http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: lots of lorries with poor visibility will be banned from London’s roads en Mon, 18 May 2026 05:19:36 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16968#post-241580 Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:20:00 +0000 crowriver 241580@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Question is, will the banned lorries end up somewhere else in the country? Or somewhere else in the world, for that matter?"</p> <p>Aye, they'll be snapped on the used vehicle market up by canny Scottish hauliers looking to save a few bob. :-( </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16968#post-241551 Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:44:50 +0000 slowcoach 241551@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today - "Consultation launched on how a Direct Vision Standard can be used to reduce road danger across London" <a href="https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2017/january/tfl-takes-next-step-to-removing-dangerous-lorries">tfl-takes-next-step-to-removing-dangerous-lorries</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16968#post-232570 Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:44:18 +0000 Ed1 232570@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I get 10.13 for both pedestrians and cyclists combined and 14.5 more likely to kill cyclists </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16968#post-232568 Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:27:00 +0000 gibbo 232568@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Based on the stats quoted in the story, per mile driven, lorries are 29 times as likely to kill a cyclist than other traffic. </p> <p>And that 29 isn't a constant, it's an average.</p> <p>One could assume that the difference between a category 0 and a category 5 could be 3 or 4 times.</p> <p>In which case, it's possible category 0 lorries could be 80+ times more likely to kill than other traffic.</p> <p>Totally unacceptable - especially given how long lorries with sensors have been available. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16968#post-232559 Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:40:06 +0000 LivM 232559@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, but won't you think of the poor lorries?<br /> Quote: "But the Road Haulage Association's chief executive Richard Burnett believes the proposal is an "imposition of unnecessary rules on haulage firms".</p> <p>"He said: "Demonising lorries is unfair. Lorries, including construction vehicles, play a vital part in the economic life of London. Without them the capital's businesses would grind to a standstill." "<br /> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37515940" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37515940</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16968#post-232557 Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:33:06 +0000 neddie 232557@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It's a good start that should force change for the better. Not sure why they need to wait 4 years though?</p> <p>Question is, will the banned lorries end up somewhere else in the country? Or somewhere else in the world, for that matter? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16968#post-232556 Fri, 30 Sep 2016 13:28:10 +0000 wingpig 232556@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/30/lorries-face-london-ban-plans-improve-safety-cyclists" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/30/lorries-face-london-ban-plans-improve-safety-cyclists</a></p> <p><em>"Khan’s plans, immediately welcomed by cycling groups, will give construction trucks and other HGVs a star-based safety rating from zero to five, based on the amount of vision the driver has. </p> <p>By January 2020, those with a zero rating – primarily construction trucks with a high cab and big clearance under the wheels – will be banned. By 2024, only trucks rated three stars – “good” – or above will be allowed in the city."</em> </p>