http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: BUG (Bicycle User Group) does your workplace have one? en Sat, 18 Apr 2026 05:03:22 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-244251 Wed, 08 Mar 2017 20:02:34 +0000 HankChief 244251@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@greenroofer &amp; I ran a very busy stall at our office this lunchtime and got another pile of sign ups to our BUG.</p> <p>No surprise that the topic of safe routes was again top of most people's concerns.</p> <p>Spokes maps and Cyclestreets website were well used in explaining the options. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236397 Mon, 14 Nov 2016 10:08:54 +0000 fimm 236397@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>When I first got on to Strava, I only recorded and uploaded my sports cycling, using a GPS watch/training device. I think that it is only for the past couple of years that I have put (nearly) all of my cycling on Strava, using my phone to record the utility stuff. I did this because I was curious to see just how much cycling I did in total. I wonder if I am unusual in this - there has been a bit of a drive to get "utility cyclists" onto Strava in order to add their data to the dataset.</p> <p>On topic; my workplace doesn't have a BUG. I think that existing cyclists are pretty well catered for (issues with lockers aside) so I would see it more as a group for promoting cycling to the office and I don't feel I want to do that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236314 Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:40:13 +0000 Greenroofer 236314@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Frenchy - the Gogarburn census data presented at the Spokes meeting shows a ~50% increase in actual bikes on site between 2013 and 2016. @HC's Strava data above shows a slightly steeper increase. I'll leave you to do the maths (for which you now have sufficient information) to work out the contribution from the increased use of Strava. :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236297 Sat, 12 Nov 2016 10:26:26 +0000 HankChief 236297@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@greenroofer- This feels like the start of an AA meeting... My name is HankChief and I work at Gogarburn...</p> <p>@IWRATS - you'll be pleased to know that <strike>naked</strike> changing room teleconferencing has stopped. (Any delays in my kiddie drop off routine meant I had to dial into a daily 8.30am meeting whilst whilst drying my hair. My colleagues could dial in from their cars &lt;sigh&gt;)</p> <p>@Frenchy - that will definitely be a contributing factor but no idea of the size. The strava data is obviously flawed because of not being a complete dataset.</p> <p>What surprised me was the absolute numbers given we also have lots using the A8 as well (path/road &amp; East/West). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236294 Sat, 12 Nov 2016 09:26:57 +0000 Frenchy 236294@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@HankChief - any idea how much of that growth is more people cycling, and how much is more people using Strava? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236291 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 23:51:48 +0000 I were right about that saddle 236291@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Hankchief</p> <p><em>there would be snippets of conversations in the changing rooms </em></p> <p>Cut short due to naked teleconferencing I'll be bound.</p> <p>@Greenroofer</p> <p><em>I work at Gogarburn...</em></p> <p>Still grateful for your reminder of CCE's existence in 2014. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236290 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 23:44:18 +0000 Greenroofer 236290@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@HC - the shape of the Strava data almost exactly mirrors the shape of the data I presented at the Spokes meeting yesterday* for the number of bikes at Gogarburn each day, with a gentle underlying increasing trend and a super-imposed seasonal cycle. The two spikes in numbers will be related to the RBS Cycle Challenge event each summer.</p> <p>*Yes, if you hadn't worked it out for yourself by now, I work at Gogarburn... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236286 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 23:08:52 +0000 chdot 236286@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Of course this is good for people thinking about cycling -</p> <p><a href="http://cyclefridays.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://cyclefridays.wordpress.com</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236284 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 22:28:42 +0000 HankChief 236284@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Using strava data (which isn't everyone), thought I see what we could find.</p> <p>150 different strava 'Athletes' using GSR in the summer months.</p> <p>(If anyone is a data junky and on Strava, check out this <a href="http://www.jonathanokeeffe.com/strava/segmentDetails.php">site</a> giving you analysis of any given segment)</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/N9ofS9"><img src="https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5569/30287285764_ab5870fca9_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/N9ofS9">GSR on Strava</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91842878@N03/">HankChief</a>, on Flickr</p> <p>The heatmap also shows the heavy use if the bypass underpass.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/N9ohBG"><img src="https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5801/30287291654_719ce8487e.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/N9ohBG">Strava Heatmap</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/91842878@N03/">HankChief</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236233 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:52:23 +0000 HankChief 236233@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"What is"</em></p> <p>I would say that the BUG is fundamentally about connecting people.</p> <p>Before it existed there would be snippets of conversations in the changing rooms as timings meant you never really got past the grumble stage into 'let's do something' stage and so not unsurprisingly nothing really changed.</p> <p>One problem at the time were a slippery polished concrete floor in the basement.</p> <p>Having somewhere to chat meant we could see that the numbers falling in the basement were bigger than anyone amongst us realised and allowed us to go to Facilities Mgmt to press for a solution.</p> <p>The short time people spend changing meant that whilst someone might complain about having a fall at 8.15am they will be oblivious to the fact that someone else had the same experience at 8.45am (it wasn't as bad as that but you get my point)</p> <p>The BUG allowed us to pull all this together and combine experiences with people you haven't met.</p> <p>It's now of a size that I don't know most of the people who post and I couldn't tell you if they are the same people I chat to when changing, but it doesn't matter. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236226 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:08:03 +0000 paddyirish 236226@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Ah yes, though I'm sure some will drive/bus to the gym. "</p> <p>Indeed, and a large number of "10000 steppers". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236225 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:05:08 +0000 chdot 236225@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"as opposed to an unhealthy 90%"</p> <p>Ah yes, though I'm sure some will drive/bus to the gym. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236224 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:02:09 +0000 paddyirish 236224@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>as opposed to an unhealthy 90% who drive/use public transport... