http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Edinburgh Police - Bike Safety Events (March 2016) en Mon, 20 Apr 2026 08:18:05 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214324 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:27:21 +0000 jdanielp 214324@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm not sure why I bothered taking the PoP leaflets over. The Police stand was more populated with other leaflets and cycling-related freebies by the time I went back a little before they were packing up but there was no obvious sign that any PoP leaflets had been taken, although I suppose it would be worth it even if one one person took one away. The weather didn't exactly help. I also learnt that the Bike Bothy is closing today due to the running out of Transition Heriot-Watt's funding (which I did know about but I thought it would be going until the end of March at least) and that there are no firm plans going forward. Oriam, the compant that is responsible for the new Sports Performance Centre that is being built on the campus may take it over, but nothing is clear yet... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214288 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:19:59 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 214288@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Instead of patronising nonsense like this why don't the police just do a day of vigorous enforcement instead (with fines and points instead of a chat). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214282 Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:22:46 +0000 jdanielp 214282@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just had a quick chat with the Police at the Heriot-Watt event who kindly allowed me to leave a pile of PoP flyers on their stand. I'll pop back in the afternoon to collect the remainders and maybe have a go in the drivers' seats. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214239 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 23:52:48 +0000 rbrtwtmn 214239@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Drive Safe - by having no intention to speak to a single driver? Yeah, thanks for that EdinburghPolis"</p> <p>See:<br /> <a href="https://youtu.be/yBPlZeUg4mE" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/yBPlZeUg4mE</a></p> <p>(Not actually directed at transport issues as will be obvious, but directly relevant all the same) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214216 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:52:04 +0000 chdot 214216@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"If the mirrors are actually used, that is."</p> <p>A genuine problem. </p> <p>Always safer to assume that you've not been seen, esp if any chance of vehicle turning left. </p> <p>At red lights I'll filter past big things if there's an ASL and the lights have recently changed, otherwise I'm inclined to hang back. </p> <p>Wasn't always the case... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214213 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:42:59 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 214213@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IMV (excuse the pun), the (rearward) blind spot myth has originated from a genuine problem with rearward vision from artic HGVs once a turn has been commenced, and has since been jumped on by all manner of negligent operators and drivers. In particular, modern rigid bodies (like, ahem, buses and bin lorries, if 'Streets Ahead' happen to be looking in) with appropriately adjusted mirrors should have no excuses. If the mirrors are actually used, that is. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214212 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:42:59 +0000 wingpig 214212@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"What did?"</em></blockquote></p> <p>My countdown until Dave repeated that he'd sat in the big yellow truck and seen no blindspots. I sat in the same big yellow truck when they'd removed the big stick-on Fresnel lens on the passenger-side window and observed that there were several places a cyclist could be where you couldn't immediately tell they were there unless they waved at you, due to the curvature of the mirrors and the resultant very small area in the field of view of a driver in the driver's seat which the cyclist ended up occupying - if their movement towards and arrival into those spots had not been noted then their presence in them could be far from obvious. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214210 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:16:59 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 214210@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I went to one a few years ago expecting to be horrified at the size of the blind spots, but actually I left horrified that people can still use it as an excuse for crappy driving."</p> <p>Pretty sure that was the same one I went to. My (similar) take was that there <em>are</em> blindspots, but they are ridiculously easily removed by the appropriate placement of a couple of good mirrors. So cheap. So easy. So entirely bizarre that they're not installed on every single truck to completely remove the blindspot excuse. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214208 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:55:10 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 214208@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Drive Safe" - by having no intention to speak to a single driver?</p> <p>Yeah, thanks for that EdinburghPolis </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214207 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:43:30 +0000 Min 214207@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>What did? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214206 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:36:01 +0000 wingpig 214206@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nope. Stopped at 4. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214205 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:27:57 +0000 condor2378 214205@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>3? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214202 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:17:53 +0000 wingpig 214202@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>4. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214200 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:53:01 +0000 jdanielp 214200@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Good idea. I've put details of this event up on various of the cycling news channels at Heriot-Watt so heading along to it for a while with some of the PoP flyers would be sensible. I'll be postering around the campus by the end of the month as well... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214198 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:51:56 +0000 Dave 214198@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>You'll even have the chance to jump in to a Lothian Bus or a Council waste vehicle and see the blind spots in large vehicles for yourself!</em></p> <p>I highly recommend this to anyone who wants to see for themselves that there's pretty much no blind spot at all on these vehicles. </p> <p>I went to one a few years ago expecting to be horrified at the size of the blind spots, but actually I left horrified that people can still use it as an excuse for crappy driving. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214197 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:47:23 +0000 sallyhinch 214197@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If anyone wanted to show up and distribute a few POP flyers then they'd be giving cycling safety a real boost ... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214192 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:12:01 +0000 wingpig 214192@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"At the events, there will be -</p> <p>· bike security marking by local officers"</em></blockquote></p> <p>As these are at university campuses, is there any restriction on who is allowed to have their bike security-marked? When they were at the sports centre last year (when it was the servitors doing the marking/recording rather than the polices) they unfortunately didn't discover that I was neither staff nor student until after they'd done the tagging.</p> <p>Also, WRT: "<em>You'll even have the chance to jump in to a Lothian Bus or a Council waste vehicle and see the blind spots in large vehicles for yourself!"</em>: 10, 9, 8... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214191 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:04:03 +0000 Rob 214191@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Only if the comments on the Facebook article get their way :)</p> <p>More detail:</p> <p>"<br /> DRIVE SAFE CYCLE SAFE</p> <p>Is your bike safe for the summer?</p> <p>Come along to one of the 'Streets Ahead' spring road shows and let our road safety professionals have a look.</p> <p>At the events, there will be -</p> <p>· free bike checks by the Bike Station</p> <p>· bike security marking by local officers</p> <p>· bike accessory giveaways</p> <p>· safety demonstrations and much more...</p> <p>DATES FOR YOUR DIARIES...<br /> Tuesday 15 March, 11am to 2pm<br /> Heriot Watt University<br /> Meadow Road, at the access road to Leonard Horner Hall</p> <p>Thursday 24 March, 11am to 2pm<br /> Edinburgh University<br /> Charles Street, Potterrow campus, by the Informatics building</p> <p>The number of people cycling in Edinburgh is increasing as is, unfortunately, the number of cyclist casualties.</p> <p>You'll even have the chance to jump in to a Lothian Bus or a Council waste vehicle and see the blind spots in large vehicles for yourself!<br /> " </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214190 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:01:59 +0000 neddie 214190@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh and they've even thrown in a nice "CYCLISTS STAY BACK" poster.</p> <p>And telling people how 'dangerous' cycling is </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214188 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:57:07 +0000 neddie 214188@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"checks"?</p> <p>Hmmm, what kind of checks?</p> <p>Why aren't you wearing a h*lmet? Where's your hi-vis? Take your headphones out... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16162#post-214186 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:30:29 +0000 Rob 214186@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> Bike safety events 2mo &amp; next Thurs for checks &amp; security markings<br /> "</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/EdinburghPolice/status/709353035974242304" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/EdinburghPolice/status/709353035974242304</a> </p>