http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Mad ideas for Roseburn Tce en Sat, 16 May 2026 08:41:01 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=3#post-236238 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 14:34:11 +0000 I were right about that saddle 236238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>It's on the Daily Fail site.</em></p> <p>That is no way to refer to the Volksbekanntmachung. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-236235 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:57:34 +0000 acsimpson 236235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thank link should carry a health warning. It's on the Daily Fail site. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-236234 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:52:24 +0000 I were right about that saddle 236234@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Call the dogs off. <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3926700/Move-James-Bond-World-s-commercially-available-jetpack-sale-qualified-buyers.html">Cycle track redundant.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-233571 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 10:29:43 +0000 wingpig 233571@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This drifts off-topic a bit towards the end and has a nice few paragraphs about traffic-calming and congestion-easing through road-unlabelling:</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/crash-how-computers-are-setting-us-up-disaster" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/crash-how-computers-are-setting-us-up-disaster</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-232626 Sat, 01 Oct 2016 10:01:11 +0000 I were right about that saddle 232626@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sneak footage of early testing on The Vision.</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIbTFfS8SCk" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIbTFfS8SCk</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230589 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 14:30:40 +0000 I were right about that saddle 230589@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.masonic-lodge-edinburgh.co.uk/#/curious/4542980925">Curious.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230587 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 14:19:54 +0000 acsimpson 230587@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Alternatively The Lodge of Brotherly Love could be approached to see if they fancy having their building replace by vehicle access to a new car park in the back greens of Roseburn Terrace. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230586 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 14:19:10 +0000 acsimpson 230586@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>cb if you relocate the shops from the North side instead then you would remove the need for pedestrians to cross the road as they could just walk round the block. You could then move all remaining access to the building on the north side to the rear of the properties and replace the pavement on the north side with a cycle path. The parking/loading lane could become a 24 hour bus lane.</p> <p>Perhaps Traffic coming out of Russell Road should use the lane behind Tesco. I'm sure the local councillors will approve. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230568 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:05:56 +0000 cb 230568@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Relocate all the shops from the south side of Roseburn Terrace to Roseburn Place. Make Roseburn Place a do-what-the-hell-you-want zone for cars. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230565 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 12:34:53 +0000 neddie 230565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Widen the pavements and put in a big wide segregated cycle lane. Put bollards along the length so no vehicles can get on the pavement / cycleway.</p> <p>Remove all lane markings and all parking restrictions from the remaining space and just let the traffic sort itself out (LOL).</p> <p>Buses can have battering rams fitted to the front to clear away any cars as required. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230563 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 12:22:21 +0000 wingpig 230563@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@kaputnik Almost, but paired for simultaneous two-way travel and with greater vertical hoickage to clear the static private motor cars and legitimately-parked bacon-procurement vehicles at ground level. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230550 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:26:44 +0000 kaputnik 230550@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@wingpig what you are referring to is basically a transporter bridge e.g. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tees_Transporter_Bridge" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tees_Transporter_Bridge</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230549 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:25:28 +0000 Morningsider 230549@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hankchief - I would instigate a tidal flow system. There would be three traffic lanes - one bus lane would be operational into/out of town at the morning/evening peak. Two, general traffic lanes would be operational at all times - controlled by electronic signal gantries/rising bollards, so people knew which lanes were which.</p> <p>Loading/parking would be allowed outside of peak periods.</p> <p>Or, you could just ban loading/parking completely in peak hours and save the expense. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230540 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:18:35 +0000 chdot 230540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Forgot this wasn't the sensible thread."</p> <p>Ah, so did I slightly.</p> <p>Then again 'Roseburn isn't the Netherlands'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230539 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:16:23 +0000 wingpig 230539@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah. Forgot this wasn't the sensible thread. A pair of cranes: buses drive onto platforms at each end and are then hoicked over the traffic to the other end of the terrace, handily counterbalancing each other. It could be a lucrative engineering-marvel tourist attraction like the Falkirk Wheel, except without any car parking and no bike path going right beside it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230537 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:13:01 +0000 chdot 230537@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not forgetting the classic -</p> <p><a href="https://youtu.be/XuBdf9jYj7o" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/XuBdf9jYj7o</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230535 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:07:03 +0000 sallyhinch 230535@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Something like this, perhaps?