http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Roseburn Park - shared path closed (now open!) en Tue, 19 May 2026 18:42:25 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=9#post-293994 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:46:52 +0000 neddie 293994@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Rearranging the deckchairs while the Titanic sinks...</p> <p><em>New slow markings and signage</em></p> <p>Yeah, if you feel the need to put signage up, you know your infra is garbage. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=9#post-293982 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:11:09 +0000 steveo 293982@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hang on so they spent £30k on a trial which they're going to rip out half? And the half that's remaining is only a problem as long as the toilet block is kept. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=9#post-293980 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:03:06 +0000 Stickman 293980@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-roseburn-park-trial/" rel="nofollow">https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-roseburn-park-trial/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=9#post-292592 Tue, 02 Oct 2018 10:18:36 +0000 chdot 292592@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/thebonnieloon/status/1047035570810232832" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/thebonnieloon/status/1047035570810232832</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=9#post-292578 Tue, 02 Oct 2018 07:29:33 +0000 HankChief 292578@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Friends of Roseburn Park have set up this public meeting on cycling in Roseburn Park on Monday 8th at 3.30pm 4.30pm at Murrayfield View Retirement flats Common Room, Roseburn Place.</p> <p>"<em>All welcome. Your chance to let Council cycling officer Martyn Lings hear your views on the Cycle path trial in Roseburn Park</em>"</p> <p>"<em>The Council are not ruling out extending the white lining so that it runs right through the park. If you feel this would not be a good idea, its important you feed back to say this. Also if you don’t like the existing trial lines and surfacing. FoRP are concerned that the path is not wide enough, and zoning areas exclusively for cyclists/ pedestri-<br /> an could lead to conflicts, as dogs can run into the path of cyclists. Indeed, some say cyclists go faster, some say it’s led to less friction with walkers. What do you think?</em>"</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/RoseburnCycle/status/1047008948971343872?s=19">Tweet with poster</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=9#post-288720 Sat, 11 Aug 2018 08:59:27 +0000 gembo 288720@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@hankchief from your position on MCC how do you think the idea of Child Friendly Edinburgh will go down?</p> <p>This is an idea about emphasising how we work to meet the needs of children, their families and their communities delivered through schools.</p> <p>The majority of the council budget is spent on education. Schools are about helping to produce the citizens of the future. </p> <p>Do you think the MCC would embrace such a headline? Obviously some people do not have children but that might not stop them trying to be friendlier towards them?</p> <p>One hook might be the need for an army of care workers in the future to look after the members of the MCC. </p> <p>Sometimes if you find the right hook, the scales fall away.</p> <p>For example people I know who resisted the 20mph zones switched to liking them when I used the 70per cent chance of a child surviving being hit by a driver's car at 20mph but 70 per cent chance of dying when they are hit at 30mph.</p> <p>Hooks is what I am looking for, any ideas welcome. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-288719 Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:30:44 +0000 chdot 288719@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/murrayfieldcc/status/1027959862293086213?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/murrayfieldcc/status/1027959862293086213?s=21</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285928 Thu, 28 Jun 2018 16:08:02 +0000 LivM 285928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@HankChief well bah humbug :D<br /> I plan to walk or cycle there with my son and his friends. Taking a car off the road which might otherwise have been going to another play park. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285927 Thu, 28 Jun 2018 15:55:47 +0000 HankChief 285927@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@LivD- at a recent MCC a Roseburn resident complained that the play park will bring more cars to the already overburdened parking in Roseburn </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285918 Thu, 28 Jun 2018 14:05:02 +0000 LivM 285918@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Slightly OT but we might well cycle there: There's a new Facebook post from friends of Roseburn Park that says that the play park contractor has been appointed and work should be completed by mid October :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285828 Tue, 26 Jun 2018 21:30:58 +0000 gembo 285828@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gave my views </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285827 Tue, 26 Jun 2018 21:15:51 +0000 HankChief 285827@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Consultation on the new shared use arrangement closes tomorrow.