http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: NEPN improvements - consultation en Sun, 05 Apr 2026 17:48:23 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367527 Thu, 13 Apr 2023 14:49:33 +0000 le_soigneur 367527@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Google maps lists:<br /> <blockquote>Beaufort Property Company<br /> 29 Groathill Road South, Edinburgh, Scotland, EH4 2LS </blockquote><br /> so I guess an Email to CEC Estate Dept<br /> <a href="mailto:estates.research@edinburgh.gov.uk.">estates.research@edinburgh.gov.uk</a><br /> might find out if they have been permitted &amp; whether planning was needed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367514 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 21:27:15 +0000 neddie 367514@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>How do we find out? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367511 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 19:51:58 +0000 Frenchy 367511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Anyone know why the nearby flat developers have been allowed to encroach</em></p> <p>Question one should possibly be: <em>Have</em> the developers been allowed to do this, or have they just done it anyway? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367505 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:30:57 +0000 le_soigneur 367505@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Fencing at Craigleith is probably for the same reason as the NEPN fencing at Ferranti/Leonardo Crew Toll - to defend against the neds using the height of the embankment to rain stones/bottles at windows of the flats below. </p> <p>The Ferranti fence is however set back from the tarmac by 1m.</p> <p> For Craigleith/Groathill, the developers seem to have been able to put it on CEC ground. And I don't see any planning permission, which would be needed for any permanent structure over 2m high. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367497 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 20:47:47 +0000 acsimpson 367497@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>School holidays are often silly season for this kind of behaviour. The teachers deserve far more credit than they get for the rest of the school year. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367491 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 17:27:17 +0000 SF 367491@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I see there's another burnt out motor on the WoL bridge above Coltbridge Avenue, a people carrier this time after the burnt out hatchback around the new year.<br /> Seems like the neds have found a new location for their bonfires, seems a bit late in the year now to be warming your hands by a roaring fire though... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367443 Wed, 05 Apr 2023 17:09:40 +0000 14Westfield 367443@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Spotted these recently too and agree that they give and unpleasant feel by narrowing and darkening the path.</p> <p>They are now up to three layers of fence and seem incredibly over the top.</p> <p>I really can’t see a resins for them to be added - we have had a ‘normal’ brifldge here for decades by now. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367442 Wed, 05 Apr 2023 15:21:31 +0000 neddie 367442@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Location is near the junction at Craigleith:</p> <p><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/DSdWio3HtSdSJ9nk9" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/maps/DSdWio3HtSdSJ9nk9</a></p> <p>Note that there's no fence shown on Google streetview </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367439 Wed, 05 Apr 2023 13:00:33 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 367439@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Struggling to place where these flats are, neddie </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-367432 Wed, 05 Apr 2023 10:36:13 +0000 neddie 367432@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone know why the nearby flat developers have been allowed to encroach on the Telfer path with a massive unfriendly and unsightly permanent-looking fence?</p> <p>Doesn't quite make it on to the tarmac but certainly feels the path has been narrowed and less "handlebar room"</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2orbs5o"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52793492678_6287430565.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2orbs5o">Untitled</a></p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2orbs6f"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52793492728_f8ef4d5e0d.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2orbs6f">Untitled</a></p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2orapcx"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52793287889_93085094b2.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/2orapcx">Untitled</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-302774 Fri, 08 Mar 2019 08:50:05 +0000 edinburgh87 302774@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Watch out, there's a considerable amount of run off ice at the bottom of the off ramp immediately before the red bridge eastbound. Will melt off in the next few hours but could be an unwelcome surprise. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-302737 Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:41:32 +0000 LivM 302737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The rain in the last few days has highlighted the massive improvement in drainage on the section of NEPN through Drylaw... and the desperate need to do the same on adjoining sections. There were multiple puddles full width on my commute over the last couple of days, particularly bad beside Drylaw park and just by Telford Drive bridge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-302736 Thu, 07 Mar 2019 15:40:01 +0000 LivM 302736@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>With diversion signs for Pedestrians but none for Cyclists /pedant :D </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-302703 Thu, 07 Mar 2019 09:38:25 +0000 wingpig 302703@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Closure has started. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-302235 Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:52:10 +0000 themightysimmonite 302235@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presumably removal of all the signs draped over the sides wishing Maureen a Happy 40th birthday &amp; Derek all the best for his retirement! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-302233 Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:21:31 +0000 wingpig 302233@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presumably resurfacing and painting? Probably nothing as useful as containing the mud on the downslope/corner to the south. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-302231 Wed, 27 Feb 2019 21:03:32 +0000 LivM 302231@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Signs on both sides of the Red Bridge (over Ferry Road) this evening saying work starts 6 March. Anyone know what? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-265269 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 14:58:26 +0000 ih 265269@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A very poorly maintained aspect of the NEPN is the overgrowth of bushes and grass at the edges in many locations. It really does restrict the width of the path significantly. I keep meaning to go out with a spade and at random points clear the overgrowth back, but I don't own a spade! Even when the verges are cut, the path isn't cleared to the original edge. Some sections of the Roseburn path from Roseburn to roughly Craigleith have very decayed and dangerous edges.