http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: What's it like living on Easter Road? (Also Lochend Butterfly to Meadowbank) en Sat, 18 Apr 2026 14:39:04 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290860 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:58:55 +0000 Nelly 290860@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That’s fine, but it will ‘justify’ lots of (unnecessary) ‘you're suppose get off’.</p> <p>If previous experience anything to go by, the sign will last days, if that </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290848 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:22:55 +0000 chdot 290848@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“I imagine a few days use will determine if people actually feel the need to dismount.”</p> <p>That’s fine, but it will ‘justify’ lots of (unnecessary) ‘you're suppose get off’. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290842 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 09:00:29 +0000 Nelly 290842@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Agree entirely re the width of mounted v unmounted bike.</p> <p>Have not seen the new path "live" as yet, however I would guess the issue is the right angle turn at Sainsburys end with poor sightline of any approaching pedestrians etc.</p> <p>They are probably just covering themselves in the event of any collisions.</p> <p>I imagine a few days use will determine if people actually feel the need to dismount. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290834 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:15:15 +0000 chdot 290834@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is anyone going to contact Places for People and say “please be courteous” is good, but no reason why it should only apply to cyclists. </p> <p>“Please dismount” is counterproductive as someone pushing a bike takes up more room. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290825 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 07:26:59 +0000 wingpig 290825@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2aTEbYC"><img src="https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1875/44560495932_5ceb56d363_n.jpg"></a><br /> Signs both ends. Two at this end. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290737 Mon, 10 Sep 2018 09:28:25 +0000 wingpig 290737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>New path constant width, no narrower than narrowest parts of old path. No detectable wobble on the temporary path's supporting structure; perhaps a little give under the surface. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290730 Mon, 10 Sep 2018 09:01:09 +0000 chdot 290730@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why is dismounting ‘necessary’?</p> <p>Is new path narrower than old one (which wasn’t particularly wide)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-290729 Mon, 10 Sep 2018 08:50:29 +0000 wingpig 290729@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Temporary path now active. There's a sign at the Sainsbury end saying "cyclists please temporarily dismount" and probably one at the other end which I didn't spot. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-289768 Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:35:40 +0000 Nelly 289768@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wingpig - yes I saw that on Saturday, incomplete as yet but looks like they are putting in place an improved temporary path - great news ! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-289763 Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:19:19 +0000 wingpig 289763@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/298kb5M"><img src="https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/43402503205_93f3b2dc6c_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/298kb5M">2018-08-27_08-56-29</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/wingpig/">wingpig</a>, on Flickr</p> <p>This is why there need not be any footpath closures:</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2avcggF"><img src="https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1893/44306279441_83036074ff_n.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2avcggF">2018-08-27_07-06-05</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/wingpig/">wingpig</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-288363 Sun, 05 Aug 2018 07:28:31 +0000 Nelly 288363@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Such a silly article, just a cut and paste advert for BoS really.</p> <p>Its perhaps not surprising that Hibs abd Hearts are "top of this league" as they are located slap in the middle of prime residential areas close to the city centre.</p> <p>St Johnstone (Perth) relocated a number of years ago to a farmers field on the bypass so their data has little value, and Aberdeen stadium is on the beach........</p> <p>Was a bit surorised at the drop in average values near Celtic Park, as this was a very depressed area with a lot of poor quality council housing.</p> <p>That all changed recently as the Commonwealth games village etc went up in that area. Perhaps those are shared ownership / public mix which might explain the lower values over the last decade??? </p> <p>Anyway, I meant to post a couple of weeks back that the temporary footpath is still open and showing no sign of being closed despite the work going on around it. Perhaps the builders have found a way for pedestrians to coexist with their project? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-288316 Fri, 03 Aug 2018 14:08:14 +0000 chdot 288316@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Bank of Scotland research states homes in the Easter Road area are priced the most expensive compared to property close to the 11 other Scottish top flight grounds.