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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Pavement cyclists - where are they? http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Pavement cyclists - where are they? en Tue, 19 May 2026 09:25:04 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-232365 Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:40:31 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 232365@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Incoming, perhaps <a href="https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/gosport-pensioner-dies-from-head-injuries-after-row-with-cyclist-1-7602405" rel="nofollow">https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/gosport-pensioner-dies-from-head-injuries-after-row-with-cyclist-1-7602405</a> threefromleith on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231703 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 12:49:40 +0000 threefromleith 231703@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @dougal The Schroedinger's Cyclist :-) Baldcyclist on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231673 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:40:42 +0000 Baldcyclist 231673@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Ah, good ole 'victim-less' offenses, don't do anyone any harm. You know like phone spamming, never get tired of hearing about another solar deal... Wilmington's Cow on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231670 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:36:35 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 231670@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Pavement cycling isn't as big an issue as made out. However. Some people do cycle recklessly on the pavement. They shouldn't. Shades of grey. chdot on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231663 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:09:06 +0000 chdot 231663@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Where do I sue?" Try the campaigning organisations you were involved with before CCE existed... sallyhinch on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231655 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:11:53 +0000 sallyhinch 231655@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I constantly suffer from busy spells, and I blame this forum for at least partly getting me involved in cycle campaigning. Where do I sue? dougal on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231653 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:00:05 +0000 dougal 231653@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Much like immigrants who are simultaneously here to sponge off the state and to steal your job, cyclists are always in the extremes: riding too fast, riding too slow; riding on the road, riding on the pavement; tricked out like they're in the Tour, not even wearing a helmet. One might almost suggest that these are proxies for other causes of displeasure. crowriver on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231650 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 08:26:34 +0000 crowriver 231650@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Exactly. And when they're not maliciously bowling over frail pensioners like skittles on the pavement, these aggressive foul mouthed lycra louts are causing congestion and pollution by having the audacity to cycle IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, getting in the way of hard pressed, decent family motorists going about their lawful business. Hanging's too good for these malingerers. Dave on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231645 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 07:31:15 +0000 Dave 231645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Pavement cycling is like migration though. It might not be true that 68 million sweaty foreign johnnies are poised to sweep through suburbia and steal all your garden gnomes (and your job) but the fear of it stands as a phenomenon on its own. Nelly on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231644 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 07:17:06 +0000 Nelly 231644@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Pavement cycling might be annoying, but it rarely results in injury or death. There are far more pedestrians injured and killed on the pavement by cars. Someone posted detail from USA (new York?) which was an eye opener. The end of Whitehouse road at Strathearn place is closed for works. Last week a car mounted the pavement to gain access, narrowly missing a young lady with pram in the process. Now THAT is dangerous. Fountainbridge on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231630 Thu, 22 Sep 2016 21:23:03 +0000 Fountainbridge 231630@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ OK you did ask for pavement cyclists <a href="https://flic.kr/s/aHskKbj3wx" rel="nofollow">https://flic.kr/s/aHskKbj3wx</a> Most are from Fountainbridge and east Fountainbridge on the one way bits. Also seen loads of cyclists cycling westbound on West Maitland street (debatable if cyclists allowed to do that), then cycling through the pedestrian refuge islands, so they can cycle up Dalry Road. Blueth on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231481 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:03:39 +0000 Blueth 231481@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ The image of Barnes as a tourist destination? ih on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231463 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:47:41 +0000 ih 231463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I am sorry Emma Robinson was knocked over by an anti-social person on a bike, but this story is notable only because it's so rare, and is typical cycling bashing spin. I know Twickenham and Barnes well, used to be my cycling commute and they are both nightmares for cyclists. You need to be vehicular in the extreme to survive. So opportunity lost to promote genuine improvement for cycling. Also this from the Barnes Community Association website (Ms Robinson is Barnes Town Centre Manager): "Tne Town Centre Manager’s area of responsibility extends from North Barnes, through Church Road, Station Road, and the High Street to White Hart Lane. Their remit is to: help attract new, independent shops to Barnes, help make local shops more popular with residents of Barnes and neighbouring communities, build on the image of Barnes as a tourist destination – as a way of increasing shoppers’ footfall and work with traders to fight for their interests." Her job is to promote retail in Barnes, no mention of championing cycling, so another spin that says, "Look, even cycling champions get knocked over by (all) cyclists." Rant over. Rob on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231460 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:30:56 +0000 Rob 231460@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I'm surprised by the tone of this, given what the victim does and where it's published. Seems like a missed opportunity to promote her work on cycling provision and highlight the need for higher funding. "despite great progress it's unfortunate people still feel the need to cycle on pavements in some areas. Until adequate provision is available in these areas, please be considerate and look out for other vulnerable users" PS on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231457 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:16:29 +0000 PS 