http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: New canal bridge (Glasgow) en Tue, 19 May 2026 18:42:28 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-295213 Wed, 07 Nov 2018 21:10:14 +0000 gembo 295213@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Out by Asda </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-295189 Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:17:57 +0000 cb 295189@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-46044887">Only click here if you are not crowriver</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-234187 Mon, 17 Oct 2016 23:35:16 +0000 chdot 234187@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/40m-canal-flood-plan-to-help-glasgow-expand-1-4259530" rel="nofollow">http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/40m-canal-flood-plan-to-help-glasgow-expand-1-4259530</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233756 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 21:04:57 +0000 Frenchy 233756@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Very funny, you do make me laugh. Can I have an autograph? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233754 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:59:19 +0000 gembo 233754@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah frenchy but you should see him drinking gin and tonic </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233752 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:52:37 +0000 Frenchy 233752@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I haven't. But surely he's only, but exactly, sonic unless he's travelling with relatives. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233751 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:30:02 +0000 gembo 233751@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@frenchy have you heard of David Mach? He is supersonic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233657 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:24:41 +0000 Frenchy 233657@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>The artist is perhaps a little over exposed? </em></p> <p>Perhaps. I had no idea who he was until yesterday, though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233656 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:18:16 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 233656@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like Lichentstein, my wife doesn't, I saw the Lichtensteins that were at the Modern Art Gallery, I was underwhelmed, I continue to enjoy them on a small scale. I'm right. And so is my wife. Art is funny. Art is entirely personl. No-one is right or wrong about what they like, because they like it. I prefer brunettes, others prefer blondes, neither is right or wrong. You can't 'choose' what to like (unless you're the kind of person who nods sagely at the little white placards proclaiming that the red splodge on a yellow background is reminiscent of the struggle for emancipation and brings to mind a parrot saying sausages).</p> <p>As it happens I really like the Kelpies (less so his other stuff), love the scale, love the design, love the engineering, and personally I <em>do</em> think they're art. But that's my opinion, others are welcome to disagree with it, as long as they don't think I'm somehow 'wrong'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233654 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:00:45 +0000 wingpig 233654@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One of the major advantages external-public-art-things have over stuff-in-galleries is that external-public-art-things don't have little white cards on a plinth or wall nearby. People can look at the things and think what they think of them in their own voice, without promptings by writings in symbological rhubarb language. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233649 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:11:13 +0000 I were right about that saddle 233649@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>pandering to popular prejudices about art exemplified by ...Vettriano's retrospective</em></p> <p>I trust most people to stand in front of any artwork and honestly judge whether and how they respond to it. Some exhibitions leave people thinking nothing more than 'well that was dull'. I was disappointed to miss the Vettriano. I wanted to see what the fuss is about.</p> <p>Also, if people respond to something I don't respond to that makes me curious about what I've missed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233647 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:51:51 +0000 Chug 233647@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I too like the train, and find it ironic that although it sits on the original s&amp;Dr route, it is now hemmed in by the a66 Darlington bypass with nary a rail line in sight. (This section was rerouted through bank top station) I didn't know about the access fron Morrison's though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233642 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 23:07:12 +0000 crowriver 233642@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Are you saying that if people like something different to you then they are wrong?"</p> <p>No I'm not. I do think that the Kelpies should never have been built however.</p> <p>In many people's eyes that opinion makes me an elitist. Fine, I'm an elitist. Quite happy to be one, if it means I don't have to like the creations of Scott, Vettriano, etc. </p> <p>It seems to me that the kind of pandering to popular prejudices about art exemplified by the Kelpies, or Vettriano's retrospective at Kelvingrove, has its equivalents in the political sphere. Pandering to popular sentiment and prejudice can lead to many unfortunate consequences... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233641 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 22:58:23 +0000 Arellcat 233641@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like The Kelpies for their enormity, and I particularly like Andy Scott's <em>Heavy Horse</em> because it's a horse, but overall I think I prefer David Mach's <em>Train</em>.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/oq3kQn"><img src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3925/14711901745_7cd7d75775_n.jpg"></a><br /> <a href="https://flic.kr/p/oq3kQn">Brick streak</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233638 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 21:52:57 +0000 wee folding bike 233638@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I like how both the Wheel and the Kelpies encourage people to go to the canals.</p> <p>We could get back a lot more Monklands canal. Coatbridge Asda encroaches onto the original path a wee bit but hardly any of the rest is built on till the M8. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233632 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:33:06 +0000 gembo 233632@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kelpies look good when you catch sight of them on round the forth at skinflats. You can walk inside them and wally salhab made a corking time lapse film of their construction. The artist is perhaps a little over exposed? