http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Calton Road closed (or not) en Mon, 20 Apr 2026 00:03:48 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-251237 Fri, 26 May 2017 19:43:33 +0000 gembo 251237@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Cycled through those cones a few times. You might have to go on the pavement if traffic coming at you. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-251235 Fri, 26 May 2017 19:07:35 +0000 crowriver 251235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've stopped going that way since the works started. Prefer Regent Road/Waterloo Place now that the good weather is here: more scenic, less pollution.</p> <p>May have to go that way though once the Leith Street diversion is fully in place: I imagine Regent Road will be hellish for around a year from September... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-251231 Fri, 26 May 2017 18:26:13 +0000 chdot 251231@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Surprised no-one has mentioned this -</p> <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4199/34495278410_329a429243.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238217 Mon, 05 Dec 2016 15:55:45 +0000 jonty 238217@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Google almost invariably claims it's quicker to make progress south through the city via Calton Road and Holyrood Park than via the Bridges. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238216 Mon, 05 Dec 2016 15:48:26 +0000 crowriver 238216@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From personal anecdata I can confirm that the rat running traffic on Calton Road very rarely has anything to do with Waverley station. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238209 Mon, 05 Dec 2016 14:46:40 +0000 jonty 238209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As has been much discussed, the old taxi rank is to turn into two new platforms next year. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238204 Mon, 05 Dec 2016 14:26:53 +0000 dougal 238204@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There are no new shopping areas in the station to my knowledge. The former taxi rank is just empty road space now. It's more pedestrian-friendly because there are no lorries and coaches parked in the middle of the concourse. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238157 Mon, 05 Dec 2016 10:58:38 +0000 Ed1 238157@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Part of the trouble may be the station has been turned in to a shopping centre, so a lack of space of taxis. There is a choice of 6 different places to get a sandwich when one British rail cheese sandwich would have done in the past. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238151 Mon, 05 Dec 2016 10:23:59 +0000 neddie 238151@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wouldn't mind the 1800 spaces so much if they actually removed 1800 on-street spaces and converted them to pedestrian space.</p> <p>#DreamOn </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238137 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 23:13:00 +0000 chdot 238137@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Just what the area needs"</p> <p>Apparently, sadly. </p> <p>Not even (just) about the extra business taxes that will roll in - might take a while to cover the various government subsidies that make this development happen. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238131 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 22:10:55 +0000 Klaxon 238131@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just what the area needs, 1800 car drivers (600/hour?) trying to get in and out in the run up to Christmas</p> <p>Refer to Newcraighall Rd from now to Christmas for obvious Leith St consequences. Can be stationary one in one out all the way back to Niddrie. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238130 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 21:57:05 +0000 crowriver 238130@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The new entrance and exit to the 1,800 space car park will be on the opposite side."</p> <p>Which will turn Calton Road into even more of a rat run, therefore the traffic signals will be even more essential. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238098 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 15:59:46 +0000 Fountainbridge 238098@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A complete new set of traffic lights will be installed there as part of St James works. The new entrance and exit to the 1,800 space car park will be on the opposite side.</p> <p>The St james plans are a real pain to wade through so no picture from me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238096 Sun, 04 Dec 2016 14:06:33 +0000 crowriver 238096@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Klaxon, that would do the job nicely. Any chance you could send that to someone at the roads dept. of the council? :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238080 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:17:59 +0000 Klaxon 238080@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Something like this Crowriver?</p> <p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/nucumBK.png"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238075 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 19:09:10 +0000 crowriver 238075@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What they really need to do is put a signalised pedestrian crossing at the top of Calton Road. Also redesign the junction and make the left turn a sharper angle, so vehicles have to slow down. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-238065 Sat, 03 Dec 2016 17:54:46 +0000 Fountainbridge 238065@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Council could have curtailed the rat run a bit by making New Street one way the other way. Given the location of the council HQ car park I wonder if that had something to do with it.</p> <p>Very surprised there hasn't been an accident at Leith Street / Calton Road junction yet. Presume there'll be one by end of St JAmes works. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-237931 Thu, 01 Dec 2016 16:52:25 +0000 crowriver 237931@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>WARNING: Skip lorries, waste disposal trucks and assorted building trade HGVs are now using Calton road as a rat run. They are going full tilt too. My it fun as a pedestrian, dodging certain death by inches on the <strike>motorway slip road</strike> junction with Leith Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-233307 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 12:35:48 +0000 crowriver 233307@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Klaxon, if the car had not been going so fast I would have been sorely tempted to whack the wing mirror, believe me. Then again the last thing I need on the way to work is a UKIP-style punch up with some irate driver. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-233290 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 10:33:03 +0000 jonty 233290@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is New Street still shut at the top?