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236223 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:00:28 +0000 Rosie 236223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Stickman - I imagine Spokes will publish the talk on its website in the next day or two. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236222 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:59:57 +0000 chdot 236222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"A healthy 10%"</p> <p>Says someone who might work for a company dealing with big numbers. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236220 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:56:41 +0000 paddyirish 236220@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Fimm</p> <p>Now 600 members (100 initially) out of 4500 staff - that will soon be 6000.</p> <p>A healthy 10%. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236219 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:56:15 +0000 chdot 236219@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, what <em>has</em> it done for US? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236217 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:47:43 +0000 HankChief 236217@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@paddyirish </p> <p>How could you forget</p> <p>- Getting Gogar Station Road resurfaced with bike lanes and slower traffic speeds</p> <p>- met with Murray Estates to minimise impact of the Garden District on cyclists safety </p> <p>- and don't forget the bad things it has allegedly done according to one resident of Roseburn. I'm not going to quote them.</p> <p>Apart from that what has it ever done for us... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236215 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:45:02 +0000 chdot 236215@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"What is"</p> <p>Must read -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&amp;replies=32#post-236211" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&amp;replies=32#post-236211</a></p> <p>Relies on energetic, dedicated people.</p> <p>Whether that is 'sustainable' - or if it even matters that it keeps going for ever - is another issue.</p> <p>I get the impression that many have started and become moribund due to lack of members/success.</p> <p>I think in Edinburgh, these days, many more could take off. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236214 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:40:16 +0000 chdot 236214@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"What is a BUG (not its meaning) and what is it designed to do, other than provide a platform for cyclists to chat online?"</p> <p>Think good/bad answer is that there is no 'essential' format.</p> <p>They can be/are a mix of social group, pressure group (on employer) and (clearly the Gogar one) a means of encouraging/supporting new cyclists.</p> <p>There seem to be (simplistically) two sorts - set up by companies/organisations (for good or controlling reasons) and those set up by cycling employees (often wanting showers or better bike parking). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034&page=2#post-236213 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:39:59 +0000 fimm 236213@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>500!!! Out of how many people?<br /> (Appreciate that not all of them are going to be rolling along on their spiked tyres in a blizzard in January, but that's a very impressive figure.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236212 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:38:48 +0000 Stickman 236212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Greenroofer was excellent last night, really inspiring. Love his graphs.</em></p> <p>Are these available anywhere? Having thoughts about trying to kickstart the BUG at my workplace </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236211 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:35:32 +0000 paddyirish 236211@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Apart from </p> <p>-promoting cycling within the group so that cycling is a valued method of commuting which is factored into all transport plans.<br /> -Arranging business mileage for those employees who use their bikes to cycle between meetings<br /> -improving cyclists facilities- more lockers, parking drying facilities and now new changing rooms.<br /> -Persuading a further 500 new cyclists to sign up and commute to work.<br /> -Providing a fleet of Next bikes which are used to get around group properties in West Edinburgh.<br /> -Providing someone to buddy nervous first timers to Gogar<br /> -Arranging regular Bike Maintenance visits<br /> -and providing a medium for cyclists to ask for advice and help</p> <p>what has the Gogar BUG ever done for us? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236210 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:30:27 +0000 Rosie 236210@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Greenroofer was excellent last night, really inspiring. Love his graphs. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236207 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:22:01 +0000 SRD 236207@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"What is a BUG (not its meaning) and what is it designed to do, other than provide a platform for cyclists to chat online?"</p> <p>Ours doesn't have a chat function. mainly employer uses it to tell us stuff like whern bike dr visits or training available to us. but they also send out info about POP when I ask them to, which is handy. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236204 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:17:44 +0000 chdot 236204@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Table 10a: Reason for changing mode of transport for travel to work, 2012-2015</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.transport.gov.scot/report/j450918-09.htm#Table10" rel="nofollow">http://www.transport.gov.scot/report/j450918-09.htm#Table10</a></p> <p>50% of people change mode because they change job or move house <em>each year</em>!</p> <p>SO lots of opportunities for people to <em>think</em> - and lots of opportunities for governments employers/organisations to help with the thinking. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236198 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:09:27 +0000 DaveC 236198@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We had a chat to a rep from Cycling Scotland this week, and the BUG came up. I don't think I have ever used one, and wonder what the fuss is about?</p> <p>What is a BUG (not its meaning) and what is it designed to do, other than provide a platform for cyclists to chat online? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236196 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:05:08 +0000 chdot 236196@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The Gogar RBS group sounds like an example to learn from."</p> <p>Indeed.</p> <p>I believe they have all sorts of stats too.</p> <p>Wonder how much the improvement of Gogar Station Rd (made possible by RBSBug people) has helped? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-236192 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 11:48:58 +0000 Stickman 236192@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bumping this thread following the glowing feedback on @Greenroofer's presentation on the RBS BUG. </p> <p>I work for a rival banking group in Edinburgh. There is a BUG but it is a group-wide one covering multiple locations across the UK and as such doesn't really have any focus. The Gogar RBS group sounds like an example to learn from. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15034#post-209743 Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:19:31 +0000 Claire 209743@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@SRD Thanks for trying to pop something up at least, that's very much appreciated! </p>