</p> <p>@crowriver. St Mark's path is pretty good from the wooden bridge to Broughton Road (used to be a disgusting dog toilet), but the section from the bridge to the FC carpark is very bad. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-265265 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 14:35:19 +0000 crowriver 265265@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"some access points are broken to unusable etc."</p> <p>The access at St Mark's Park/Warriston is shockingly poor: huge potholes in the tarmac, crumbling edges. Some of this is down to the "Craigroyston FC" car park going without maintenance, but it's a very well used access point ans should be sorted. The St Mark's path which leads to the toucan crossing at Bonnington Road is also shockingly poor.</p> <p>Hopefully some of the 900 grand will go to fixing these...</p> <p>Of course, if the Powderhall railway path were to be brought into operation, nowhere near as many folk would bother to use McDonald Road/St Mark's path... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-265260 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 13:17:03 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 265260@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hoping that previous posters thoughts of bollards being put in place are incorrect. The NEPN is a main commuter route for cyclists and part of it's attraction (for me)is that the bit I use is safe enough to be able to cycle at a reasonable speed at rush hour.</p> <p>If you stick in bollards and all other kinds of stuff to slow people down (without good reason IMO)all you will do is change it's use away from it's original purpose and some cycling commuters will stop using it.</p> <p>There are already some paths I don't use due to stupid speed restrictions that are unsafe being put in place. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071&page=2#post-265173 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:07:27 +0000 Colonies_Chris 265173@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Up at the D Mains end of the Drylaw path there are a couple of spots where the drainage needs fixed, and the path to the back of Tesco's needs surfaced (but there may be other issues there, it seems), and the rough path that links to Telford Drive could be surfaced. Apart from those, all small stuff, the only obvious major-ish improvement needed is a better access to Ravelston Dykes than the current steep and uneven and multiply-chicaned path. No way those could total up to nearly £1m. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265135 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 16:03:24 +0000 crowriver 265135@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Meanwhile the surface of the Restalrig railway path is slowly being broken up by tree roots so that parts of it are nearly unridable. Also a near permanent issue with surface flooding under Lochend Road bridge. So that's another half million to spend next year, then? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265134 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:42:01 +0000 steveo 265134@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They could start with proper drainage, not the half hearted attempt they made a couple of years ago. There are bits which are near perpetual swamp and the surface in some bits is borked, some access points are broken to unusable etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265132 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:32:43 +0000 Stickman 265132@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The entire east-west route has a budget of £6m. How one earth can they spend £1m on the NEPN? Are they planing to build new access points? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265130 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:17:13 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 265130@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If they put any bollards on the mainline NEPN, I would advocate 'citizen' removal.</p> <p>Spending 900k on already good infrastructure when there are only a handful of flood spots and any surfacing defects are mainly due to Cityfibre or other utilities doing a lousy reinstatement is ridiculous. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265129 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:07:22 +0000 neddie 265129@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don't get me wrong - I'm as angry as the next person that CEC are busy gold-plating stuff that's already good (the NEPN).</p> <p>They should instead be employing more staff on the AT team. £900k would pay for 15 staff for a year! (Assuming £30k salary and £60k total per staff costs including pension etc).</p> <p>There are only 4 staff on the active travel team at the moment.</p> <p>They should be getting on with the HARD and most-useful stuff first. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265125 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:00:34 +0000 crowriver 265125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gibbo, if that were true, then the Powderhall path would have been expedited as soon as the waste depot closed. I tend to go with nedd1e_h here: NEPN is "the path of least resistance" in more ways than one... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265124 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:45:29 +0000 gibbo 265124@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@nedd1e_h</p> <p><em>Because it's easy to do</em></p> <p>Alternative theory: Because it has no impact on driving. </p> <p>This is, over and over, where the council blinks. They talk the talk, but when it comes to taking away road space from drivers, it never gets beyond talk. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265122 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:26:15 +0000 davidsonsdave 265122@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@nedd1e_h I think a million was around the figure that was mentioned when I was speaking to the chap from the active travel team at the Craigleith junction the other week for the launch of their new signage.</p> <p>It's not all drainage and surfacing though - there was mention of bollards too! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17071#post-265115 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 13:46:33 +0000 neddie 265115@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If I am not wrong (and I sincerely hope I am wrong), they are spending £900k on the NEPN improvements (drainage, surfacing).</p> <p>Nine hundred thousand pounds. Nearly £1 million. That's over half the cycle budget.</p> <p><em>any idea why this one is being progressed first</em></p> <p>Because it's easy to do, shovel-ready. There aren't enough staff on the active travel team to cope with the workload. There's also an embargo on employing any more staff.</p> <p>So now CEC have a huge amount of budget to burn up. The other segregated stuff we've consultated on won't ready for construction until the next financial year, or the year after that, or... or never.</p> <p>And stuff like that is HARD. So let's put it on the back burner for a bit...</p> <p>RRRAAAAAAAAARGGGHH! </p>