http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Task force launched after cycle routes axed" (now with “Delivery Plan”) en Sat, 16 May 2026 09:35:59 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=4#post-311123 Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:38:30 +0000 chdot 311123@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/1907-Traffic-Orders-letter-to-Minister-FINAL.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/1907-Traffic-Orders-letter-to-Minister-FINAL.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=4#post-311004 Fri, 19 Jul 2019 09:30:55 +0000 I were right about that saddle 311004@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em><strong>Key achievements already delivered</strong></p> <p>Transport Scotland funded non-motorised user infrastructure is being delivered as part of projects including A9.....</em></p> <p>I was a motorised user of the A9 yesterday. Decent weather, school hols and nobody on the infrastructure in question. Why would anyone go near it? It's horrible.</p> <p><em>Transport Scotland will work with delivery partners and other Scottish Government policy areas including Health, Education, and Housing to identify joint opportunities to fund better infrastructure and facilities for walking and cycling.</em></p> <p>Key question: do they work with health and housing when they plan their dual carriageways?</p> <p><em>Sustrans will open a dialogue with Scottish Futures Trust around coordination of funding, and where opportunities are found, evaluation of the impact.</em></p> <p>OK I think we're done here. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=4#post-310997 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:16:34 +0000 crowriver 310997@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So it's not even a shared aspiration any more, just a shared vision. </p> <p>I mean, I have a vision of world peace, socialism for the poor instead of the rich, and restoring our environment so that nature can flourish. But, y'know... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=4#post-310994 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:36:39 +0000 acsimpson 310994@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is that the sort of strong public consultation used for roseburn or the your they used for the James centre?</p> <p>They should be abolishing of changing the TRO process as part of this rather than adding more layers of consultation. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=4#post-310993 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:33:41 +0000 chdot 310993@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>See also</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18145&amp;page=3&amp;replies=86#post-310963" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18145&amp;page=3&amp;replies=86#post-310963</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310991 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:31:35 +0000 chdot 310991@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“That sounds Nice”</p> <p>Or NiceWay? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310989 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:22:13 +0000 Arellcat 310989@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Transport Scotland and Sustrans will develop options to include maintenance costs as a match for priority active travel routes which are not fit for purpose and are in need of upgrading, through Places for Everyone funding.</em></p> <p>Maybe: Government will help pay to improve rubbish cycle routes, but only if LAs chip in too, especially the LAs that are basically bankrupt with crumbling roads and have their citizens paying to have their own bins emptied.</p> <p><em>conduct strong public consultation exercises and community engagement from the very start of design and planning</em></p> <p>Witness the posts from two years ago in this thread and compare with current position to see where strong public consultation gets you.</p> <p><em>key behaviour change messages</em></p> <p>That sounds Nice. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310988 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:15:48 +0000 chdot 310988@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That’s it. </p> <p>More disappointed than I had hoped. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310987 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:14:16 +0000 chdot 310987@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Transport Scotland and delivery partners will analyse the current activity and challenges in providing access to bikes and develop options and opportunities to expand this area.</p> <p>“</p> <p>Ask The Bike Station. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310986 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:09:29 +0000 chdot 310986@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yawn</p> <p>“</p> <p>2019-2020 shorter term actions</p> <p>Transport Scotland will revise all grant funding requirements to ensure the Fairer Scotland Duty is an explicit requirement.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310985 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:04:58 +0000 chdot 310985@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Might be better not to be TS -</p> <p>“</p> <p>2020 onwards longer term actions</p> <p>Transport Scotland will develop a cross portfolio working group with the Scottish Government/Transport Scotland policy teams and lead the development of a governance approach that will embed active travel principles in their policies and systems.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310984 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:02:34 +0000 chdot 310984@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Consider”</p> <p>“</p> <p>2019-2020 shorter term actions</p> <p>Transport Scotland will consider, with COSLA and delivery partners, appropriate governance for the active travel programme, providing scrutiny, assurance, challenge and policy and delivery join up across portfolios.</p> <p>“</p> <p>This’ll keep her occupied -</p> <p>“</p> <p>The Active Nation Commissioner will lead work to share best practices and embed active travel priorities across all areas of national and local government policy.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310983 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:59:42 +0000 chdot 310983@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Why?</p> <p>“</p> <p>2020 onwards longer term actions</p> <p>All delivery partners will develop strategies to increase private sector investment in behaviour change initiatives.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310982 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:58:28 +0000 chdot 310982@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>2019-2020 shorter term actions</p> <p>Transport Scotland will develop an active travel media campaign focusing on people, place and key behaviour change messages.</p> <p>Transport Scotland will continue to fund Living Streets work on bus/walking connectivity and support national rollout supported by Places For Everyone funding.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310981 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:56:47 +0000 chdot 310981@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Don’t understand the use of “balanced” -</p> <p>“</p> <p>4. Behaviour change</p> <p>Recommendation 4.1</p> <p>There must be investment in behaviour change programmes for the longer term, in order to normalise walking and cycling for everyday journeys, including walking to public transport venues as part of a multi-modal journey. These should be balanced and coordinated with infrastructure and place making, media campaigns and must include enforcement of road safety and parking legislation in favour of pedestrians and cyclists.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310980 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:52:07 +0000 chdot 310980@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting...</p> <p>“<br /> 2019-2020 shorter term actions</p> <p>Sustrans and Living Streets will give a demonstration of best practice delivery of community engagement and share their community engagement guidance.