http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Why isn't Edinburgh in the top 20?.. en Sun, 31 May 2026 10:01:47 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16828 Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:06:03 +0000 Min 16828@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>St Mary Mead? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16827 Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:03:30 +0000 kaputnik 16827@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was Midsomer at number 1? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16824 Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:44:10 +0000 LaidBack 16824@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ha ha.. Taggart could be quite amusing in Swedish.</p> <p>To continue <em>off topic</em>...</p> <p>All about believability - and British cities still seem to be better backdrops for crime.<br /> Whatever people say about Taggart it is filmed in a city and suburbs which (sadly) have a murder rate of around 70 per year.<br /> In a survey of homicides per head of population it was at number 5 - behind cities in the Baltic states. London was around 10. Amsterdam is 7. </p> <p>Ystad (home of Wallander) didn't feature of course. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16823 Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:49:22 +0000 Arellcat 16823@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Ingen rör sig! Det har varit ett mord!" or something like that, but with a Glasgow accent.</p> <p>The eastern edge of Sheffield had some pretty impressive urban decay going, when I passed through a few years ago. I visited this summer but didn't have time to check out that part again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16822 Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:19:37 +0000 LaidBack 16822@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>What are British cities good at?</em></p> <p>Good backgrounds for crime films. No-one does urban dereliction better. Taggart would be nothing without Glasgow;-)<br /> <em>And don't even ask me what I think about Brannagh playing at being a Swedish detective!</em><br /> Krister Henriksson does it so much better. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16805 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:16:20 +0000 chdot 16805@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<br /> What are British cities good at? Spirited debate expected at tomorrow's Edinburgh Lecture by Greg Clark - <a href="http://bit.ly/bdUOSe" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bdUOSe</a><br /> Original Tweet: <a href="http://twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/4562165704949760" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/4562165704949760</a> </p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16744 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:53:36 +0000 chdot 16744@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"urban centres that we've heard good things about"</p> <p>That rules out Edinburgh for a while... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16742 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:50:27 +0000 Morningsider 16742@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A nice rigorous survey from "Monocle Magazine" (!?). How do they choose the top 25, according to the magazine:</p> <p>"Each year we send researchers to urban centres that we've heard good things about, or that have been included in previous surveys" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16735 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:48:09 +0000 chdot 16735@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I'm sure that was one of the key reasons the Council had for going ahead with the tram."</p> <p>Quite likely - even if only subliminally. </p> <p>Apart from the actualities of the route and the management/delivery of 'Edinburgh's Tram', the council failed to understand that to become 'more like other European cities' more had to be done to encourage walking and cycling and reduce motor traffic - at least on central roads. </p> <p>Some of this was in the package that might have been 'afforded' if the Congestion Charge vote had been "yes". </p> <p>It wasn't - partly because it was a bad scheme (two cordons with all sorts of potential anomalies), partly because the council didn't really have a good track record on 'doing transport'...</p> <p>A "no" vote was pretty inevitable when the question was seen as 'should drivers pay more'. </p> <p>Ken Livingston didn't need a referendum. After the event it's been suggested that Edinburgh needn't have had one either but merely 'demonstrate support' for the idea. Mmm. </p> <p>So after the "no" it wasn't really a question of 'think again', it was more like 'scale back the fluffy stuff and keep the hard' (tram lines). Only for that to be further scaled back and now an International lack of money for spending on the public. </p> <p>Budget day tomorrow, money for another bridge, no more money for trams, <em>perhaps</em> something for "sustainable transport" and?? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16732 Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:26:28 +0000 PS 16732@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Because Edinburgh doesn't have a tram (yet...?)? [I'm only half joking - That usually counts for something in these sorts of surveys/league tables. I'm sure that was one of the key reasons the Council had for going ahead with the tram. Of course, spending significantly less on making the cycle provision considerably better might be an alternative way up the tables, but...]</p> <p>I was in Munich a couple of weeks ago - it looked like a great city for cycling: loads of cycle lane provision, lots of people of all ages cycling, and flat as a pancake. [Loads of trams as well, incidentally.] </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16717 Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:47:59 +0000 Arellcat 16717@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why isn't Edinburgh in the top 20? House prices, probably. :-(</p> <p>More intruigingly, the top 20 doesn't include a single place within the UK. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16715 Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:23:24 +0000 chdot 16715@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>" twenty out of?"</p> <p>The number of "world class" "iconic" cities on the planet... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16714 Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:20:05 +0000 ruggtomcat 16714@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>ya, twenty out of? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16712 Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:11:04 +0000 LaidBack 16712@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why isn't Amsterdam in the top 20?</p> <p>Gothenburg is good too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1697#post-16701 Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:51:35 +0000 chdot 16701@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/11/worlds-most-liveable-cities-2010.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.copenhagenize.com/2010/11/worlds-most-liveable-cities-2010.html</a> </p>