http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: School No-Drive Areas en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:24:42 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-213758 Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:16:30 +0000 urchaidh 213758@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Police at St. Johns in Porty/Duddinsgton this morning. Reports from a neighbour that at least <strike>one</strike> four FPs were dished out.</p> <p>Related, there's a TRO out updating DYLs and waiting/loading restrictions around the schools.</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/1780/tro1522_%E2%80%93_school_streets_loading_prohibitions">TRO/15/22</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-212783 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:51:36 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 212783@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They do now @SRD - they do now! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-212781 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:40:10 +0000 SRD 212781@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Parent mail is a pain. Might be worth pointing out to school what it looked like after sending? they may have no idea? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-212780 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:25:17 +0000 urchaidh 212780@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Bikeability -<br /> Thanks, found it in &lt;sodding&gt;ParentMail&lt;/sodding&gt;.</p> <p>You're right about the alarming subject though, glad I knew what is was before seeing it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-212773 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:14:22 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 212773@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Endangered - my bad spelling, not the school's</p> <p>They guilty of frightening the life out of parents though, so I won't apologise for it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-212769 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:48:41 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 212769@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>An email from the school, unfortunately titled "Road incident involving Kirsty" (Kirsty wasn't involved.)</p> <p>it was 3:10 yesterday, a silver car. Apparently it "endagered" the policeman </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-212758 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:14:24 +0000 urchaidh 212758@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Bikeability - where did you here about this, got any more details? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-212755 Tue, 23 Feb 2016 14:54:55 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 212755@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Police are now seeking assistance in identifying a motorist who had entered Hamilton Drive illegally yesterday, then "sped" off when officers approached.</p> <p>Hopefully their search will be fruitful. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-201542 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:02:29 +0000 urchaidh 201542@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cb - my guess is there are some streets that shouldn't really need to be closed under the scheme, but can only be accessed by driving through streets nearer the school that do need to closed.</p> <p>The only, or easiest, way for residents of these further away streets to be allowed a permit if for their streets to be included in the scheme.</p> <p>I'm a resident of a closed street, I'm unconvinced of the need for residents' permits. However many of my neighbours disagree, and I think there would have been strong/terminal opposition to the scheme from local residents without the permits. One neighbour reports he has to drive with one hand constantly pointing at his permit to deflect the angry looks from parents. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-201537 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:23:07 +0000 cb 201537@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>St Peter's one seems to include Falcon Lane which I'm sure has a big gate across it. Good luck driving/parking there at any time.</p> <p>Bonaly one is interesting as it effectively blocks off Torduff and Bonaly Roads (although the latter only as far as the Bonaly Burn).</p> <p>It does rather look like someone has just clicked the 'fill' tool on the map. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-201534 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:14:31 +0000 Stickman 201534@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>what proof there was that this would work</em></p> <p>So, why are you conducting this experiment? Do you have any proof it will work?</p> <p>That's why I'm conducting the experiment. </p> <p>So, why are you conducting this experiment? Do you have any proof it will work?</p> <p>That's why I'm conducting the experiment. </p> <p>So, why are you conducting this experiment? Do you have any proof it will work?</p> <p>That's why I'm conducting the experiment. </p> <p>/repeat to infinity. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-201533 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 13:07:22 +0000 Cyclingmollie 201533@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was speaking to one of the school committee members who helped introduce this in Haddington. She said the Council had raised an objection, asking what proof there was that this would work. She had countered by asking where their proof was that it wouldn't. It seems to be a success. However there are a few driving hold-outs who refuse to be stopped from using their cars and who get very stroppy when confronted by other parents. The other issue apparently is that school staff who have permits to park near the school do just that, undermining the exercise. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-201476 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:49:43 +0000 Chug 201476@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The St Peter's one takes out a well-used back entrance to Waitrose. It'll be an interesting one to enforce! (I just hope it <em>is</em> enforced after the initial hoo-haa period) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-201463 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:22:11 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 201463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This was on the One Show last night - they took in Sciennes and Colinton. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-201456 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:57:54 +0000 urchaidh 201456@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Next round of schools to get street closures: Bonaly, St Peter’s, Clermiston and Towerbank.