http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Roadworks displaying the primacy of the motor car en Fri, 22 May 2026 04:01:36 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194642 Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:38:33 +0000 acsimpson 194642@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In Dunfermline at the moment on the aptly named Carnegie <strong>Drive</strong> one half of a two stage crossing is out of action. No reason given but a Fife Council sign stuck over the button saying "Crossing not in use". Of course with plenty people getting to the middle of the road before finding the sign the crossing was very much in use. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194282 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 20:02:43 +0000 Bigjack 194282@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's something I've noticed almost every time TTLs are put up where there's a Pelican crossing nearby- The pedestrian crossing lights are invariably switched off and pedestrians are left to fend for themselves and left to the mercy/whims of motorists. (You know the thing , motorists tend to leave gaps or wave other motorists through at obstructions or when traffic is tailed back, but don't as a rule do the same for cyclists.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194279 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 18:35:59 +0000 Fountainbridge 194279@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The strange thing is there doesn't need to be any temporary lights at this junction. The hole in the road is only about 1m x 2m. </p> <p>Block off the right turn lane heading west, eastbound traffic can use that lane.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vGQTf1"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3736/19496543864_5c1f37a2e8.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vGQTf1">150729115427IMG_2536</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/130059894@N04/">Paul Fountain</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194275 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 18:18:06 +0000 gembo 194275@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very bad tonight, all the way from Cowgate though I Sussed that the four way had gone red just as I arrived so I could become a pedestrian at the actual junction. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194272 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:52:47 +0000 Fountainbridge 194272@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I passed through yesterday and again today as a pedestrian. The traffic flows across the junction were slow, and the gadgies manually running the lights were creating decent spaces for pedestrians to cross the road.</p> <p>My main concern was the number of signs placed on the pavement.</p> <p>I don't think the requirement for pedestrian crossings at roadworks lasting more than 7 days has been added to the roadworks manual - although it is approved. Well done to Chas Booth (?) for pushing this.</p> <p>This road was resurfaced a month or two ago. As with other areas in Edinburgh the resurfacing seems to generate more faults - like Castlehill.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vGZdMF"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/334/19498170513_07fe75053d.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vGZdMF">150729115701IMG_2540</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/130059894@N04/">Paul Fountain</a>, on Flickr</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vGZcvx"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/429/19498166213_4eff95e8bd.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/vGZcvx">150729115412IMG_2535</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/130059894@N04/">Paul Fountain</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194267 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 15:57:10 +0000 chdot 194267@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>EdinburghTravelNews (@edintravel)<br /> 29/07/2015 15:47<br /> @fountainbridge @CyclingEdin @AndrewDBurns @LAHinds @CityCentreLeith Clancy Docwra told us they planned to fill hole today &amp; resurface Thurs</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194246 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:04:14 +0000 559 194246@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@WFB, saw that sign just ignored also </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194231 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:02:07 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 194231@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hope they're finished before Saturday as I need to help my daughter move in and will need to use the car! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194228 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:46:34 +0000 Chug 194228@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Isn't ToB using LL street "backwards"? Probably not using chdot's favourite piece of unused infrastructure tho'... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194218 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:52:57 +0000 chdot 194218@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>CityCentreLeith Team (@CityCentreLeith)<br /> 29/07/2015 10:13<br /> @CyclingEdin @Edinburgh_CC @AndrewDBurns @LAHinds Hi these are Socttish Power emergency works, will pass this to our Roads team ^E</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194209 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:18:07 +0000 wee folding bike 194209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Last week there were roadworks in University Ave, Glasgow, with a "Cyclist Dismount" sign beside the temporary traffic lights.</p> <p>I ignored it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194201 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:00:49 +0000 kaputnik 194201@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They were re-laying the surface of one lane on London Road at Meadowbank (between the shopping centre and McDonalds) for the last 2 weeks. Work took place only during the day and not at all on Saturdays. During working hours, a contraflow was in place and - apart from when the surface was removed for relaying - the contraflow and lights were packed away at the day end, returning the road to normality.</p> <p>But. </p> <p>The pedestrian crossing has been out for the duration of the works. The works are now complete, bar line painting, and have been in the vicinity of the crossing for about a week. The crossing is still out.</p> <p>It remains to be seen if I get a response to my tweet and fixmystreet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194194 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:46:37 +0000 chdot 194194@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Mmm Lady Lawson Street. </p> <p>That'll be the one where they have been 'planning' to put in a contra-flow cycle lane past the Art College for over 30 years.</p> <p>Didn't manage to do a TRO to coincide with the recent complete resurfacing.</p> <p>So maybe by 2050?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194193 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:45:12 +0000 gembo 194193@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Monday night the tailback was down cowgate to dynamic earth. Not so bad last night. This morning stuck whilst the whole fourways system went through its cycle. Pedestrians seemed able to cross. Obvioulsy, not without risk. Looks like cabling judgiong by all the holes. not the surface, which is nice. Apparently in Germany, so the story goes, once you dig the hole, all the different utilities comply with the one timescale. But this type of organisation is not possible in UK. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194190 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:38:46 +0000 cb 194190@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is the thread that discussed the criteria for putting in temporary ped crossings:</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11457">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11457</a></p> <p>(Supposed to be all works that last over a week and are 'busy' enough. I love the idea that endangering pedestrians for up to six days is somehow ok but after that we should help them out) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194189 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:31:15 +0000 wingpig 194189@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What are they doing there again? Presumably someone found something urgent to address, now that the nice new surface they put in a couple of months back has come to the end of the maximum period for which any smooth, flat surface can so remain. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15200#post-194188 Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:19:31 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 194188@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are currently four way lights on the crossroads of Lady Lawson Street and West Port, and they are causing traffic 'chaos', with cars scattered everywhere, big queues, even saw someone last night mounting a central reservation to turn (some distance from the crossroads) and escape the melee.</p> <p>But while drivers caught in it may / will complain about the works (how anyone thinks anything gets done or maintained without some disruption I'll never know) you've got to love how pedestrians are treated, and it demonstrates the true hierarchy. Because while it would undoubtedly make the works quicker and easier to carry out simply by shutting the route to traffic, they bring in traffic management systems to ensure at least some remaining flow.</p> <p>The pedestrians however? Well at all four roads there are traffic lights with pedestrian crossings. All four have been turned off, and all four have signs that simply say 'Crossing Not In Use'. Seen them loads before, and it really irritates me. No alternative temporary lit crossing, no guidance as to where might be safe to cross, just 'ye cannae cross here' (or 'if ye dae on yer ane heid be it'.</p> <p>(and anyway, wasn't that Festival roadworks amnesty thing supposed to have kicked in, and that's why tools have been down on the Meadows to Innocent route?) </p>