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233629 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:26:51 +0000 neddie 233629@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kelpies quite good thanks to impressive scale. Other similar Andy Scott stuff pleasant enough to look at, but not jaw-droppingly amazing.</p> <p>It could be worse. It could be a lot worse. It could be this:<br /> <img src="http://www.naturespic.com/i/21694TS36_w.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233628 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 20:26:35 +0000 gembo 233628@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Jack hoggan was a mining engineer, according to wiki which also cites him as a bingo caller</p> <p>Girlfriend gave him paints for his 21st</p> <p>Moved to Edinburgh in 1987, I perhaps drank in same pubs, art school rejected his portfolio. 1988 his wife left him (not sure his sexual textual politics tip top) changed name to mother's maiden name (his dad took his paper round money off him). 1989 submitted paintings to the RSA which sold first day and things snowballed </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233625 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:53:49 +0000 Stickman 233625@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The Kelpies are a visitor attraction that attract visitors (and lots of them). If being popular and giving pleasure to people is a bad thing then I don't know quite how to respond to that. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016&page=2#post-233624 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:36:09 +0000 Wilmington's Cow 233624@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<em>... but he gets it right about both Scott's Kelpies and the work of Vettriano</em>"</p> <p>How boring a world it would be if we were all supposed to like the same things and had no right to hold a personal preference. He gets it <em>right</em> for his preference, and your preference. Are you saying that if people like something different to you then they are <em>wrong</em>? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233622 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:10:01 +0000 crowriver 233622@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I know a few folk here like the Kelpies. I know quite a few folk socially that like them too. Well, I don't.</p> <p>It's not often I agree with Jonathan Jones but he gets it right about both Scott's Kelpies and the work of Vettriano:</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2014/apr/22/andy-scott-kelpies-sculpture-falkirk-scotland" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2014/apr/22/andy-scott-kelpies-sculpture-falkirk-scotland</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2011/feb/11/jack-vettriano-postcards-portrait-gallery" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2011/feb/11/jack-vettriano-postcards-portrait-gallery</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233621 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:09:25 +0000 gembo 233621@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Bridge good as that bit of the canal is a pain to come off, cross road and go back up, given how excellent the path is out to Kirkintilloch.</p> <p>I prefer David Mach (curiously Facebook sent me two pictures of him at the weekend, one with a person In a gorilla costume) the third heid heading west on the M8 is still called Terry </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233620 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:42:20 +0000 crowriver 233620@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Previously it was the nearby Falkirk Wheel.."</p> <p>In 2015 it was the Forth Bridge (the original Victorian one). </p> <p>"Soon it will be that new bridge. "</p> <p>No doubt. Though I personally find the new road bridge less elegant a piece of engineering than the Forth Road Bridge, and not a patch on the uniqueness of the Forth Bridge itself. If the QC becomes a symbol of Scotland what does it tell us?</p> <p>Motorways, motorways, MOTORWAYS. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233618 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:17:49 +0000 chdot 233618@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"populist political symbol of Scotland itself"</p> <p>Previously it was the nearby Falkirk Wheel..</p> <p>Soon it will be that new bridge. (Not the one this thread has drifted from!)</p> <p>Though if DT wins, perhaps it will be an offshore wind farm. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233617 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 18:13:53 +0000 chdot 233617@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And the gardens too apparently -</p> <p><a href="http://www.scottish-places.info/features/featurefirst90464.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scottish-places.info/features/featurefirst90464.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233616 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:41:29 +0000 ih 233616@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot " Check the war memorial outside too -"</p> <p>I believe the whole building is the war memorial - possibly the only one of its kind in the UK. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233615 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:37:58 +0000 crowriver 233615@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I like the Kelpies a great deal, but for what it's worth I don't think they're actually artworks. More theatrical engineering."</p> <p>I find the scale too much, almost overwhelming. Technically they are well made, as you say the engineering is to be appreciated. What I find more disturbing is the seemingly 'iconic' status they have been bestowed with. They have also, since the last election, become a populist political symbol of Scotland itself...</p> <p><img src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/07/14/33EBFED900000578-3578170-image-m-59_1462629108566.jpg"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233614 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:28:26 +0000 chdot 233614@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I've heard that's a good collection"</p> <p>Ok cafe. </p> <p>Check the war memorial outside too -</p> <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8550/29631555434_3b8e2de053.jpg"></p> <p>Different generation of public art. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233613 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:12:43 +0000 I were right about that saddle 233613@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Stickman</p> <p>Stop public funding of everything <em>except</em> art. Different problem solved. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17016#post-233612 Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:12:04 +0000 Stickman 233612@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Frenchy</p> <p>Could be expensive, especially when I put in my application for funding on my conceptual piece which entails living in luxury for the rest of my life in order to make a statement about the wealth gap. </p>