</p> <p>Get your views in.</p> <p><a href="https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-roseburn-park-trial/" rel="nofollow">https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/design-cycle-walk-roseburn-park-trial/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285103 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:38:26 +0000 stiltskin 285103@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I walk the dogs as well as cycle through the park. There is plenty of crap cycling but if you are getting daily abuse you are probably doing something to attract it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285099 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:25:51 +0000 wingpig 285099@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"I'm pretty sure cyclists don't go around swearing and threatening randomly"</em></blockquote></p> <p>Not randomly, but plenty of turnips visibly huff and puff and tut (albeit not necessarily effingly and blindingly) when their precious momentum is threatened by other path users on a range of paths, not just through parks. I pass through Roseburn Park only rarely, but saw two or three instances of a fast cyclist getting huffy and impatient with a pedestrian over four or five visits. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285095 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:20:12 +0000 gembo 285095@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A cyclist swore at me the other day in Juni green as I was climbing the bend from where the path was diverted when the housing development went in at the mill site, back up to the original path from whence he was coming. Went like this (I had veered on to his side in the bright sunshine of my daydreams, and he was within his rights to swear, but note he didn't start with swearing)</p> <p>Sweary Cyclist: BIKE<br /> Silly Gembo: Wahooooo</p> <p>Sweary Cyclists: Effing Jeffing</p> <p>I think h mis perceived my surprise mixed with gratitude as offensive?</p> <p>Still quite a bit of swearing. But I am quite thick skinned </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285089 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 12:59:29 +0000 neddie 285089@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>two incidents of cyclists swearing at and threatening pedestrians had been reported</em></p> <p>I wonder what provoked them into doing that, cos I'm pretty sure cyclists don't go around swearing and threatening randomly. They only do that when their very existence is under threat. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285086 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 12:50:54 +0000 threefromleith 285086@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've been cycling through Roseburn park when travelling to and from work since April 2006, and I've NEVER seen any incidents between cyclists or pedestrians in all that time.</p> <p>I'm not saying that they don't happen every now and again (we all know human nature and the way some cyclists and some pedestrians behave), but I'm highly sceptical of an anonymous 'member of the public' who says it's a 'daily occurrence'. You'd think they'd have been gathering video evidence of this by now if they see it daily! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285057 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 09:24:41 +0000 paulmilne 285057@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Most of this sort of thing could have been avoided if they had built a separate cycle track adjacent to the footpath. Big park, lots of grass, but no, let's squeeze everyone together onto one path. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-285048 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 08:45:52 +0000 Stickman 285048@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the minutes of the last Murrayfield Community Council:</p> <p> "Cllr Gloyer reported that during a three month trial of road markings for bicycles in Roseburn Park two incidents of cyclists swearing at and threatening pedestrians had been reported. A member of the public who walks his dog in Roseburn Park every day confirmed that such incidents are a daily occurrence. Cllr Gloyer asked that such incidents be reported to her. P Gregson said that the Friends of Roseburn Park would also like to know about them. The same member of the public asked whether the Water of Leith walkway is a cycle path as well as a walkway and was told by P Gregson that it is.<strong> It was felt that the removal of the SLOW sign and the installation of markings for cyclists in Roseburn Park may give the impression that cyclists have priority.</strong>"</p> <p>Well worth the £30k then. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-284840 Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:56:07 +0000 Stickman 284840@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No, that was part of the flood works. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-284839 Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:39:04 +0000 paulmilne 284839@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Surely the approach ramp and bridge from Roseburn Place would have taken up a fair chunk of that. Unless it came out of the flood prevention works budget? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-284724 Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:30:44 +0000 threefromleith 284724@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>*bangs head off table until it bleeds*</p> <p>For a bit of paint &amp; some tactiles?! Someone's pocketing the cash &amp; doing some creative work with the receipts for the Dulux.