</p> <p><a href="http://www.portobellocc.org/pccpn/2015/10/09/towerbank-school-streets-closure-order-notice-etro1545/">More information, via Portobello CC.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-200238 Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:11:54 +0000 cb 200238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/chris-thompson-walking-to-school-a-good-option-1-3896845">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/chris-thompson-walking-to-school-a-good-option-1-3896845</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-199912 Fri, 25 Sep 2015 14:43:10 +0000 acsimpson 199912@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Could this be used for the no drive areas?</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-34359046">Teachers and parents given school parking ticket powers</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=3#post-199716 Wed, 23 Sep 2015 19:28:57 +0000 crowriver 199716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can confirm there were three police officers very visibly patrolling Abbey Street this morning. Delighted that the temporary ban seems to be working well. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199673 Wed, 23 Sep 2015 13:24:25 +0000 chdot 199673@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-school-street-traffic-ban-begins-1-3895740" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-school-street-traffic-ban-begins-1-3895740</a></p> <p>(Beware, contains photo of jumping policeman!) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199656 Wed, 23 Sep 2015 12:06:12 +0000 acsimpson 199656@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was always taught that ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. I must have tuned out before the addition of "...unless you're driving a motor vehicle." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199577 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 22:08:25 +0000 threefromleith 199577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver The "didn't know" excuse is what my Dad always refers to as the 'daft laddie' ruse: "If I get caught, I'll just play the daft laddie and they'll let me off" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199576 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 21:35:50 +0000 crowriver 199576@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo, it's here:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34321010" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34321010</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199575 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 21:23:11 +0000 crowriver 199575@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Okay folks, I shall have to amend my previous report. I have been given additional information from Mrs crowriver and my son that there were in fact uniformed police officers patrolling Abbey Street today and issuing warnings to errant drivers who "forgot" or "didn't know" (how hard is it to read a huge sign with flashing lights on it?) that there would be an £80 fine next time.</p> <p>So a very good start! :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199574 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 21:06:46 +0000 gembo 199574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@morningsider, also on the BBC news website </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199572 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:53:47 +0000 Morningsider 199572@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Report about this on Reporting Scotland this evening, including great footage of a motorist parked outside a school (Sciennes?) getting pelters from two cycling parents. </p> <p>Obviously, they had to mention the "inconvenience" for businesses and residents. Also, the odd one that enforcement would be difficult once the police went away. The implication being you just cant't trust motorists to obey the law, or improve safety for children, without the threat of being caught by the police. I suppose that's true, but if I was representing motorists, probably not the argument I would make. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199562 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:23:34 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 199562@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The council forgot to switch on the Hamilton Drive lights this morning. The school got on to them and they were working this afternoon.</p> <p>A local resident was helping school staff marshal the street, with most visitors respecting the request to about turn - albeit muttering lame excuses about not knowing or falsely claiming to be residents!</p> <p>Its a start.</p> <p>It might be easier to "police" if both Hamilton Drive and Hamilton Drive West were made one way streets. It would have meant half the number of light sets too! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199540 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 15:41:06 +0000 SRD 199540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/scotland-blog/2015/sep/22/glasgow-to-follow-edinburghs-lead-with-20mph-zones?" rel="nofollow">http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/scotland-blog/2015/sep/22/glasgow-to-follow-edinburghs-lead-with-20mph-zones?</a></p> <p>"If you really want to encourage cycling and walking then it’s important to reduce the number of cars in the area. You can affect that by doing things like restricting parking, but that has a knock-on effect on shops. There is a role for cars in the city, but there’s definitely a balance that has to be struck."</p> <p>sez who? Not alan bloody douglas. No. Gobike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199511 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:46:35 +0000 ARobComp 199511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>suppose the one advantage is that at least this now gives them a framework for enforcement. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199503 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:16:50 +0000 crowriver 199503@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Report from Mrs crowriver is that there were a number of "confused" parents who apparently "didn't know" the restrictions were starting today. Aye right!</p> <p>Walking buses in operation from four different points surrounding the school, and my children joined one. However they, and the others in that particular "bus" normally walk to school anyway.</p> <p>We shall see what transpires in the conning days and weeks. I do wonder how long it will take before enforcement becomes essential... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15032&page=2#post-199491 Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:26:39 +0000 cb 199491@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Alan Douglas perhaps?"</p> <p>That's the chap. According to that other thread he's @AlanDougla5 and according to Twitter he was live on Radio Scotland from Turkey. </p>