http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Totally mental traffic tonight en Tue, 19 May 2026 03:27:56 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680&page=2#post-203019 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:22:01 +0000 ARobComp 203019@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Reading through that chapter gives me goosebumps. What could have been.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680&page=2#post-202952 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:51:27 +0000 Arellcat 202952@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's a great piece.</p> <p><em>"In the highest scale of human values, the preservation of Edinburgh's environment is more important than the speed of one's journey to work."</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680&page=2#post-202934 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:29:28 +0000 chdot 202934@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>" 'Curious Scotland' by George Rosie has an entertaining chapter about Edinburgh's close brush with urban motorways."</p> <p>Yes -</p> <p><a href="https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KWIsYhmpnp4C&amp;pg=PA237&amp;lpg=PA237&amp;ots=FH6SG1wqto&amp;focus=viewport&amp;output=html_text" rel="nofollow">https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KWIsYhmpnp4C&amp;pg=PA237&amp;lpg=PA237&amp;ots=FH6SG1wqto&amp;focus=viewport&amp;output=html_text</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680&page=2#post-202928 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:09:16 +0000 chdot 202928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ac you have PM </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680&page=2#post-202927 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:57:50 +0000 Arellcat 202927@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Was in the window of Morningside Oxfam on Sunday. Not there now.</em></p> <p>It's been sold. I would've bought it otherwise. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680&page=2#post-202916 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:15:20 +0000 cb 202916@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's a shame that Lost Edinburgh is on FriendFace and not on some <a href="http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/">forum</a> like what Glasgow has.</p> <p>Oh well, CCE covers it off pretty well. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202915 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:14:34 +0000 chdot 202915@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah yes that previous symbol of a 'proper city', an opera house. </p> <p>More recently it's been a tram (system). </p> <p>One day it will be widespread pedestrianisation and decent cycle infrastructure... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202908 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:04:29 +0000 kaputnik 202908@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All part of the grand plan for that area including pulling down Poole's Synod cinema for a never-built Scottish opera house? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202906 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:00:11 +0000 chdot 202906@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hmm</p> <p>Must admit I had never thought about what had been there before. </p> <p>Presume land was 'owned' by Edinburgh Corporation. </p> <p>Queen Street Gardens private - jointly owned by people who value as gardens. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202904 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:54:58 +0000 acsimpson 202904@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lost Edinburgh posted this picture on facebook today:</p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/lostedinburgh/photos/a.681358185255201.1073741826.162922127098812/999462786778071/?type=3&amp;theater">https://www.facebook.com/lostedinburgh/photos/a.681358185255201.1073741826.162922127098812/999462786778071/?type=3&amp;theater</a></p> <p>I think we're lucky this didn't happen to Princess Street and Queen Street gardens too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202896 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:56:22 +0000 cb 202896@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>At the old Broughton High School the windows on one side of the building were installed with no ability for opening as it was expected that there would be a motorway outside before long.<br /> At least, that's what I've heard anyway.</p> <p>"the ever brilliant braid hills road"</p> <p>I only realised quite recently that it's actually Braid Hills Drive. It's only "Road" at the western end. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202878 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:19:50 +0000 chdot 202878@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Edinburgh’s never-built inner ring road</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.gcat.org.uk/blog/?p=682" rel="nofollow">http://www.gcat.org.uk/blog/?p=682</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202875 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:08:25 +0000 Arellcat 202875@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's one I made earlier:</p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zqDz6Gfa_PjA.kNpbsipiUIx4" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zqDz6Gfa_PjA.kNpbsipiUIx4</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202869 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:18:17 +0000 chdot 202869@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Civic Survey &amp; Plan For The City And Royal Burgh Of Edinburgh (1949)</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=107695262&amp;postcount=11" rel="nofollow">http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=107695262&amp;postcount=11</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202868 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:06:45 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 202868@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Every time I see those inner ring road plans, I have a little internal giggle while wondering which of today's sacred cows will come to be ridiculed in a similar fashion in 50 years' time.</p> <p>6-lane expressway instead of Rocheid Path? - why, no problem. At least they planned a tunnel instead of levelling Donaldson's - clearly not complete Philistines... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202867 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:58:38 +0000 crowriver 202867@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>After the installation of my benevolent dictatorship, I'll only sanction the inner ring road if it is built entirely underground, using tunnels. That goes for the "other proposed motorways" too. Oh, remove all the junctions, except for one entrance/exit to the west. Motor vehicles banned from city centre streets topside between 7am and 10pm. No ventilation for the tunnels allowed: we don't want all those fumes belching out into the city, thanks Then all the single occupant cars can drive merrily round and round in circles at whatever speed they like until the single occupants get bored, tired, or succumb to carbon monoxide poisoning and crash into one another's vehicles.