http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "20mph limits get green light for Scots trunk roads" en Sun, 31 May 2026 23:10:49 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199212 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:38:57 +0000 chdot 199212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5715/21483183352_70c20d910e.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199119 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:35:15 +0000 cc 199119@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@cb bravo, I was just about to post that.</p> <p>See also David's update of the post - (a) Langholm's geography is no excuse; (b) he's making a general point.</p> <p><a href="http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2012/09/langholm-example-of-how-british.html">the original blog post about Langholm</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199116 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:19:02 +0000 cb 199116@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8545">Langholm</a> discussed two years ago. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199114 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:10:20 +0000 kaputnik 199114@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>For the record, there's already a £27million scheme to built a 4.8km bypass around Maybole... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199112 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:05:53 +0000 wingpig 199112@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kirknewton gets a bit squeezy too. That narrow bit in Maybole is never going to be fun when a bus and an HGV want to use it at the same time. 20mph is a good start as things will hopefully be careering along less speedily when they notice that they're going to have to slow down or stop and shuffle through. Could traffic lights which only switch on when large vehicles approach, so that buses/HGVs have to go through one direction at a time but narrower things can go concurrently but slowly? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199105 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 09:46:01 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 199105@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In fairness, given the amount of through traffic from the Irish Sea routes, and especially the number of HGVs, Maybole probably should have a bypass. If I lived in Maybole, I'd want a bypass, on safety and air quality grounds. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199075 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:30:01 +0000 crowriver 199075@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have a vision.</p> <p>Every village its own by-pass. Every town its own dual carriageway. Scotland must not rest until there are high speed trunk roads in every corner of the land, the better to whisk drivers to garden centres, supermarchés, theme parks and other vitally important destinations for the nation's economy. </p> <p>We shall build a utopia for motorists. If you're not a motorist, GET OUT OF THE WAY! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199072 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:18:45 +0000 Stickman 199072@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Absolutely. All possible steps must be taken to avoid driver frustration, the curse of our age. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199071 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:09:29 +0000 crowriver 199071@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo, what's good for Loch Lomond has to be good for Oban, yeah? Beggar the scenery, wildlife, etc. folk need to OVERTAKE in order to complete their journeys within a reasonable timeframe! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199067 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 07:14:55 +0000 gembo 199067@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Build a big pontoon out into the sea, flatten Lismore Island who stays there anyway and back in at the caravan site about three miles north? Will only cost trillions and will reduce accidents and there is no evidence it will reduce trade in Oban itself. May need cantilever section for the ferries to get under? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199062 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 23:40:58 +0000 kaputnik 199062@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>By-passes don't stop people driving through town centres, even if they re-route a portion of traffic around. The IAM is basically saying "we want bypasses AND no speed reduction".</p> <p>If anyone can explain how you can bypass Oban given its geography, I'm open to suggestions. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199059 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 23:27:18 +0000 crowriver 199059@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The Institute of Advanced Motorists said by-passes rather than lower speed limits were the answer."</p> <p>Does Keith "By-passes for all" Brown know this? How about Derek "Cycle paths are a matter for local authorities" Mackay? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15451#post-199056 Wed, 16 Sep 2015 22:18:32 +0000 chdot 199056@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>20MPH speed limits will be introduced on main routes in five towns for the first time as part of a new road safety experiment, the Scottish Government’s Transport Scotland agency has announced.</p> <p>The first, on the A77 at Maybole in Ayrshire, starts on Monday, with Largs, Biggar, Langholm and Oban to follow.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/20mph-limits-get-green-light-for-scots-trunk-roads-1-3888210" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/20mph-limits-get-green-light-for-scots-trunk-roads-1-3888210</a> </p>