http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Where in Edinburgh is definitely off-limits to handcycles? en Sun, 28 Jun 2026 06:41:53 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-228254 Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:14:02 +0000 Cyclingmollie 228254@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is an overlap between the places that are inaccessible to wheelchairs and places that are inaccessible to handcycles. From memory the zoo is tough to deal with for wheelchair users because of the steepness. There are streets in the New Town which have pavements with double-kerbs and those will defeat any wheelchair. </p> <p><em>complaining about some of the barriers under the Disability Discrimination Act...</em></p> <p>The DDA was replaced by the Equalities Act in 2010. The reasonable adjustment that implies that service providers remove barriers to wheelchair users probably doesn't extend to handcycle users but it's an interesting grey area. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-228164 Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:35:37 +0000 neddie 228164@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Both ends of Ladiebridge (part of CEC quiet route 9):</p> <p><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/yCx1FZMCkZ62" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/maps/yCx1FZMCkZ62</a></p> <p><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/QtS7sWGantJ2" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/maps/QtS7sWGantJ2</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227347 Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:29:06 +0000 threefromleith 227347@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not sure you'd get a handcycle through the chicane barriers at the Balgreen end of the tram path, so he'd have to avoid that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227313 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 15:02:17 +0000 gembo 227313@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah now, one day there might be a huge queue of people needing to get onto the canal to spot a kingfisher and that gogarstation road turnstile arrangement will come in very handy </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227306 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 13:06:23 +0000 I were right about that saddle 227306@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The ease of bypassing is part of its unhinged beauty. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227305 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:57:13 +0000 chdot 227305@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very similar </p> <p>BUT</p> <p>Seem to remember the canal version is easily bypassed(?) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227304 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:41:00 +0000 I were right about that saddle 227304@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>the insane ironmongery</em></p> <p>Is it madder than the lunatic scrapheap at the bottom of the canal to Gogar Station Road ramp? That's my favourite. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227301 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:01:21 +0000 drnoble 227301@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is this something that we should be capturing in CycleScape? Perhaps good to add these issues to a map? </p> <p><a href="http://edinburgh.cyclescape.org" rel="nofollow">http://edinburgh.cyclescape.org</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227299 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:22:51 +0000 chdot 227299@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"To be honest, I would put that pretty low on a list of priorities to fix: reducing the steepness would be very expensive!"</p> <p>Yes. </p> <p>But, the steepness was compounded by the atrocious surface caused by tree roots. </p> <p>This was dealt with moderately successfully <em>years</em> after it needed doing!</p> <p>HOWEVER the insane ironmongery near the top (sidepath to Craigleith View) which is bad enough for normal solo bikes just shouldn't have been there for the last 30 years! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227298 Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:04:25 +0000 fimm 227298@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Depending on how much of a campaigner your friend wants to become, he does have the option of complaining about some of the barriers under the Disability Discrimination Act...</p> <p>I agree about Ravelston Dykes from the NEPN. I go that way regularly because it is convenient for me, but I always push my bike up the slope. There isn't a dropped kerb at the top, either. To be honest, I would put that pretty low on a list of priorities to fix: reducing the steepness would be very expensive! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227259 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 20:15:34 +0000 LaidBack 227259@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The back route from Magdelene to Portobello over the bridge at Hope St bridge / Craigentinny. Barriers are too close together - despite the intervention of the forum!</p> <p>Other rubbish route is the extended bit of prom running east towards Granton. This now has been shifted to meet a barrier that we had to lift trikes over earlier in day. Bikes could just slip through a 0.5m gap. Visitors had just been in NL and thought it was amazing how such a route could end in a barrier to bikes. Been reported but would be nice to sort this summer. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227245 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:47:35 +0000 LivM 227245@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Getting up onto Ravelston Dykes from NEPN. Horrible hill, narrowish barrier. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227236 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:15:18 +0000 chdot 227236@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8338/28804522715_4b20a32fa0.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227235 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:12:46 +0000 chdot 227235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nope.</p> <p>At present you just go down the new road and cross a rough bit of verge onto 'old' path.</p> <p>This is quite rough in the section before you join the tarmac Lasswade Rd - Loanhead path. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227234 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:05:24 +0000 Frenchy 227234@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Not properly connected of course.</em></p> <p>Do you know when/if this will change? The connection to the Loanhead Railway path is quite tortuous just now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227233 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:57:15 +0000 chdot 227233@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Except that the Straiton Pond path now has a massive bypass -</p> <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8274/28727393711_a740ae164c.jpg"></p> <p>Not properly connected of course.</p> <p>(Pond behind trees.) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227232 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:53:49 +0000 Frenchy 227232@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The Straiton Pond path with the silly narrow gate?</em></p> <p>Indeed. If you somehow got past that, there are equally bad obstacles on the Loanhead-Roslin path. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227229 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:47:03 +0000 algo 227229@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes indeed there are those things on the Pencaitland path and they're a pain... through the park in Dalkeith and also going past Hopetoun house there are those enclosed gate things which are a nightmare for trailers.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227228 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:34:53 +0000 kaputnik 227228@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Crawford Bridge (the one between Albion Road and Bothwell Street).</p> <p>I seem to recall there being those awful narrow-bike width-get-narrower-towards-the-top Sustrans devices on the Pencaitland railway path and also on some of the access to the Dalkeith - Penicuik path (particularly at Smeaton) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227227 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:14:40 +0000 wingpig 227227@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Straiton Pond path with the silly narrow gate?<br /> Possibly some of the spurs off the Pinkhill path, where chicanes might not accept something long and double-tracked. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227223 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:42:59 +0000 gembo 227223@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>towpath would work contour wise but all the wee cobbles and the like would be a 'mare </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16732#post-227222 Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:14:44 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 227222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Figured I'd ask this here, given the experience of those with trikes or trailers will likely match up.</p> <p>I'll be giving my Spokes map to my friend with the handcycle*, and we're meeting up at the Shore for dinner next week specifically because he can easily-ish get onto the NEPN with a big loop to get there. But he wants to explore more. As off-road networky, or very quiet roads, as possible, given his relative uphill speed to traffic, and still finding his feet (if you'll pardon the pun) with the handcycle (he managed to crash a borrowed one on Cumbrae a couple of weeks ago and bashed up his already-mobility-limiting ankle).</p> <p>So where are there barriers and so on that will definitely make it too troublesome to ride?</p> <p>* he's now got two - the monster MTB, which felt very odd, and a new road bike, which he lies back on about 2 inches off the ground. He's started doing Arthur's Seat laps on a Sunday (when the road is closed) to build up the arm muscles, and we compared Strava times - we're perfectly matched on the downhills, but the up sounds like a heck of a drag, taking ten minutes more! </p>