http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Road deaths up/down en Tue, 19 May 2026 07:58:18 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-224457 Thu, 30 Jun 2016 22:59:47 +0000 slowcoach 224457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks Frenchy. I was thinking between 2010 and 2014 was from start of 2010 to end of 2014 ie 5 years rather than 4 years, which would have meant the average rate of increase was much lower in the last 5 years than in the previous 5 years. But as you say the average increase was similar in the last 4 years to the previous 6 years. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-224442 Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:49:22 +0000 Frenchy 224442@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>(does that mean it went up about 32% 2004-10 then 14% 2010-2014?)</p> <p>Not quite, although I think you've got the gist of it. A 46% increase between 2004-2014 and a 14% increase between 2010-2014 means there was a 28% increase between 2004-2010 (1.28*1.14=1.46).</p> <p>That means an average increase of ~4% per year from 2004-2010 and of ~3.5% per year from 2010-2014 - a steady increase. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-224431 Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:50:30 +0000 slowcoach 224431@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.transport.gov.scot/report/j436212-00.htm">Key Reported Road Casualties Scotland 2015</a><br /> includes "Department for Transport (DfT) traffic estimates, STS showed that both car and motorcycle/moped traffic volumes increased by 2% between 2010 and 2014. Over the same period cycling volumes increased by 14%. Latest Scottish data by mode covers 2014, data for 2015 will be published in August 2016 in Transport and Travel in Scotland 2015." and "There are now more cyclists on the roads which will likely impact on cycling casualty numbers with numbers. There was an increase of 46% in pedal cycle traffic in the last ten years, as shown by the DfT traffic estimates published in Scottish Transport Statistics" (does that mean it went up about 32% 2004-10 then 14% 2010-2014?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-224413 Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:19:33 +0000 chdot 224413@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>"In particular, with certain road users such as cyclists, where there has been a big increase in people cycling, fatalities are down from 2014 but continued effort is needed to tackle serious injuries."</p> <p>"</p> <p>What does that <em>mean</em>??</p> <p>Does it mean invest in segregated cycle paths <em>to reduce the chance of</em> "serious injuries"?</p> <p>Presume there is a report somewhere which says whether distance driven/cycled is up/down(?)</p> <p>And perhaps guesses about A9 speed cameras and 20mph zones. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-224411 Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:11:46 +0000 slowcoach 224411@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Latest figures out yesterday: Road deaths down in 2015, after big rise in 2014. <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36660724">BBC news</a><br /> 162 people were killed on the roads in Scotland in 2015, including 5 who were cycling. This was the lowest total number killed since at least the 1940s.<br /> For cyclists, this was better than the 8 killed in 2014, but the numbers killed have been as low in 2009 and lower in 2007.<br /> 164 people were seriously injured in reported accidents while cycling on the roads in 2015, an increase of 3% on 2014.</p> <p>(This doesn't include the much larger numbers of deaths contributed to by motoring pollution and lack of active travel or those road injuries not reported to the Police) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191346 Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:39:55 +0000 minus six 191346@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>maybe its because i'm unhinged, but when i read</p> <p><em>I am confident that these developments will have a positive impact going forward</em></p> <p>my cerebral cortex deconstructs this as</p> <p><em>We accept that hundreds of road deaths will occur annually, due to the prevailing political fatalism which obstructs strict enforcement of speed limits</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191292 Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:08:08 +0000 cb 191292@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Increased road deaths covered on Call Kaye this morning.<br /> The 10 minutes I listened to (my endurance limit for Call Kaye) had some fairly sensible views put across. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191235 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:24:54 +0000 slowcoach 191235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The amount of traffic on Scotland's roads was at its highest ever level in 2014, according to table 9 in the Stats Bulletin (Morningsider's link above).<br /> Road vehicles travelled 44,789 million km, over 99% of which would be motor vehicles. Flows had been almost 3% below the previous peak, which was in 2007. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191209 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:51:48 +0000 crowriver 191209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Pedestrian deaths have seen the biggest rise. Quite shocking really.</p> <p>Can the minister not see this is a direct result of policies which prioritise road building and driving over other modes of transport?</p> <p>IIRC new car registrations were at a record high in Scotland in 2014? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191187 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:56:11 +0000 dougal 191187@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think we need more 'Drivers Dismount' signs and chicanes that can only be navigated with a compact car. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191162 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:04:21 +0000 slowcoach 191162@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The road deaths in 2014 included eight people who were cycling.<br /> Sally <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=13743#post-169068"> listed 7 people </a>previously, and <a href="http://www.buteman.co.uk/news/community-news/cyclist-killed-in-bute-road-accident-1-3371454"> Iain Scoon</a> of Bute died on the A844 there, in April 2014. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191140 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:29:44 +0000 Chug 191140@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So take the credit when the numbers move in your favour, express disappointment and tell (other) people to take more responsibility when they move against you.</p> <p>Blue circular signs over footpaths do not significant investment make. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191139 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:03:15 +0000 PS 191139@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>That would be nice. Is it true? </em></p> <p>Not that I've noticed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191137 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:00:38 +0000 amir 191137@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"significant investment is improving safety for cyclists."</p> <p>That would be nice. Is it true? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14987#post-191136 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:54:01 +0000 Morningsider 191136@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>New figures from Transport Scotland show that road deaths increased by 16% between 2013 and 2014 (an increase from 172 to 200). The number of cyclist fatalities was down by five (a decrease from 13 to eight).</p> <p>Derek Mackay MSP (Transport Minister) has issued a statement, which says:</p> <p>"The increase in fatalities and the number of people seriously injured in road accidents in 2014 is disappointing. However it also demonstrates the need for every one of us to take responsibility when using the road network...significant investment is improving safety for cyclists."</p> <p>200 people being killed on the roads is "disappointing" !?</p> <p>Details: <a href="http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/system/files/documents/statistics/Key%20Reported%20Road%20Casualties%20Scotland%202014.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/system/files/documents/statistics/Key%20Reported%20Road%20Casualties%20Scotland%202014.pdf</a> </p>