http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: UK Labour Leadership election en Sun, 31 May 2026 23:11:32 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=3#post-199351 Sat, 19 Sep 2015 12:32:10 +0000 SRD 199351@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>*like* </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=3#post-199349 Sat, 19 Sep 2015 12:26:22 +0000 sallyhinch 199349@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Vice in search of a Mao-style bike <a href="http://www.vice.com/read/chairman-mao-corbyn-bike-475" rel="nofollow">http://www.vice.com/read/chairman-mao-corbyn-bike-475</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=3#post-198985 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:47:38 +0000 slowcoach 198985@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/five-bikes-jeremy-corbyn-should-ride-191546">Cycling Weekly</a> says Jeremy has 2 bikes and prefers his 21-gear Trek 721 Multitrack. A Mao-like bike would surely be an original single speed Flying Pigeon. But post-Mao Flying Pigeon now also make multi-geared bikes in various styles ... and have a picture of David Cameron on their <a href="http://www.flying-pigeon.cn/index.aspx">website</a>! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198968 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:21:44 +0000 crowriver 198968@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presumably there is a saddlebag for carrying a copy of the Little Red Book? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198934 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:23:06 +0000 chdot 198934@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>@RedScareBot: Sputnik momentum RT @higginsdavidw .@ReutersJamie @thetimes awfully socialist things those Maocycles <a href="http://t.co/lTfKPIH3oJ" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/lTfKPIH3oJ</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198933 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:13:14 +0000 chdot 198933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>@ReutersJamie: The @thetimes reliably informs us that Jeremy Corbyn rides a "Chairman Mao-style bicycle." Also known as a "bicycle". <a href="http://t.co/E3NRHpdcaw" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/E3NRHpdcaw</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198914 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:10:33 +0000 wee folding bike 198914@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I guess ministers used to leave their bike with one of the bobbies on the beat but Gategate might have soured that relationship slightly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198908 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:17:16 +0000 gembo 198908@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not singing God Save the Queen, gotta love that man. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198889 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:06:17 +0000 cb 198889@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I expect him to (want to) resign in 2019"</p> <p>Probably more likely than this:</p> <p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/14/prime-minister-jeremy-corbyn-the-first-100-days">http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/14/prime-minister-jeremy-corbyn-the-first-100-days</a></p> <p>"Friday, 1pm: Corbyn, hotfoot from the palace, enters Downing Street pushing his bicycle. By now, he has acquired a police escort that, with difficulty, carves a path through the crowds to the door of No 10. “The dark days of austerity are at an end,” Corbyn says, before chaining his bicycle to the railings and disappearing inside."</p> <p>What do cycling cabinet members do with their bikes (not lock them to the railings presumably)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198863 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:05:29 +0000 Min 198863@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>@Min - entertaining interjection by Dennis Skinner here reminding Emily Maitlis she doesn't work for Murdoch...</em></p> <p>Ha, good for him! Seemed such a benign interview too until she stabs him in the back at the end. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198792 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 09:42:21 +0000 chdot 198792@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I expect him to (want to) resign in 2019 - unless of course by then the voters seem to think he could make a better PM than the alternatives (both in the newold LP and Cameron's replacement).</p> <p>If you want to joust with the bookies, might be safer to select a slate of well known LP members who will leave the party before 2020! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198791 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 09:37:42 +0000 algo 198791@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Min - entertaining interjection by Dennis Skinner here reminding Emily Maitlis she doesn't work for Murdoch...</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHGDDMAP5qU" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHGDDMAP5qU</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198789 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 09:31:04 +0000 Min 198789@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A shame he is not Murdoch Approved. He will be hounded by the press until forced to resign. (prediction) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198556 Sat, 12 Sep 2015 12:37:18 +0000 chdot 198556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> 3 Jun 2006 - The last time I did a bike ride of any length was on the People's bike ride for jobs in 1985. </p> <p>...</p> <p>I couldn’t make Wednesbury to West Bromwich these days….</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2006/06/sheilas-wheelers" rel="nofollow">http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2006/06/sheilas-wheelers</a></p> <p>(That's 3.8 miles!)</p> <p>Ben Bradshaw and Christian Wolmar do cycle. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198555 Sat, 12 Sep 2015 12:27:25 +0000 chdot 198555@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Inc TW?</p> <p>"</p> <p>@GrahamAllenMP: Cycling for a Living Wage in 1985,two would be MP's at Raleigh Bicycles,Nottm,Graham Allen and Tom Watson-unchanged! </p> <p><a href="http://t.co/WsTFx8lQLp" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/WsTFx8lQLp</a></p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-198554 Sat, 12 Sep 2015 11:46:25 +0000 Billytheshoe 198554@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cyclists' clean sweep for Scotland, London and UK! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-196019 Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:41:20 +0000 chdot 196019@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bicycle rider wins -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14002#post-196018" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14002#post-196018</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194252 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:31:23 +0000 stiltskin 194252@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a funny article in today's Guardian about a Twitter account set up to take the mickey out of Corbyn's apparent lack of a sense of humour. It features the joke:<br /> "Knock knock"<br /> "Who's there?"<br /> "Jeremy Corbyn"<br /> "Jeremy Corbyn who?"