</p> <p>Calton Road/Market Street/Lawnmarket/Johnston Terrace is an interesting E-&gt;W (but not W-&gt;E) rat run which quite effectively bypasses the often congested Queen Street, Chambers Street and Cowgate corridors and spits you straight out at the WAR or Morrison Street. Lawnmarket should probably be pedestrianised (or a total car ban implemented on JT) to cut it off. </p> <p>N-S options still exist via the Royal Mile and North Bridge, or George IV bridge, so a closure at the Calton Road end is probably wise too.</p> <p>At least the plans are for Calton Road to be signalised - hopefully, like the Omni parking junction used (unusally) to do, it can be configured to maximise green man time across the side road. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-233289 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 10:29:12 +0000 Klaxon 233289@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Refer to my post in <em>bad driving</em> yesterday and some dots can be joined </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-233287 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 10:22:07 +0000 PS 233287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Continuous pavement with single file entry would sort it out, but no doubt there would be tears that this would impede traffic flow up to Princes St.</p> <p>Ped and cycle provision really needs sorted on that stretch given how it's going to be shopping mecca of eastern Scotland. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-233281 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 09:54:12 +0000 Frenchy 233281@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Where's the council HQ again, remind me?</em></p> <p>East Market St/New St.</p> <p>Anyone going from Calton Rd to New Street has to either go into Waverley car park, or turn down East Market St. I'd guess most of these people are therefore going to council HQ or Waverley car park. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-233279 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 09:43:06 +0000 kaputnik 233279@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Really I can't see what the justification is for keeping Calton Road as a through route. </em></p> <p>Where's the council HQ again, remind me?</p> <p>Surely it could be closed (except for emergency vehicles and may be even taxis) at the point of the station, so it becomes a cul de sac drop off. The section between New Street and the station becomes a de facto car park, a small concession to the bloc motoristique. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-233276 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 09:36:23 +0000 crowriver 233276@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well over the past few weeks the rat running community of single occupant drivers has clearly realised that Calton Road is open.</p> <p>I've been gathering anecdata on the onward destinations of these drivers, and my impression is, at least in the mornings, that 95% or more are just heading through Calton Road to turn right under the bridge at New Street, and then on somewhere else. It's a tiny number who drop off at the rear entrance to Waverley, absolutely tiny. </p> <p>Quite often drivers are still doing 30mph or more when they turn from Leith Street onto Calton Road, despite it being clearly marked as a 20mph zone. There seems to be an assumption that pedestrians (or cyclists) should just get out of the way of these self-important types. One particularly charming individual this morning felt he was within his rights to beep at me as I crossed at the top of Calton Road. This is despite the fact that he only started indicating after I started to cross (I always shoulder check before stepping out) and I was 3/4 of the way across when the horn sounded. Well I told him where to go and emphasised this with an insulting hand gesture.</p> <p>Really I can't see what the justification is for keeping Calton Road as a through route. It's almost exclusively used as a rat run, and many of the drivers travelling on the road are behaving recklessly. It is intimidating for pedestrians, who by the way always far outnumber drivers at any time I've been walking (or cycling) there. Can they not just close the road somewhere to make it access only? Or is the Council HQ car park too much of a priority? At the very least they need to widen the pavements at the top of Calton Road, and signalise the junction with Leith Street. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-227922 Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:23:05 +0000 crowriver 227922@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Not very pedestrian friendly the way vehicles are approaching in the Calton road lane then drive up Leith Street. Never know which way the traffic is going."</p> <p>So, business as usual then. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-227917 Sun, 21 Aug 2016 09:51:17 +0000 Fountainbridge 227917@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All open, all barriers removed, no sign of railing on top of wall though.</p> <p>Not very pedestrian friendly the way vehicles are approaching in the Calton road lane then drive up Leith Street. Never know which way the traffic is going.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/Kr331i"><img src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7503/28506650393_dbfdf12bd2_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/Kr331i">160820095937IMG_6475</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/130059894@N04/">Paul fae Fountainbridge</a>, on Flickr</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/Kr31Jk"><img src="https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8088/28506646103_a621f4774f_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/Kr31Jk">160820100443IMG_6483</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/130059894@N04/">Paul fae Fountainbridge</a>, on Flickr<br /> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/KWojsE"><img src="https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8406/28838786370_284b08f5bc_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/KWojsE">160820100820IMG_6489</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/130059894@N04/">Paul fae Fountainbridge</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=6#post-227848 Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:00:48 +0000 deckard112 227848@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was fully open with no barriers present when I went through last night (thanks for info btw) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=5#post-227782 Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:02:11 +0000 Klaxon 227782@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>All the barriers at Calton Rd level are now gone, only the recently added sign on the lamp post 'Calton Rd closed' remains. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=15984&page=5#post-227781 Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:53:22 +0000 gembo 227781@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well open now there was fen a fringe show at the wall hen I passed by the other day. </p>