http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: What are YOUR policing priorities for Edinburgh?? en Fri, 22 May 2026 01:10:17 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210648 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 22:31:11 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 210648@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My sister's partner is a parking attendant and he gets mighty pissed off at the police refusing to do anything about dangerous illegal parking. He told me there are countless occasions where he has spoken to a policeman to be met with total apathy. I have also encountered this with Sainsburys parking on ASLs.</p> <p>In Edinburgh if you park on a yellow and safely in rush hour it is almost certain you will get a ticket as the wardens will get you. When it becomes a police matter such as dangerous parking there is almost zero chance of being punished. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210624 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 17:15:47 +0000 acsimpson 210624@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A simple change to the law allowing police forces to recover costs from fixed penalty notices could make a big difference. I happened to be sitting in the car outside Sciennes this afternoon due to an earlier than expected discharge from Sick Kids. Along with innumerable private vehicles driving straight past the gates the wall of shame included Parcel Force (delivering to the school itself), Edinburgh Roofing Services and more taxis than you could count on one hand. All of which should know better. An enforcement camera or police officer would pay for themselves in an afternoon.</p> <p>Crowriver I suspect you are right although perhaps we have just become a Diligaf society. Then again perhaps we are no longer a society. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210616 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 16:54:45 +0000 crowriver 210616@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"what are the police for? Catching bad people? Stopping crime by their existence, enforcing the Highway Code? "</p> <p>Allegedly recorded crime is down every year for the past decade. So either:</p> <p>- Crime really is down<br /> - Certain crimes are being disregarded/tolerated</p> <p>If the latter, what are the chances most of these tolerated crimes are related to motor vehicles? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210613 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 16:43:28 +0000 gembo 210613@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tricky, what are the police for? Catching bad people? Stopping crime by their existence, enforcing the Highway Code? They can't do everything. Presumed liability is way forward for better driver behaviour. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210607 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:16:21 +0000 minus six 210607@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>first car free on red lights</em></p> <p>I reckon its first two drivers get a free on red now, if the second driver is right up the rear of the first, like the old roundabout convoy ploy.</p> <p>The third car driver passing on red either gives it the "aw c'mon, they both did it" shrug, or adopts the steely stare straight ahead <em>this didn't happen and will soon be over anyway</em> kinda vibe</p> <p>Hang them from lamp posts as a warning to others </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210595 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 14:54:11 +0000 559 210595@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>1. Enforce the traffic laws<br /> 2. Enforce the traffic laws<br /> 3. Enforce the traffic laws </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210577 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 13:42:24 +0000 crowriver 210577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"a symptom of a post socialist society "</p> <p>Remind me: when was the UK a socialist society again?</p> <p>In the modern era it has nearly always been Laissez Faire capitalist as far as I can see (notwithstanding the "command economy" legacy from WW2). Now we are a neoliberal capitalist society as far as evidence suggests. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210567 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 13:19:55 +0000 acsimpson 210567@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That's one of a number I was thinking.</p> <p><em>Try enforcing the traffic <strike>ban outside primary schools </strike></em>laws<em> for a start. <strike>Six months in and parents</strike> </em>Drivers<em> have realised there's no enforcement<strike> on Abbey Street</strike>, and thus blatantly flout the <strike>ban</strike></em>law <em>with impunity whenever they feel like it....</em>.</p> <p>eg first car free on red lights, cars encroaching into ASL zone (technically red light jumping again), driving with frosted windows, mobile usage, speeding and my personal bug bear as a pram user/toddler supervisor pavement parking. etc</p> <p>I could go on but I think we all agree that drivers are getting bolder in their willingness to flout the law. I suspect however that this is more a symptom of a post socialist society where everyone begins to only care about themselves or their immediate group and sees what boundaries can be pushed elsewhere.</p> <p>/Rant </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210565 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 13:15:45 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 210565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Try enforcing all traffic laws which are there to decrease risk to vulnerable road users. Oh and actually prosecute instead of 'educating'<br /> eg parking on zig zags, corners, ASL areas<br /> speeding<br /> red light jumping<br /> dangerous overtakes<br /> failing to give way</p> <p>The police are good at saying protection of vulnerable road users are priority but their actions don't match the words </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210559 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 12:47:35 +0000 crowriver 210559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Try enforcing the traffic ban outside primary schools for a start. Six months in and parents have realised there's no enforcement on Abbey Street, and thus blatantly flout the ban with impunity whenever they feel like it.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210547 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 11:45:03 +0000 acsimpson 210547@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It would be nice if they told us how he is planning of finding out our priorities.<br /> Would be nice if they spent some time enforcing traffic laws. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16005#post-210540 Tue, 02 Feb 2016 11:20:12 +0000 chdot 210540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>EDINBURGH’S new police commander has pledged his priorities will be dictated by the people of the city.</p> <p>Chief Superintendent Kenny MacDonald takes the helm in the Capital almost three years into the life of Police Scotland, the single force whose formation sparked claims of “Glasgowfication” with policing methods from the old Strathclyde force implemented across the country.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/kenny-macdonald-edinburgh-will-decide-policing-priorities-1-4017493" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/kenny-macdonald-edinburgh-will-decide-policing-priorities-1-4017493</a> </p>