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/hibs-edge-hearts-as-prices-soar-for-homes-near-scottish-grounds-1-4777964" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/hibs-edge-hearts-as-prices-soar-for-homes-near-scottish-grounds-1-4777964</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-276061 Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:03:08 +0000 Nelly 276061@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Hope it happens" Indeed. I only use it occasionally, but would be a real PITA for residents at the butterfly. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-276053 Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:20:37 +0000 chdot 276053@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Closure of the footpath will take place, we expect in all 2-3 months, however it remains our aim to provide a temporary access next to the footpath in order to prevent any inconvenience</p> <p>“</p> <p>Seems odd that the path will be needed for development but there is room next to it for maintaining a route.</p> <p>Hope it happens. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-276049 Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:06:57 +0000 Nelly 276049@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just had an email from PfP</p> <p><em>Good Morning Mr Craig</p> <p>UPDATE ON FOOTPATH</p> <p>It is our intention to keep everyone informed with updated signs at the footpath regarding any new information we have.</p> <p>Closure of the footpath will take place, we expect in all 2-3 months, however it remains our aim to provide a temporary access next to the footpath in order to prevent any inconvenience.</p> <p>This temporary route will remain in place until we can re-open the walkway, following completion of the adjacent construction works.</p> <p>Your Sincerely</em></p> <p>Sounds like whatever works they are doing, that some temporary footpath (perhaps the current, litter strewn mess?) will remain.</p> <p>Perhaps a victory for common sense (after, no doubt a lot of emailing by residents and councillors)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-269239 Sat, 09 Dec 2017 14:21:47 +0000 Nelly 269239@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Did the 3 day closure actually happen then? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266446 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:52:46 +0000 kaputnik 266446@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The signs have been taped off to hide the dates, and small paper notices pasted alongside.</p> <p>The imminent 3-day closure has been postponed because of volume of concerns raised and the inadequate (&lt;1 week) notice given. Another, longer, closure is expected next year. Working with council, health and safety, blah blah but nothing about trying to make sure a route is maintained here.</p> <p>The access on to the Crawford Bridge was an odd thing to raise given a/ it still results in a very long detour to get to London Road or Sainsburys and b/ according to the site manager that chdot and I spoke to it was always intended to be "part of phase 2" to actually make the connection and c/ anyone with half a basic understanding of structural engineering can see that if they cut a slot on the bridge to provide access to the Urbane Den then they fundamentally compromise the structural integrity of it.</p> <p>I note also that Lochend Park (one of the alternative routes to Sainsburys or London Road) from the Albion Road side of the bridge) has no lighting at night, the lamp posts in it having long ceased to function. I'll email the local councillors on this. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266300 Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:43:10 +0000 Nelly 266300@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In answer to my question re length of closure (he said this one would be 3 days, I queried next one)</p> <p>"We are trying to minimise this as much as possible, however there could be a much longer duration of closure when we begin major construction work next to the path early in the year. We are looking at all options to keep this closure as short as possible, however I cannot confirm exactly how long this will be at this stage"</p> <p>Magic..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266222 Sat, 11 Nov 2017 13:17:46 +0000 chdot 266222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Went to the Butterfly yesterday.</p> <p>Found a well used, unplanned for(?) desire line.</p> <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4569/38299603252_377a778d82.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266161 Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:38:20 +0000 crowriver 266161@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I believe that the original plans also make ped and cycle provision at some stage into Rossie Place"</p> <p>Scuppered by EGIP railway work I believe (EGIP was itself "re-scoped" ie. cut).</p> <p>Maybe get back to them asking for a re-opening date as they've neatly dodged that question... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266157 Fri, 10 Nov 2017 13:20:45 +0000 Nelly 266157@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Unless I’m misunderstanding the geography, this would in no sense be an alternative"</p> <p>Unless <em>alternative</em> meant completely different route which would take people onto Easter Road and not London Road..........</p> <p>"It would almost be convoluted enough to qualify for NCN designation"</p> <p>Agreed - although IIRC there was some chat that the Urban Eden people would do some kind of link to the Crawford Bridge to save the longish walk round to Easter Road - but thats an entirely different route to the Saisburys cutthrough.</p> <p>I believe that the original plans also make ped and cycle provision at some stage into Rossie Place, which (assuming all the links stay open) would be useful in cutting out (part of the) crappy Easter Road cycle for some commutes.