</p> <p>As this will all be happening underground the rest of us can walk, cycle or utilise public transport in the peaceful fresh air topside. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202864 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:28:02 +0000 Fountainbridge 202864@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Time to resurrect this</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/AhcsWm"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/701/22499430896_86eca333bf_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/AhcsWm">ringroadmap-1024x649</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/130059894@N04/">Paul Fountain</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202862 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:18:00 +0000 I were right about that saddle 202862@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo</p> <p>"the ever brilliant braid hills road"</p> <p>Get thee an off-road capable bike and you can access the even better trail network around Braid Hill.</p> <p>Do not be tempted to descend into the Hermitage à la Simon Parker as you'd have too much fun. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202861 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:13:17 +0000 chdot 202861@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Is that because you bought it?"</p> <p>Actually </p> <p>.<br /> .<br /> .<br /> .<br /> .<br /> .<br /> .<br /> .<br /> .</p> <p>No </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202860 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:08:02 +0000 gembo 202860@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Great cycle along the ever brilliant braid hills road into the last of the light and then along green bank up through firrhill round to colinton and only hit the totally mental traffic tailing back from the hole the Scottish gas networks dug last week and have left with temp traffic light. Such a long tail back for a small hole but then bikes can get up the side. So we can get through.<br /> firrhill </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202857 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:24:42 +0000 Arellcat 202857@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Not there now.</em></p> <p>Is that because you bought it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202856 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:23:06 +0000 crowriver 202856@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@paulmilne, I'm well aware of it thanks.</p> <p>Glasgow did not escape such plans, hence the entire city centre exceeds safe pollution levels... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202855 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:15:26 +0000 Charlethepar 202855@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>'Curious Scotland' by George Rosie has an entertaining chapter about Edinburgh's close brush with urban motorways. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202840 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:21:46 +0000 chdot 202840@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was in the window of Morningside Oxfam on Sunday. Not there now. </p> <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/761/22290515240_f70253dc7c.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202835 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:08:21 +0000 paulmilne 202835@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@crowriver, Google "Abercrombie Plan Edinburgh 1949" for what were real post-war plans to do just that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202822 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:06:45 +0000 Arellcat 202822@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Totally mental traffic this morning, too. I have never, ever seen vehicles queued all the way up Oxgangs Road North, from Colinton Mains to Redford Road. It was so bad I changed my ride to work and went around the other side of Craiglockhart.</p> <p>Then the traffic down Wester Hailes Road was massively queued as well, because of so many vehicles using the Calder Road - mainly heading out of town or cutting across towards Makro. Traffic management on the Calder Road is pretty poor because of the way the roundabouts consistently disadvantage cross-traffic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202803 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 11:28:28 +0000 crowriver 202803@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No, what Edinburgh needs to do is to get rid of all these medieval and Victorian streets, and build six lane motorways through the centre of the city, with spiral off-ramps. and flyovers to avoid at-grade junctions. Replace all these old slum dwellings with futuristic high rise tower blocks, palaces of modern living, to free up space for parking.</p> <p>/1960s town planner logic </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202794 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:38:05 +0000 Stickman 202794@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Imagine being a traffic modeller and being asked to come up with why the city is in gridlock? You mean apart from. There are too many cars within the city?<br /> </em></p> <p>Get rid of the bus lanes, roundabouts, bike lanes, pedestrian crossings, most traffic signals and increase the speed limit. Then cars will be able to travel at their natural speed and we'll attain the nirvana of <strong>free-flowing traffic. </strong></p> <p>/EEN commenter logic </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202792 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:25:45 +0000 fimm 202792@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The traffic has been queuing on the Gorgie Road back as far as the 5-way junction for a few weeks. Yesterday we had a new variation, where the queue was on Ardmillan Terrace.</p> <p>Fortunately it is easy to filter on Gorgie Road, because of the bike lanes. And I think that the bad traffic has meant that fewer people are parking opposite the shops where the chippy is. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15680#post-202788 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 08:50:06 +0000 wingpig 202788@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I left the motor traffic to it last night and NEPNned home. I was getting tired in the late afternoon so didn't fancy being near grumpy tired drivers in the dusk, though there was still one who tried to sneak around to my right on the Haymarket track-crossing. </p>