</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/crabbitcopy/status/773147442057515009" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/crabbitcopy/status/773147442057515009</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230529 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:43:49 +0000 kaputnik 230529@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This oughtha fit down the middle of the Terrace.</p> <p><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_George_Bennie_Railplane_System_of_Transport_poster,_1929.png#/media/File:The_George_Bennie_Railplane_System_of_Transport_poster,_1929.png"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/The_George_Bennie_Railplane_System_of_Transport_poster%2C_1929.png"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230523 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:17:13 +0000 I were right about that saddle 230523@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Hankchief</p> <p>Put the price of driving on Roseburn Terrace up until demand for driving space exactly matches the space available? I think that's the dominant resource allocation paradigm in our society so there should be no objections. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230521 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:12:10 +0000 neddie 230521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Join all the buses together. Then run them on a special low-friction metal surface. Add lots of doors so people can get on and off quickly. Then attach some electric wires overhead to keep them clean.</p> <p>One could even call it a...</p> <p>&lt;whispers&gt;</p> <p>tram. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230520 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:57:13 +0000 fimm 230520@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ban loading; have a dedicated traffic warden who would police this (or even better CCTV) so that people popping in for bacon rolls or whatever can't. (This is the problem outside the Co-op/Greggs in Gorgie, people just popping in for something.)</p> <p>Does Roseburn have red lines by the side of the road, rather than yellow ones? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230518 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:50:49 +0000 wingpig 230518@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Get non-bus motor vehicles out of the buses' way? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230514 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 07:56:39 +0000 HankChief 230514@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Question for the hive mind.</p> <p>If you wanted to prioritise bus travel through Roseburn over all else, what would you do?</p> <p>Obviously that Chinese traffic straddling bus, but anything slightly more practical? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230086 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 15:33:29 +0000 kaputnik 230086@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>so no need for locks and some need for aqueducts and the Falkirk wheel</em></p> <p>The wheel replaced a set of locks, but the locks were to connect 2 different canals (Forth &amp; Clyde and the Union) rather than to get 1 canal over a hill.</p> <p>According to Wikipedia, it took 3,500 tons of water and nearly a whole day to complete a run through the lock system (a 35m drop/rise). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230080 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 14:02:50 +0000 chdot 230080@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Interestingly enough the water level in the canal is maintained by a feeder system starting with a reservoir in the Pentland Hills to the south, but including a three mile channel from the River Almond at Mid Calder to the canal close to the Lin's Mill Aqueduct.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/falkirk/unioncanal/" rel="nofollow">http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/falkirk/unioncanal/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230078 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 14:01:29 +0000 steveo 230078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm sure Kaputnik will know better but I think there is a lochan a few miles from Edinburgh that keeps the whole thing at a (fairly) stable level and it does run down hill and out the system at Lochrin thus not stagnant. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230075 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:54:51 +0000 gembo 230075@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Much of Scotland is downhill from west to east, so maybe there is an incline? Contour canal follows the contour so no need for locks and some need for aqueducts and the Falkirk wheel. Could still be downhill a bit? There is a slight west east current most days presumably linked to the wind. Water leaks out occasionally after big rainfall? From slateford aqueduct. Does it ever get topped up? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230070 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:16:23 +0000 I were right about that saddle 230070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Union canal is downhill from Falkirk to Edinburgh. Cycle it and tell me it ain't so. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230069 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 13:15:08 +0000 dougal 230069@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A canal that's downhill, you say?</p> <p><a href="http://www.westland.net/expo67/map-docs/images/laronde12.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.westland.net/expo67/map-docs/images/laronde12.jpg</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16835&page=2#post-230060 Wed, 07 Sep 2016 12:00:18 +0000 wingpig 230060@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If trompe l'oeil and optical illusion are permitted then an Ames room arrangement whereby the bicycle track looks tiny but is over three metres wide whilst the loading bays look enormous but are really tiny would keep the shopkeeps happy. </p>