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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: How are your extremities today?</title>
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<title>cb on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;'Twas 4 degrees warmer this morning (on my kitchen window sill).  I was working at home yesterday so I've still not had a sub-zero commute yet this winter.
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<title>Min on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I didn't feel so cold today, my feet were fine but strangely I have noticed that the fingers of my left hand - the hand where the fingers of my glove DON'T have holes in - are getting cold but my right ones aren't? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Those gloves have been very annoying-they are black with a white stripe down the little finger. The black material is an excellent insulator and has kept three fingers and my thumb lovely and warm. The white material is complete rubbish.
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<title>kaputnik on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Wore the fluo sealskinz gloves today with the icebreaker liners. I think this morning was slightly warmer than yesterday (even though I was on the road an hour earlier) but my hands definitely took longer to get initially cold and then warmed back up quicker.
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Have still had the shorts on from time to time, but mainly into the terrible trackies. CRC socks and shirt arrived today, not a moment too soon
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<title>chdot on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Think I need to get a lock washer.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If the crank has worked completely loose, chances are that the hole is no longer square enough to stay on, so you might need a new crank.
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<title>Stepdoh on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;again absolutely fine on the clothing department, think I've got my kit just right this year. Again mechanically all wrong, with my crank arm coming loose, then off as I tried to get to a garage.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There are few things funnier looking than someone still clipped in with a crank arm flapping about off thier shoe.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;REALLY tightened it this time thanks to the nice chap at the Classic Car Club. Think I need to get a lock washer.
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<title>wingpig on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;My feet go straight from cold-on-the-outside-but-comfortable-on-the-inside to way-too-hot-and-sweaty at the slightest provocation. Goreskin shoes and normal thin ankle socks are doing me OK at the moment (and, unlike previous years, are staying dry in the wet) but I'll probably switch to thicker and longer socks by January, though I quite like the wee cold gap between leg-warmers and shoes. My leg muscles seem to generate huge amounts of heat, a pain in the summer when I still need to wear outer baggies to carry things in but a boon in the winter when they keep the rest of me warm as long as they're moving, whether walking or cycling. Conversely, my hands become painful when cold, though when walking they can just go in my pockets.
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<title>chdot on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;img src=&#34;http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1378/5181333208_a43f38fa1f_z.jpg&#34;&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Cold again. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Watch out for the &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/understanding/frosthollows.shtml&#34;&#62;frost hollows&#60;/a&#62;. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Cold feet - dampness must be an issue, unwicked sweat or external water (usually rain) must be key factors. So 'good' socks. Various mentions above about thickness and materials. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Mention has also been made of circulation. Presumably this has heart and efficient bloodflow factors. But what about warm legs?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If I want to make sure I keep warm I put on my waterproof trousers which also have a liner, so not just 'plastic bags'. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Reference have been made to people still cycling in shorts. Do they have wonderful circulation, amazing socks or cold feet?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Any (medical) doctors on here?
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<title>kaputnik on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;weather for tomorrow morning looks same as it was today. I shall dig out the dayglo sealskins and give them a shottie in the cold and report back on findings.
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<title>gembo on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Liz - hmmm - the sealskinz and gore gloves have a wicking layer first, then the waterproof membrane then the material to keep you warm.  That is the theory. IN practice it does appear to be a sales pitch rather than a true fact.   I had a pair of leather motorbike gloves with cotton lining, a bit chunky - took a while to dry but hands rarely wet or cold.  I am skeptical on waterproof anything as I am a big sweater.  THus the more waterproof the garment is, the less breathable it is and I become quite damp.  I was considering a PRotective Qashi jacket which claims to be both highly waterproof and highly breathable but I remain very doubtful and unwilling to spend the money, even with 15% off in EBC at mo.  Maybe I will win the competiton and get one with the prize money.  I am a bit skeptical about my chances in the comp.given my overall skepticism about waterproof kit.
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<title>Claggy Cog on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;On discussing handwear at the weekend with several others, it is felt that waterproof materials although they may be windproof too tend to retain moisture when you get hot and sweaty and then you hands start to chill more and more.  Cheap fleecy type of gloves or plain windstoppers with a merino wool pair of liners or some other breathable thin liners were thought the best option. Personally I wear windstoppers and merino liners (I would like to try some silk liners) and that usually keeps out the cold.  Like your footwear if you gloves are a tight fit it affects the blood circulation and your extremities will feel the cold more.  Wet is a different problem altogether but I do put my gloves though the wash with my jackets with waterproofer, and it does seem to help.  However, the fleecy gloves dry faster and the moisture wicks faster with the heat from you hand in them rather than that &#34;boil in the bag&#34; effect with waterproof materials.