</p> <p>What irritates about this entire situation is that, provision of the ped/cycle route to Moray Place (sainsburys end) is actually in the contract of sale for the land to the developers (well done council), but the current path is temporary, pretty badly drained and lit - and it feels like it will be the last thing to be built properly in the development, and as evidenced in this situation, not something prioritised by the builders.</p> <p>If it were a road.......... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266155 Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:59:46 +0000 wingpig 266155@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote><em>"Unless I’m misunderstanding the geography, this would in no sense be an alternative."</em></blockquote></p> <p>Presuuuumably they mean linking reasonably directly along the Sainsbury side, perhaps using the large/wide track visible parallel to the trackbed from the Sainsburymost parapet of the Easter Road end of Crawford Bridge. That would still avoid Marionville. London or Easter Roads, but would involve an extra and yet-non-existent route up past the new "Downing" student shoeboxes off Bothwell Street. It would almost be convoluted enough to qualify for NCN designation. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266148 Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:19:13 +0000 neddie 266148@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Perhaps if they'd just written on the sign that the path would only be shut for 3 days, nobody would've bothered them... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266147 Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:16:45 +0000 chdot 266147@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“A new link to Crawford Bridge could provide an alternative route, regrettably the delay in bringing this forward has been outwith our control.“</p> <p>Unless I’m misunderstanding the geography, this would in no sense be an alternative.</p> <p><em>However</em> would be interesting to know if this is a new new link or the completion of one ‘through’ a recently completed block - which it’s been suggested would be “residents only’.</p> <p>(Think details on Powderhall thread.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266144 Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:07:21 +0000 Nelly 266144@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Dear Mr Nelly,</p> <p>In response to concerns raised by members of the community about receiving short notice regarding the closure of the link path to Moray Park Terrace for essential works, I can confirm that we have agreed to delay closure until later this month to allow you to make alternative arrangements if required. Once plans are finalised, the exact dates the route will be closed will be shown on noticeboards which will be erected at either end of the walkway. The path will re-open after three days.</p> <p>We also draw your attention to construction work taking place in the new year which will again result in closure of the path. We are working together with City of Edinburgh Council to establish measures we must comply with to ensure public safety throughout the construction phase. We will be able to provide you with full details of what to expect as soon as this programme is agreed. </p> <p>We understand that the footpath is a very convenient route for residents and, ideally, we would like to be in position to offer an equally suitable access link. A new link to Crawford Bridge could provide an alternative route, regrettably the delay in bringing this forward has been outwith our control. We will have been working closely with City of Edinburgh Council and Network Rail to try to resolve this prior to the commencement of phase 1, and we will continue to do so.</p> <p>We apologise for any inconvenience caused by the essential closure of the footpath, and going forward we will keep you fully informed of plans affecting your access routes using the site noticeboards.</p> <p>Yours sincerely</p> <p>Stephen Mason<br /> Quality Manager" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699&page=2#post-266096 Thu, 09 Nov 2017 23:11:22 +0000 Nelly 266096@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>According to the Evening News article it's closed indefinitely.</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/john-mclellan-path-closure-would-force-urban-eden-residents-to-make-20-minute-detour-1-4608358" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/john-mclellan-path-closure-would-force-urban-eden-residents-to-make-20-minute-detour-1-4608358</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699#post-266092 Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:10:33 +0000 chdot 266092@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I have also posted the email address on Hibs.net as I know a lot of fans used it to access Easter Road Stadium on matchdays."</p> <p>Hope some of them email! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699#post-266077 Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:14:05 +0000 Nelly 266077@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some future attempt to close it to all but “residents” (there are various bits of that development already ‘private’)"</p> <p>Indeed - really odd one this, as a lot of people have found it really helpful.</p> <p>I seem to remember that as part of the new development this area was to retain a footpath and was to be landscaped. Perhaps thats the works referred to?</p> <p>I have asked them what this means and the reopen date.</p> <p>I have also posted the email address on Hibs.net as I know a lot of fans used it to access Easter Road Stadium on matchdays. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699#post-266066 Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:14:15 +0000 chdot 266066@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16699#post-266064 Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:11:38 +0000 Klaxon 266064@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not only a week - it is closing in one week's time.</p> <p>Duration not stated on the sign. </p>