http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Bus shelter put up on route with no services" en Fri, 22 May 2026 01:41:10 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-209079 Wed, 20 Jan 2016 15:53:53 +0000 acsimpson 209079@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@kaputnik, I wonder if they are even aware of the irony of installing a light emitting device whose primary aim is to distract people potentially causing crashes in front of the home of an organisation whose primary function was to install light emitting devices designed primarily to prevent crashes.</p> <p>Along with the stand alone screens there are also at least three applications to replace bus stop poles with full advert shelters. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208947 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:11:02 +0000 Arellcat 208947@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>They are selling the beauty and heritage of Edinburgh to the highest bidder.</em></p> <p>Edinburgh's planners and leaders lost all sense of pride a long time ago.</p> <p>People visit Edinburgh <em>because</em> it's Edinburgh, the one you see on postcards, all spires and pretty stonework, not advertising hoardings and News24 because it has bankrupted itself and turned to prostitution of its best assets. Has anyone been to <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Piccadilly+Circus,+London+W1D+7ET/@51.5100924,-0.13462,3a,75y,348.23h,107.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sFqKj1oQlThZ7UBtFcQ7VDA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DFqKj1oQlThZ7UBtFcQ7VDA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D99.746574%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x487604d3ff201fc1:0xf08adf0cfb3eb2fe?hl=en">Picadilly Circus</a> recently? Great jangling jelly babies, what an awful sight. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208937 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 13:11:55 +0000 paulmilne 208937@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Time for some guerrilla fly-posting? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208899 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:21:39 +0000 neddie 208899@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe we could enlist TEL and BUS to re-appropriate some of the billboards for their artwork(?)</p> <p>See: <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15874" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15874</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208898 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:19:30 +0000 neddie 208898@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They are selling the beauty and heritage of Edinburgh to the highest bidder.</p> <p>I was once proud to take visitors around Edinburgh, knowing that they would never see a billboard. American visitors were often gobsmacked and pleasantly refreshed to see no massive billboards littering the place.</p> <p>And now, the more billboards there are, the cheaper the advertising becomes, so the more the companies will need to advertise to stand out and so the more the billboards will proliferate.</p> <p>A complete spiral of destruction. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208885 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:46:50 +0000 kaputnik 208885@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>This one is proposed on George Street:</p> <p>16/00036/ADV </em></p> <p>Have objected to this too. Not just because it halves the available pavement width, but it's also slap bang in front of a Category A listed Georgian building (NLB headquarters at 82-84 George Street) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208856 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:32:26 +0000 I were right about that saddle 208856@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"community information panel"? On George Street? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208852 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:17:19 +0000 crowriver 208852@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, certain bus services were routed through George Street before the tram. The 10, 11, 12, 16, 42, and 100 airport service all appear to still travel along George Street. There are quite a few buses that cross George Street at Frederick and Hanover Street but don't travel along the street itself.</p> <p>Whether that justifies SIX bus shelters is another matter. If you look at <a href="http://lothianbuses.com/assets/files/City-Centre-151004.pdf">Lothian Buses route map</a>, only one short section of George Street still carries buses: between Frederick Street and Hanover Street in both directions, and eastward from Hanover Street to St Andrew Square. So any bus shelters outwith those sections would be unnecessary, except of course to carry advertising for JCDecaux's clients.</p> <p>Maybe a wee map showing all the locations along George Street will be required to get a feel for how many shelters will be "surplus to requirements" from a transport standpoint? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208851 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:04:32 +0000 Fountainbridge 208851@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was there bus stops on George Street before the tram works? </p> <p>Stops were installed when buses were diverted off Princes Street, but I don't remember them at any other time. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208847 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:20:08 +0000 crowriver 208847@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have objected to the excessive "freestanding digital display" eyesores clogging up the pavement for no discernible reason other than to line the pockets of JCDexaux. All three of them. Where it's replacing an existing bus stop, I've not bothered to object. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208844 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:56:29 +0000 Fountainbridge 208844@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How many bus routes stop on George Street? There's a pile of apps for tv style bus shelters down both sides, as well as other advertising only panels elsewhere</p> <p><a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J7KXEWLYT00" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J7KXEWLYT00</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JADNEWLYZ00" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JADNEWLYZ00</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J6VGEWLYQ00" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J6VGEWLYQ00</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JB3GEWLZ400" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JB3GEWLZ400</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JD84EWLZF00" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JD84EWLZF00</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JEMTEWLZJ00" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JEMTEWLZJ00</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J65TEWLYN00" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J65TEWLYN00</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JB3ZEWLZ600" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0JB3ZEWLZ600</a><br /> <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J1Z4EWLYF00" rel="nofollow">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=O0J1Z4EWLYF00</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208833 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:52:13 +0000 crowriver 208833@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Objection duly submitted to that video obstruction on George Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208832 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:43:44 +0000 amir 208832@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm really quite miffed about the shelters being the wrong way around and not providing splash protection from the passing traffic. Cyclingmollie will well remember the downside of this in Fife (soaked head to toe) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208831 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:59:05 +0000 urchaidh 208831@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not content with installing unnecessary bus shelters to get a bit of extra billboard space, JCDecaux are proposing to block the pavements giant LED TVs showing adverts. This one is proposed on George Street:</p> <p><a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&amp;keyVal=O0J6VGEWLYQ00">16/00036/ADV</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208711 Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:14:51 +0000 Blueth 208711@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As I understand it the primary function of these new shelters is not to protect potential bus passengers (as can be seen from the design flaws previously highlighted and that some of them "go the wrong way" in relation to queueing correctly from the actual stop) but to display adverts and thus provide revenue for Decaux. </p> <p>Decaux will still be able to charge advertisers for using this stop. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208668 Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:57:09 +0000 gembo 208668@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>tHe bus shelter in woolfords south Lanarkshire was installed by Strathclyde passenger transport executive. (I remember as a student moving through to Edinburgh from the west in 1987 and being gobsmacked to see an orange bus hurtling around the corner in Carnwath. Woolfords is less than twenty miles from Edinburgh, Strathclyde was very very big authority) It last saw a bus in 1996 but in that time I have often stopped for a Jeely piece when out cycling. Braw for keeping you out of the wind. However, in. Breaking news the locals are now running a community bus running twice a day I think probably to the malls of Livingston. So build e shelters and then twenty years later the bus will arrive.? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15933#post-208667 Sat, 16 Jan 2016 16:03:16 +0000 chdot 208667@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>The baffling move, part of the multi-million-pound roll-out of new shelters by council contractor JCDecaux, has been branded a “complete waste of money” and left community leaders scratching their heads.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/bus-shelter-put-up-on-route-with-no-services-1-4002786" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/bus-shelter-put-up-on-route-with-no-services-1-4002786</a> </p>