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;ThermaJock stayed put through rigorous movement.&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;lol!
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;thumbs cold today&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;sealskinz gloves ok but bad in rain - soak up the water.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;gore quite good gloves but still need liner&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;TBC sold me Gore tights (bib long) last winter - they really work&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;sealskinz socks, top of their range, both left feet are toastie and waterproof to an extent
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<title>kaputnik on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;my &#60;em&#62;extremities&#60;/em&#62; were fine on the way home. The rest of me was over-hot and uncomfortably sweaty :(
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<title>ruggtomcat on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Shouldn't have read this before going out at 1pm, my extremities were *hot* and I removed midlayer, gloves and headgear by 2 miles in! Terrible day in traffic tho :( argey bargey horrible drivers stupid cyclists.
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<title>spitfire on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Not too bad considering.&#60;br /&#62;
But my Bone Dry gloves were dissapointingly cold last year so I opted for some thermal undergloves (feels a bit stupid buying underwear for my fingers but very useful)&#60;br /&#62;
Ordered socks from chainreaction cycles and a logn sleeve base layer vest but got lost in post... grrrr..
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<title>Stepdoh on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;What with your kidney warmer and your thermojock, newspapers shoved down your front, your lobster like mittens and cute little booties.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Who says cycling ain't chic.
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<title>kaputnik on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;a kidney-warmer&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;a double whiskymac?
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<title>Arellcat on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;I got black reflective Alturas last year ... was debating the Sealskinz on basis that they'd be more comfortable flexible.&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My usual cold weather gloves are Altura Nightvisions, which are lovely and flexible, fairly waterproof, with padded palms and a decent storm cuff.  But I'm not sure my skin isn't reacting to the lining, which is why I'm trying the Sealskinz.  The fluo yellow is jolly bright until the sun (and thus any UV) goes down, but in the dark I've always worn reflective yellow wrist bands to make my signalling more obvious.  The woollen Sealskinz fabric does feel very nice.  My main problem is a little bit of Reynaud's which doesn't require temperatures to reach freezing.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Edit: and in any case, I bought the 'skinz because they were in a sale.  I didn't realise until today that they make two dozen different gloves, some with neoprene outers and things.  Your mileage may vary.
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<title>chdot on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;The middle's not an extremity&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good point!
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<title>chdot on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;the buff has to stay firmly below the nose line&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Oxygen mask?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Would help with the higher routes to work...
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<title>wingpig on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The middle's not an extremity, though one of my wife's pals reportedly has/had a kidney-warmer (for when she felt cold sitting in the office, though she also cycles so presumably also used it for that), though I don't know whether it was a home-made woollen thing or a shop-bought fancy technical neoprene job.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I remember cycling publications talking about 'newspapers for the descent' in the early nineties when I briefly glanced at them when researching getting my first proper bike. Never tried it, but I assume modern techytextiles had done away with the need?
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<title>chdot on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Have you never suffered from a drafty middle?&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Suppose it depends what you eat.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Though, back on topic, my mother always told me to keep my shirt tucked in...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I believe newspaper might help -&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jul/20/tour-de-france-2010-stage-16-contador-schleck&#34;&#62;The yellow jersey group hits the summit, with several riders taking sheets of newspaper from bystanders to cover their chests and prevent themselves from getting a chill on the descent.&#60;/a&#62;&#34;
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<title>kaputnik on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Alas as someone who has to have glasses on to see (I don't like the concept of contacts) I can never enjoy the simple pleasure of a warm face unless I want steamed up glasses - the buff has to stay firmly below the nose line
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<title>Min on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Have you never suffered from a drafty middle? Lucky.
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<title>chdot on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;my middle felt drafty&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Interesting concept.
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<title>Min on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;LOL. I just pull a buff up over my face. It might be thin but your breath soon warms your face up.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Head and feet were cold this morning. I also wished I had taken more time to find my bib tights since my middle felt drafty.
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<title>rosscbrown on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Maybe something like these: &#60;a href=&#34;http://en.fotolia.com/id/10249073&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://en.fotolia.com/id/10249073&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But with the nose section made out of something warm...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Edit: If anyone else is interested in such a stylish solution to the &#34;cold nose, warm face&#34; problem we could perhaps set up a social enterprise to manufacture them.
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<title>chdot on "How are your extremities today?"</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Not sure how to fix that&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;ThermalNosewear (™)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Or a CriminalSpecial (™) balaclava.
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Toes were cold.  Even with two paris of socks - I think I might need to look into some high-tech socks.  Mostly fine though, stripping off at one point.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The only other issues I had was the bridge of my nose getting uncomfortably cold.  Not sure how to fix that as the rest of my nose and face was comfortable.
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