e95fe5c_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/t4FjEh">PSX_20150602_153807</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/wingpig/">wingpig</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189914 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 13:07:06 +0000 threefromleith 189914@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Foot of Leith Walk bus stop, taken yesterday before the downpours...</p> <p><a href="http://1drv.ms/1AIk53M">LW Puddling</p> <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/534/18355713596_8fc11fbac8.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189903 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:37:01 +0000 jdanielp 189903@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bristo Place onto Lothian Street yesterday evening (also a Google photo sharing experiment in case it goes wrong).</p> <p><a href="https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNcoVM1PaDPqQGgpr6hIS0jF5jB06X4DWRJhHvaQjqA115L2A6tIOtR3KAQnqO7Ow/photo/AF1QipO-HAmjZufgkKWpVmobP3AXesPPDFvS17Au1qMX?key=TXlvaWgxV01fQnpZUFVTOUw3ZERXYW5fUGdYUHpR">it went wrong (at least in terms of having an inline image show up)</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189815 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 13:11:51 +0000 threefromleith 189815@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lots of it in the new bus stop and the signalled crossing at the foot of Leith Walk, both near the Mermaid chippy.</p> <p>I suspect they're trying to turn the new bus stop into a replacement for Leith Waterworld... ;-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189801 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:19:50 +0000 chdot 189801@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good idea </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189800 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 09:32:07 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 189800@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Needs an #edinponding hashtag... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189799 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 09:23:22 +0000 chdot 189799@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is West Nicholson Street at Nicholson Street. </p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/tKWjDN"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8853/18218840856_0e7578a346.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189797 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 08:58:35 +0000 chdot 189797@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>reggie tricker (@reggietricker)<br /> 31/05/2015 20:39<br /> @CyclingEdin ponding on both sides of new Leith Walk this morning, too <a href="http://pic.twitter.com/13E3m7k4Lc" rel="nofollow">http://pic.twitter.com/13E3m7k4Lc</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189795 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 08:50:11 +0000 Chug 189795@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And those pictures show just how wide Bruntsfield Place actually is - and how little of that width is allocated to pedestrians. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189790 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 00:06:25 +0000 chdot 189790@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is 'work in progress' on Bruntsfield Place -</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/tuBWfQ"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8840/18045506060_051be77ee0.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/sQgf9u"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8815/17611442044_3d1090513a.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/tvQRXZ"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8887/18059344579_d263d2917e.jpg"></a></p> <p>Seems camber and gutters have gone out of fashion. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14898#post-189788 Sun, 31 May 2015 23:24:58 +0000 chdot 189788@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Rain is a fact of life. Edinburgh is on the east coast so doesn't get <em>that</em> much rain. </p> <p>Of course unexpected rain when you don't have your waterproofs is a pain. </p> <p>But the rain stops, the sun comes out and the water flows away helped by the hills - mostly. There will always be places waiting for maintenance; potholes that become mini-ponds and drains that become blocked. </p> <p>Though CEC has got <em>much</em> better in recent years making sure that when the drain cleaner comes round the sivers aren't covered with cars. Also attention is paid to the ones that get blocked with leaves every autumn. </p> <p>BUT there seems to be a newer problem. Bad design and/or poor contractors are causing problems often at new dropped kerbs or buildouts, and even where whole roads are resurfaced. </p> <p>This is currently at the end of The Meadows - created by the new route to the Innocent. </p> <p>I *assume* it will get sorted. </p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/sRfXzw"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8794/17622702804_beeec97655.jpg"></a></p> <p>This is at the foot of North Bridge, no doubt caused by buses (and other heavy vehicles) using the pavement to get round the corner into Princes Street. </p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/tMjEJM"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8804/18234517385_8fea6e7572.jpg"></a> </p>