http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Being overtaken while turning right en Fri, 22 May 2026 04:31:44 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192377 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 20:22:05 +0000 gembo 192377@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>For last year I have been turning. Left at this T junction. At school drop off time. Mad traffic snarled I have the whole lane to myself all the way down ravelston dykes as not enough room to pass with Mary erskines traffic tail to tail. Very pleasing</p> <p>Turning right I rarely go that way. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192363 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:47:25 +0000 jamesire 192363@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I should add that the lorry driver was turning right too. So we ended up doing the turn sort of parallel to each other (this is when he nearly hit me).</p> <p>I think some others are referring to being overtaken by vehicles going straight on (also bad). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192362 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:24:11 +0000 sallyhinch 192362@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd hope that road position would suggest that you were still turning right, but I guess to some drivers bikes are one big mixed message ... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192360 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:55:08 +0000 jdanielp 192360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@sallyhinch I was assuming the same, but does that mean that a cyclist sends mixed messages to other road users if they have to stop their indication at any point due to braking and steering, e.g. to avoid a pothole etc? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192358 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 14:00:00 +0000 Cyclingmollie 192358@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not that often. Heading out of Longniddry the speed limit goes from 30 to 40 to NSLA in about a quarter of a mile. Well inside the 40 zone I checked behind before indicating to turn right. One car approaching but a long way off. I indicated, pulled out and entered the right turn filter. In the same time, the driver had accelerated, pulled out to give me a huge overtake and was now doing an emergency brake across the hatched zone behind me. Sometimes drivers can try to give cyclists too wide a pass. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192351 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 12:53:02 +0000 Roibeard 192351@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Dougal - I'm not sure, clearly I'm unaware of it, and others have been too polite to bring it up in conversation!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192345 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 11:26:59 +0000 dougal 192345@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Roibeard, how old were you when you discovered this affliction? You know, leaving limbs hanging at right angles and forgetting about them? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192344 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 11:25:04 +0000 Roibeard 192344@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been overtaken by a taxi driver, who then turned into the same road as I was aiming for.</p> <p>His defense when questioned by police, "I thought he had forgotten to cancel his indication"!?!</p> <p>So, even if you do leave your arm out for as long as possible, it's still no guarantee.</p> <p>Recently, though, it's been people trying to overtake as we're both turning right, that is, I turn right into the left hand lane, they turn right into the oncoming lane parallel to me. They then attempt to box me in at the parked car a couple of lengths from the junction.</p> <p>I'm tempted to just give up, and simply turn into that road on the wrong side of the road, just like a driver...</p> <p>But even in a car, I prefer to perform the turn properly, as oncoming traffic is only visible that way - those swooping into the wrong side could easily meet someone coming!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192338 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:51:31 +0000 wingpig 192338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Overtaken by something also making a right-turn: Frequently overtaken whilst turning right going from West Approach-Lothian Road or Gilmore Place-Bruntsfield Place or Restalrig Road South (Smokey Brae)-London Road (Wolseley Place) at Jock's Lodge. More rare on the narrower St Leonard's Street-Salisbury Road turn but the odd keen driver has attempted it.<br /> Overtaken by something going straight on and ignoring the right-turn/road positioning/signal: Willowbrae Road turning into Duddingston Row. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192337 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:48:52 +0000 jamesire 192337@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I got an apologetic email from the company saying they had a meeting this morning 'to reiterate this point to all of our drivers and to remind them of their responsibilities as drivers for our Company'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192336 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:41:46 +0000 minus six 192336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>that's the place where Boyfriend and I stopped at the red light</em></p> <p>i admire your ongoing stubbornness in not switching term to "partner" instead of boyfriend.</p> <p>its an inevitable process, though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192335 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:39:23 +0000 sallyhinch 192335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Put their arm down? I would keep my 'right indicator' on for as long as practical when turning right, consistent with using the brakes, steering etc.</p> <p>I have noticed that when I'm in a car which is turning right, I get very nervous when I see another car that looks as if it might overtake because I forget that drivers can actually see cars... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192333 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:23:16 +0000 jdanielp 192333@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Out of interest, how is a cyclist expected to 'cancel' a signal? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192331 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:19:07 +0000 fimm 192331@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Highway Code rule 167<br /> <em>DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example</p> <p>approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road<br /> ...<br /> when a road user is indicating right, even if you believe the signal should have been cancelled. Do not take a risk; wait for the signal to be cancelled</em></p> <p>"Do not" means it is advisory rather than a legal requirement.</p> <p>(If that's the junction I think it is, that's the place where Boyfriend and I stopped at the red light in a car to go straight on and were then (once we were stationary) overtaken by a driver who ran the red to turn right...) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15070#post-192274 Wed, 01 Jul 2015 17:21:26 +0000 jamesire 192274@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Earlier today I was overtaken by an Midlothian Skip Hire lorry whilst turning right from the traffic lights at Stewart's Melville onto Ravelston Dykes. It scared the living daylights out of me. </p> <p>I'm quite frequently overtaken at this turning - usually I turn a blind eye to it; although it's hardly very polite, there is usually enough room. </p> <p>I'm curious to know others' experiences of being overtaken whilst turning right... does anyone know the legality of it?</p> <p>Cheers! </p>