<br /> "Jeremy Corbyn" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194249 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:09:05 +0000 chdot 194249@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>This is an important decision for the party, the country and the planet, so please get involved! </p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://sera.org.uk/2015/07/08/how-to-take-part-in-the-labour-leadership-elections/" rel="nofollow">http://sera.org.uk/2015/07/08/how-to-take-part-in-the-labour-leadership-elections/</a></p> <p>There used be "SERA Scotland" involving people including Sarah Boyack, but doesn't seem to be anymore. </p> <p><a href="http://sera.org.uk/tag/scotland/" rel="nofollow">http://sera.org.uk/tag/scotland/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194174 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:53:15 +0000 gembo 194174@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, he is there when the candle is burning, but in a sort of miraculous (almost as if it is all made up way) he is still there even if you blow the damn candle out, I don't want nobody coming over to my table I got nothin to talk to anybody about (St. Joni).</p> <p>If you do not eat all your dinner it could be put in an envelope and posted to Africa? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194173 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:24:20 +0000 wee folding bike 194173@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I thought JC was only there if the sanctuary candle was lit.</p> <p>It's possible that I may have assumed bi-directional logic when being told that the sanctuary candle was a symbol of his presence. I took this to mean that if the candle is off then he's not there and no longer watching you all the time in a spooky way.</p> <p>Similarly I may have misunderstood the thing about eating your dinner because if you don't people in Africa will starve. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194172 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:12:23 +0000 gembo 194172@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@weefoldingbike - you are not supposed to mention Jesus Christ in the JC game. He is always there, unless you mention him. Julian clary, Justin Chimberlake, John CooperClarke, Jane Campion, Jean Cocteau, Jimmy Choo etc </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194171 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:09:20 +0000 wee folding bike 194171@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It might have been mentioned before but this page from 2012 has the breakdown of UK elections with and without Scotland.</p> <p><a href="http://wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-doesnt-need-scotland/" rel="nofollow">http://wingsoverscotland.com/why-labour-doesnt-need-scotland/</a></p> <p>2015 wouldn't have been any different, we could have returned 58 Labour MPs and the Tory majority would have been the same. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194170 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:06:39 +0000 wee folding bike 194170@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And Jesus Christ too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194167 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:36:18 +0000 gembo 194167@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Jeremy Corbyn also has the same initials as Johnny cash, John Cleese, Julian cope good but I suppose Jeremy Clarkson and jilly cooper. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194091 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:55:21 +0000 chdot 194091@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"@chdot, not sure George Kerevan is quite right if he thinks labour lost 4 million votes to UKIP? Nor that UKIP were anti-austerity??"</p> <p>Well it's impossible to say who (if anyone) people who voted UKIP would have chosen instead if there was no UKIP. </p> <p>It is clearly the case that UKIP got votes that otherwise could have gone to Lab and Con. </p> <p>UKIP manages to be different things to different people (in some ways so does the SNP - that is NOT saying that 'the SNP is like UKIP'!). UKIP MPs might well have voted against the welfare cuts. </p> <p>It's easy to characterise UKIP as 'right wing party' (which essentially it is) and therefore presume it is to the right of the Tories, but the left-right 'spectrum' is no longer that simple/linear. </p> <p>The Labour Party (at least the Westminster bit) wants to be 'the centre ground' and (if possible) just just left of the Conservatives. </p> <p>This is because the Lab MPs assume that they won't get elected otherwise. That may be true, but that is because of the electoral system more than how 'right wing' the voters may or may not have become. </p> <p>In Scotland the SNP has (mostly) lost the Tartan Tories tag and is now seen by some as a 'left wing party' - and is getting elected. </p> <p>Consequently there are those who say 'Scottish voters are different' and others who assert that the 'British electorate' doesn't diverge sharply at the Border. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194089 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:37:01 +0000 gembo 194089@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There was talk in the pub on saturday of english marginal seats on the borders going to tories because of dfear of SNP. I could not quite follow that. What was accurate was that the midlands where labour should have won stayed tory.</p> <p>@weefoldingbike - I think you are right that scotland voted consistently for labour all my adult life and got Tory until TB broke out and Then if Scotland had decided to vote Tory or Green or SNP TB landslides would still have prevailed.</p> <p>THere is a bloc of about 1 million voters in Scotland (I am giving SNP a core vote of 415,000) who shifted from Tory to labour post WW2 and now from Labour to SNP. This is enough (when you add the core to the bloc =37%) to give you all the seats. It was what Labour had from 1970s to 1990s. SNP has it now. Opposition fragmented etc. However, not enough in a binary contest. Holyrood 2016 will be interestig. Voting SNP, SNP will get no more SNP MSPs elected (or very few) as all actual seats will be SNP. The list seats will go to the opther parties. Greens clearly hopeful. Some say you should vote Green SNP rather than SNP Green but I say I haVE NO IDEA. </p> <p>Meanwhile as a vegetarian cyclist I am definitely voting for JC. He is going to win in the first round. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194085 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:52:23 +0000 wee folding bike 194085@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Scottish votes rarely make any difference in UK elections and don't turn Tory majorities in to Labour majorities so Labour in the rest of the UK could get by without us.</p> <p>bdellar, was your second thought on the Lord Sewel thing, "How did he find a flat in Dolphin Sq for £1000 pcm?"? I was right past there a couple of times about a fortnight ago. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194084 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:22:17 +0000 gembo 194084@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, not sure George Kerevan is quite right if he thinks labour lost 4 million votes to UKIP? Nor that UKIP were anti-austerity??</p> <p>UKIP votes had they all gone to labour might have changed things in non labour seats.</p> <p>Anyway facts never enter into any of this.</p> <p>What is logical is that if there was a deal between labour and SNP that led to independence then labour would be back where it is now? Of course there could be an agreement between labour and SNP that led to another referendum that still didn't vote for independence? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15184&page=2#post-194083 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:04:50 +0000 bdellar 194083@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some of us know exactly how to get from Pimlico to Vauxhall! But I went to school in Pimlico, and lived in Vauxhall and Stockwell... </p>