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310979 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:50:40 +0000 chdot 310979@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Key priority, delay -</p> <p>“</p> <p>Recommendation 3.2</p> <p>Delivery partners must ensure they conduct strong public consultation exercises and community engagement from the very start of design and planning. This must be inclusive and representative, using appropriate and innovative techniques that enable the target population to understand the project and processes and be properly involved. This will include community groups, businesses and Police Scotland and must follow the legislation in the Fairer Scotland Duty.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310978 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:48:26 +0000 chdot 310978@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Does this mean they have so far failed on “public realm” or making things look nice is more important than making them work??</p> <p>“</p> <p>Transport Scotland will continue to engage with larger public bodies e.g. NHS, Scottish Federation of Housing Associations and the Scottish Futures Trust to promote active travel infrastructure, with a greater focus on public realm.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310977 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:45:59 +0000 chdot 310977@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Transport Scotland will further develop its communications strategy to articulate the key national benefits of active travel.</p> <p>“</p> <p>Fab! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310976 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:40:31 +0000 chdot 310976@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is this a Freudian typo???</p> <p>“</p> <p>Transport Scotland is working with partners to promote the benefits of active travel as a prescription for better health, including initiatives with Wheelness and Green Health Partnership.</p> <p>“</p> <p>This -</p> <p>“</p> <p>Action plans are being implemented that are shaped around local health priorities including tackling health inequalities, and connect with current initiatives such as Realistic Medicine, social prescribing and public health reform. </p> <p>Each partnership draws on its sound knowledge of community needs, existing outdoor assets and green health activity, and adds value by identifying co-benefits. Funding support for each of the Green Health Partnerships is provided by SNH and Transport Scotland with additional support from national partners including Forestry Commission Scotland, NHS Health Scotland and sportscotland, Paths for All and TCV. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.nature.scot/professional-advice/contributing-healthier-scotland/our-natural-health-service/green-health-partnerships" rel="nofollow">https://www.nature.scot/professional-advice/contributing-healthier-scotland/our-natural-health-service/green-health-partnerships</a></p> <p>UPDATE, Sorry, my ignorance -</p> <p><a href="https://www.cyclinguk.org/wheelness-0" rel="nofollow">https://www.cyclinguk.org/wheelness-0</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310975 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:40:11 +0000 Morningsider 310975@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Must be some fancy new meanings for the terms "delivery" and "plan" that I am not aware of - as I can't see any evidence of either in this document. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310973 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:32:43 +0000 chdot 310973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is truly pathetic -</p> <p>“</p> <p>2020 onwards longer term actions</p> <p>Transport Scotland will look to include strategic active travel infrastructure projects in future transport infrastructure reviews.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310972 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:23:28 +0000 chdot 310972@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“should”</p> <p>“theme”</p> <p>“</p> <p>Recommendation 2.9<br /> The Strategic Transport Projects Review should include active travel as a theme for nationwide projects, for example the National Walking and Cycling Network.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310971 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:22:12 +0000 chdot 310971@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>2020 onwards longer term actions</p> <p>Delivery partners will continually monitor and evaluate the impact of active travel and other relevant strategies, and improvement work with local authorities.</p> <p>Active travel including multi-modal public transport will be a key component of Scotland’s 20 year transport strategy.</p> <p>Transport Scotland will monitor and evaluate the impact of the NTS on active travel.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310970 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:19:01 +0000 chdot 310970@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“must”!!</p> <p>“</p> <p> Recommendation 2.8<br /> The National Transport Strategy Review must deliver the sustainable travel hierarchy, prioritising walking and cycling. Active travel should be mainstreamed into Regional and Local Transport Strategies.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310968 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:13:34 +0000 chdot 310968@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Considered?</p> <p>“</p> <p>Recommendation 2.7<br /> A policy of reducing urban traffic and transferring carriageway space to active travel should be considered, including Workplace Parking Levy, road user charging and encouraging more car sharing.</p> <p>“ </p> <p>“</p> <p>Key achievements already delivered<br /> The sustainable transport hierarchy is established in the National Transport Strategy and urban traffic reduction and the reduction of road space for motor vehicles are established features in transport, planning and active travel strategies.</p> <p>“</p> <p>Really?</p> <p>Do LAs know... (apart from bits of CEC)? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310967 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 21:02:44 +0000 chdot 310967@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Enhance?</p> <p>“</p> <p>Recommendation 2.5<br /> There must be prominent and consistent national government and stakeholder support to enhance strong leadership at the local level to help make the often unpopular, but right decisions.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310966 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:58:42 +0000 chdot 310966@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>In brief -</p> <p>“need to be better resourced”</p> <p>“</p> <p>Recommendation 2.4<br /> National, regional and local ownership, planning and delivery of active travel projects between policy departments must be more coordinated, and include as a minimum, planning, environment, health and education departments within central and local governments. Regional Transport Partnerships need to be better resourced to address cross-boundary issues, in partnership with other stakeholders.</p> <p>“ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310965 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:55:36 +0000 chdot 310965@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I’m sure the people this was written for know what it means.</p> <p>“</p> <p>Transport Scotland and partners will continue to roll out Bike Life and investigate equivalent walking evidence, and other means of building a robust evidence base of public opinion for investment.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.sustrans.org.uk/bike-life" rel="nofollow">https://www.sustrans.org.uk/bike-life</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.sustrans.org.uk/media/2948/bike-life-edinburgh-2017.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.sustrans.org.uk/media/2948/bike-life-edinburgh-2017.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17109&page=3#post-310964 Thu, 18 Jul 2019 20:50:47 +0000 chdot 310964@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Since 2010 Cycling Scotland has measured progress annually against the Cycling Action Plan for Scotland’s shared vision that 10% of everyday journeys are by bike.</p> <p>“</p> <p>That’ll be former target SG recently admitted it wouldn’t meet (not even close). </p>