http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Today's rubbish road safety campaign en Sun, 17 May 2026 19:49:30 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232109 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:34:53 +0000 chdot 232109@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, don't know who did what but the CEC tweet has been deleted! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232107 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:14:06 +0000 Stickman 232107@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gavin Corbett:</p> <p><em>@gavincorbett</p> <p>Thanks for alerting me to the fact that city council had initially backed this campaign. It is not now doing so.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232064 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:53:29 +0000 chdot 232064@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Surprised/shocked at this -</p> <p>"</p> <p>We're pleased to support this important cycle safety campaign #THINK! </p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/780328332537757696" rel="nofollow">https://mobile.twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/780328332537757696</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232062 Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:46:53 +0000 fimm 232062@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I liked Callum Skinner's contribution to the Twitter exchange linked to above:<br /> <em>"have @BBC_TopGear been making cycle safety videos again?"</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232045 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 19:32:09 +0000 crowriver 232045@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As I opined on Twyttar earlier, this is total victim blaming. The real danger is drivers who overtake cyclists then turn across their path. Happened to me twice this week alone... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232044 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 19:07:33 +0000 Morningsider 232044@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just remember - when Governments (of all political persuasions and nations) claim record amounts of spending on cycling - this is what some of that cash is being spent on. An advert fundamentally saying:</p> <p>"Cyclists - stop flinging yourself under the wheels of HGVs!" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232034 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:44:44 +0000 I were right about that saddle 232034@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's well-meaning I suppose, but it does appear to both glamourise our deaths and to suggest that we sould keep out of the line of gunfire rather than stop the shooting. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232033 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:27:44 +0000 chdot 232033@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Boardman/status/780308121721925632" rel="nofollow">https://mobile.twitter.com/Chris_Boardman/status/780308121721925632</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-232032 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:21:59 +0000 chdot 232032@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/twitter-reacts-governments-desparately-misguided-cycle-safety-campaign-video-286550" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/twitter-reacts-governments-desparately-misguided-cycle-safety-campaign-video-286550</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231997 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:47:44 +0000 algo 231997@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How on earth did this ever get signed off? I completely agree with Sally - it seems the point of the film is to advise against cycling furiously up the inside of lorries while moving, which hardly ever happens - it's absurd. If it had been a film to demonstrate graphically the dangers of filtering up the inside of stationary left-turning lorries, then perhaps I at least would have understood. The whole thing is reprehensible. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231989 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:15:15 +0000 Ed1 231989@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I find it confusing the way the cowboy cuts in the first time I sore it with the piano falling I assumed it was advertising before it started. I think would be better if was no clips just someone cycling then getting crushed by the lorry. It looks like a student project with too many gimmicks used. The music suggests something is going to happen, it would better if someone was cycling along with the beachboys playing and the accident creates a shock. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231988 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:14:06 +0000 chdot 231988@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>British Cycling, the Bicycle Association, and Cycling UK have all condemned the Department for Transport's THINK cycle safety campaign which was launched earlier today.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/think-again-cycling-organisations-tell-dft-s-road-safety-pr-team/020128" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/think-again-cycling-organisations-tell-dft-s-road-safety-pr-team/020128</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231987 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:06:19 +0000 Min 231987@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think all the hilarious comedy whoopsies all throughout the video are pretty sick. Are cyclists being crushed by lorries funny? :-/ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231975 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:29:58 +0000 sallyhinch 231975@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Quite apart from the fact that it's not that clear what is going on - seriously, how many cyclists actually undertake moving lorries like that? The only time I ever see cyclists risk getting left hooked is when lorries are stopped in traffic and they move up the inside (to get to the nice ASL someone's helpfully painted in the lorry's blind spot, but that's a matter for another day). So if you're going to target any unsafe behaviour, target the one that actually happens </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231973 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:14:11 +0000 ih 231973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think it's clear that the truck overtakes before turning..but</p> <p>how did we ever get to the point where it is considered acceptable or an excuse for any driver making a turn to do so without being able to see what they are turning across? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231972 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:13:00 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 231972@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is the message if anyone overtakes you then as a cyclist you must hang back just in case they are a muppet. A guy in a car done that to me on Saturday and had the cheek to toot at me instead of waiting behind me. I must confess to verbally pointing out his driving skills! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231970 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:08:04 +0000 Cyclingmollie 231970@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose I can sort of see what they are trying to do. Reading posts on this forum about today's bad cycling and experiencing appalling driving while cycling I think there's a case to be made for trying to fill the imagination gap that some people have regarding the potential outcomes of their behaviour. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231967 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:59:31 +0000 Baldcyclist 231967@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The video is terrible, there isn't enough of the interaction to judge whether the cyclist is 'going up the inside', or the lorry is 'overtaking and left hooking'.</p> <p>One is muppetry, the other is murder... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231961 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:47:34 +0000 tammytroot 231961@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Utterly shocking. Looks like the lorry is overtaking the cyclist and turning regardless. Basically the message seems to be, if you squish a person on a bike it is their own fault. They should get out of the way! ( though how is not entirely clear ). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16939#post-231941 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:42:47 +0000 sallyhinch 231941@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-think-campaign-to-improve-cyclists-safety" rel="nofollow">https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-think-campaign-to-improve-cyclists-safety</a></p> <p>Basically blames cyclists for getting left-hooked by a lorry which *appears* to be overtaking the cyclist and then immediately turning left without slowing (it's hard to tell with the jumpy editing).</p> <p>Actually they've got one thing right - if a lorry does do that to you, you've got about as much chance of avoiding it as you do avoiding a piano falling from the sky. </p>