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-284696 Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:08:26 +0000 Stickman 284696@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This rubbish cost £30k. Unbelievable. </p> <p><a href="https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/cycling_and_walking_improvements#incoming-1172879" rel="nofollow">https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/cycling_and_walking_improvements#incoming-1172879</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-283716 Thu, 31 May 2018 14:24:30 +0000 Frenchy 283716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>It also puzzles me why, if Edinburgh currently play at the big stadium next door, they can't go on doing so. Is it because SRU want the option to charge other clients more handsomely for use of the main stadium on the twenty or so days when Edinburgh Rugby would otherwise want to use the pitch?</em></p> <p>It's because fans keep complaining that there's not a good atmosphere when there's only 5000 people in a 67000 seat stadium. I doubt they'd have an event on the same night as a match even if the match was in the mini stadium. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-283707 Thu, 31 May 2018 12:55:16 +0000 ejstubbs 283707@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><strong>@Stickman</strong>: <em>Out of interest, how much did the SRU contribute to the flood works which will make this development possible?</em></p> <p>AFAIK they didn't contribute anything. What they did do was to object to the original flood prevention scheme, which was designed to use the training pitches as what they actually are: a flood plain. This objection caused the scheme to be redesigned, resulting in the ugly and much less wildlife-friendly concrete canalisation of the WoL past Roseburn Park that we see today. It was almost certainly also one of the contributory factors to the significantly increased costs and delayed implementation of the project.</p> <p>Any hydrologist will tell you that allowing floodwater to flow more freely simply pushes the problem downstream. I know that at one time there was a plan to build a massive retention tank under Donaldson's School. I don't know whether that went ahead, or what it cost if it did.</p> <p>On the face of it this does smack somewhat of the SRU taking advantage of the public purse having been raided to protect their playing fields against a once-in-100-years flood event, to turn those now-protected fields in to a nice little earner.</p> <p>It also puzzles me why, if Edinburgh currently play at the big stadium next door, they can't go on doing so. Is it because SRU want the option to charge other clients more handsomely for use of the main stadium on the twenty or so days when Edinburgh Rugby would otherwise want to use the pitch?</p> <p>Edited to add: given that, according to the article, the training pitch has a synthetic 3G surface, it sounds as if advantage has already been taken of the publicly-funded enhanced flood protection at Roseburn Park. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-283704 Thu, 31 May 2018 12:28:36 +0000 threefromleith 283704@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo Me too! Ped-side tiles avoid any tramlining and squeaky-bum moments. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-283702 Thu, 31 May 2018 12:18:08 +0000 gembo 283702@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@threefromleith, If I was visually impaired I do not think I would be out walking on the Stenhouse path or any other shared use path, tactile pavings or not.</p> <p>When no one else around, I confess I veer over the other side and bump the tactile paving on the perpendicular </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-283701 Thu, 31 May 2018 12:11:43 +0000 Stickman 283701@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/edinburgh-rugby/planning-bid-launched-for-new-edinburgh-rugby-stadium-at-murrayfield-1-4747664" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/edinburgh-rugby/planning-bid-launched-for-new-edinburgh-rugby-stadium-at-murrayfield-1-4747664</a></p> <p>Out of interest, how much did the SRU contribute to the flood works which will make this development possible? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-280998 Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:20:07 +0000 threefromleith 280998@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I hate those tactiles. Lethally slippery in the damp / wet when skinny tyres 'tramline' in them.</p> <p>I'd love to hear whether the partially-sighted or blind actually find them useful or not.</p> <p>Which reminds me - I must get on to the council as most of the tactiles along Broomhouse / Saughton are loose and/or cracked and the see-saw effect adds to the terror of crossing them in the wet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16593&page=8#post-280987 Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:10:45 +0000 Stickman 280987@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Great Roseburn Park Infrastructure Project grinds slowly on. Some tactiles have been installed at the end of one of the new lines of paint. Presumably more are to go in across the full width of the path, otherwise it is a complete waste of time. </p> <p>Some good news though: the new "Keep Clear" sign at the entrance is still being observed. </p>