231457@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ From Baldcyclist's link: Doctors have said it may take Mrs Robinson, who suffered a blackout the following day and is still affected by busy spells, as much as three months to fully recover. Busy spells. Something else folk can blame cyclists for. :-D Baldcyclist on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231452 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:51:34 +0000 Baldcyclist 231452@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://road.cc/content/news/205412-cycling-champion-knocked-out-pavement-cyclist-calls-action-against-reckless">'Cycling champion' knocked out by pavement cyclist calls for action against reckless riders</a> wingpig on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231405 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:58:17 +0000 wingpig 231405@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I saw one this morning nip across the pedestrian crossing from the footway on Braid Road to the footway on Morningside Road. There's sometimes on or two using the footway to get through the red light from Home Street onto Lothian Road. PS on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894&page=2#post-231404 Wed, 21 Sep 2016 09:54:10 +0000 PS 231404@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I'd hesitate to call it a hotspot, but pavement cyclists in my neck of the woods can on occasion be seen on the west side of Mansfield Place (in preference to using the London Street/Broughton Street roundabout, with its excessively fast moving traffic and escape-preventing railings) and on the pavements of Drummond Place (avoiding the cobbles). chdot on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231387 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:23:27 +0000 chdot 231387@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "nasty bumpy gravelly path which can't be nice for road bikes" Yeah I was a bit unimpressed when I came across this on Saturday. I came back on the road (but not much traffic). <img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8045/29725022696_42535416b7.jpg"> Mandopicker101 on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231385 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:49:55 +0000 Mandopicker101 231385@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Certainly for some 'Dismount' signs, I think there's a rationale for their existence. In my own immediate neighbourhood, the Dismount signs appear to be intended to avoid putting cyclists and peds in situations likely to result in collisions. The bridge at Millhill is well used by peds, mini-peds and elder-peds (often with canines). Then again, I can see some signs having little reasonable rationale for being there and in fact might be life-limiting to cyclists. Horses for courses? paddyirish on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231364 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:35:16 +0000 paddyirish 231364@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I do it on MAybury Rd and at the minute from Ferrytoll to Inverkeithing High St ( a nasty bumpy gravelly path which can't be nice for road bikes...)., ignoring cyclist dismount signs. DaveC on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231354 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:47:39 +0000 DaveC 231354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CYCLISTS DISMOUNT? When I see a CAR DRIVERS GET OUT AND PUSH, then I'll take heed of these lazy signs. wingpig on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231353 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:30:18 +0000 wingpig 231353@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <blockquote>"Holyrood, cutting from the front of the parliament through the little passageway next to the car park entrance, to come out next to Dynamic Earth."</blockquote> The only time there were "NO CYCLING" or "DISMOUNT" signs on this bit was when the path was narrowed when they were adding the new entrance lobby. Even Cyclestreets will route you through there. DaveC on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231352 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:28:41 +0000 DaveC 231352@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I imagine all these pavement cyclists are on Shared Use Paths (SUP, Copyright), where unless you know to look for the litle blue curcle sign, you'll just assume they are pavement cyclists. newtoit on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231350 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:21:15 +0000 newtoit 231350@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Reflecting, I've been known to do it in a few places: - Holyrood, cutting from the front of the parliament through the little passageway next to the car park entrance, to come out next to Dynamic Earth. It avoids the need to deal with the roundabouts in the park. - Pleasance: steep hill with cars very close having just accelerated to get through the lights. Not much fun on the road. - Kirk Brae: see above mgj on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231348 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:58:43 +0000 mgj 231348@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ +1 for Thirlestane Road. I was working in my front garden yesterday and counted about 10 an hour, most going pretty slowly, but one or two pelting along. I've been struck as a pedestrian before, and also nearly hit as I wheeled my bike out my front gate. chdot on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231287 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:52:15 +0000 chdot 231287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "A segregated bike lane would link these up nicely and encourage families (and other people) to cycle down to the beach." Yep. CEC didn't even plan that as a Family Network route, even though it's well used and 'obvious'. davidsonsdave on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231285 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:46:46 +0000 davidsonsdave 231285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I know of one cyclist who uses the pavement on Silverknowes Road from the Golf Course to the Boardwalk Beach Club on a very regular basis. Some drivers use this shore route as a bypass to West Granton Road and drive 60mph (and beyond) on this 30mph road. Silverknowes Road is very wide and runs between NCN1 and the Cramond Foreshore. A segregated bike lane would link these up nicely and encourage families (and other people) to cycle down to the beach. acsimpson on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231263 Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:01:55 +0000 acsimpson 231263@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Maybury Road has a steady stream of pavement cyclists. Who can blame them as cars often come up the hill at 60 despite it being a 40 limit. I'll confess to being one of them in the uphill direction. It would be easy for the council to add segregated lanes to it and complete the link fro. The NCN 1 to the Gyle. wangi on "Pavement cyclists - where are they?" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16894#post-231262 Mon, 19 Sep 2016 23:48:22 +0000 wangi 231262@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Seafield Rd toward Leith, after the shared use bit is a big cycling on pavement area. I'm assuming a lot who do it learnt to cycle in countries where it was allowed anyway, plus that's why they tend to cycle to the right too.