http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "Mayhem" (the new word for chaos) + added “shambles” en Tue, 07 Apr 2026 07:30:05 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-383287 Sun, 22 Feb 2026 00:09:36 +0000 Arellcat 383287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I will probably carry on not reading the EEN anyway, except for the occasional glance at the front cover whilst passing the chipwrappers rack in the supermarket.</p> <p>Or as the media might put it:</p> <p>Newspaper Owners Are Furious About This One Simple Trick To Keep Blood Pressure Low </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-383283 Sat, 21 Feb 2026 15:02:09 +0000 neddie 383283@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oh no, how are we going to read the EEN now?</p> <p><a href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-archive-today-after-site-executed-ddos-and-altered-web-captures/" rel="nofollow">https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-bans-archive-today-after-site-executed-ddos-and-altered-web-captures/</a></p> <p>The whole story is batshit crazy. TLDR, archive dot ph set up a personal attack against a blogger via the Captcha page. Now they are being blacklisted by Wikipedia! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-382993 Mon, 26 Jan 2026 15:21:57 +0000 EdinburghCycleCam 382993@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is "two roads" actually "several key routes"? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-382973 Sat, 24 Jan 2026 15:49:35 +0000 chdot 382973@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-braced-for-disruption-with-several-key-routes-closed-for-months-5488177" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-braced-for-disruption-with-several-key-routes-closed-for-months-5488177</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-382912 Mon, 19 Jan 2026 21:10:48 +0000 gembo 382912@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chDot, is your valley field street contact a Jambo? They were predicting Sewers just a bit too far east </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-382908 Mon, 19 Jan 2026 18:07:18 +0000 MediumDave 382908@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70ljnyz6xpo" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70ljnyz6xpo</a></p> <p>Beeb article is chill but I expect CHAOS and MAYHEM will be documented next week. </p> <p>Quite interested to see what the traffic effects of this work are, other than getting roasters hot under the collar. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-365546 Sat, 24 Dec 2022 18:50:23 +0000 nobrakes 365546@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>‘Tis the season to be joyful that I live in the sticks. I had to negotiate some cow poo on the back road today. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-365543 Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:39:08 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 365543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Unless you're walking or cycling, your journey will almost certainly take longer than usual today.”</p> <p>Even cycling, my journey took longer yesterday - took at least a few seconds longer to filter past the <strong>gridlock</strong> from Charlotte Sq (queue stretched back onto Queen St) and up Lothian Rd.</p> <p>Roadworks on Lothian Rd instead of double parked delivery vehicles outside the rubbish kebab shop were the proximate cause (along with an insane number of vehicles). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-365542 Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:05:01 +0000 chdot 365542@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Needs to be constant gridlock for change to occur“</p> <p>You being ironic or logical?</p> <p>Unfortunately logic is not enough. </p> <p>Plenty cities <em>have</em> much more gridlock than Ed. </p> <p>Needs actual measures to reduce traffic including closing roads, reallocating roadspace, increasing car storage charges, charging for entering the City, etc. </p> <p>MOST IMPORTANT </p> <p>Finding bolder politicians - CEC &amp; SG who don’t just think ‘motorists are voters’, ‘driving is normal, it’ll be fine when everything is electric’ etc. </p> <p>ALSO</p> <p>Can’t wait for ‘carrots’ - more trams, enforced buslanes, more cycle infrastructure. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-365541 Sat, 24 Dec 2022 10:24:31 +0000 gembo 365541@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>We should all steal some cars and then park them in the way across the city every day creating gridlock chaos everyday</p> <p>Then modal shift will happen</p> <p>As the intermittent journey that goes smoothly is the strongest reinforcer.</p> <p>Needs to be constant gridlock for change to occur </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-365540 Sat, 24 Dec 2022 09:53:20 +0000 chdot 365540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Something must be done!“</p> <p>Ironically, an arm of CEC putting these words on Twitter is progress!</p> <p>Not that it will make many people (any?) rethink their travel options! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-365539 Sat, 24 Dec 2022 07:49:31 +0000 edinburgh87 365539@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Unless you're walking or cycling, your journey will almost certainly take longer than usual today.” </blockquote></p> <p>Something must be done! &lt;/s&gt; </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-365536 Sat, 24 Dec 2022 00:15:59 +0000 chdot 365536@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Reporting the traffic chaos on Twitter, Edinburgh Travel News said: “Traffic's really busy right across Edinburgh and as you might reasonably expect, retail areas are particularly popular.</p> <p>Unless you're walking or cycling, your journey will almost certainly take longer than usual today.”</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-traffic-drivers-facing-severe-delays-in-edinburgh-as-christmas-traffic-builds-across-city-including-on-m90-and-at-fort-kinnaird-3965464" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/edinburgh-traffic-drivers-facing-severe-delays-in-edinburgh-as-christmas-traffic-builds-across-city-including-on-m90-and-at-fort-kinnaird-3965464</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364817 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 18:08:01 +0000 edinburgh87 364817@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Every chance, it looked like it started on a vehicle towards the back as the cab and cars loaded near the front looked untouched. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364810 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 14:42:00 +0000 LaidBack 364810@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@edinburgh87 possibly an EV fire? Same thing sank a large shop earlier in year.</p> <p><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsscotland/edinburgh-city-bypass-locked-down-as-huge-car-transporter-fire-halts-traffic/ar-AA14evP7#:~:text=Part%20of%20Edinburgh%27s%20city%20bypass%20has%20been%20locked,traffic%20is%20being%20diverted%20away%20from%20the%20carriageway.">Car transporter fire on bypass</a></p> <p>@Arellcat - velomobile acqua-fun (or not!). Faster than many buses though as reported by @ejstubbs .</p> <p>@fimm - train should avoid city Mayhem but just heard from @Dave on Mastodon that Easy Coast closed between Dunbar and Renton. He is heading to London. Airport still open though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364805 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 12:46:07 +0000 fimm 364805@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wow, and I thought I had problems getting through the city centre by train yesterday... I did wonder if I should have got off the train at Haymarket and cycled to Waverly, but maybe it is just as well that I did not...</p> <p>There were a lot of problems due to a broken down train this morning, but my failure to get from Livingston South to the office in an efficient manner was entirely self-inflicted. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364804 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 12:45:41 +0000 edinburgh87 364804@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This resurfacing exercise seems definitely to be dragging on for ages. We were still in the Elizabethan era when they started (and quickly stopped so the cortège could pass unhindered). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364803 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 12:31:26 +0000 ejstubbs 364803@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Malfunctioning temporary lights just after Dean Br leading to traffic going opposite directions trying to use the Northbound side of the road at the same time.</em></p> <p>There were reports of buses running over an hour late due to the mess on Queensferry Street and the overspill on to the surrounding streets. Trams were terminating at West End. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364801 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:31:18 +0000 gembo 364801@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Do not go down to muirhouse today in a car. The flood waters are lapping beneath the Red Bridge</p> <p>Bikes can get through </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364800 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:30:16 +0000 Arellcat 364800@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The torpedo is poor for filtering safely in traffic, and often poor for filtering at all, so I spend excessive amounts of time thinking like a car driver who additionally has to factor in distance and gradients. It's designed for long, flat, unbroken fietspads, not the ruinously tiring stop-start sprints between semi-permanent roadworks, nor the cratered gullies of Comiston Road cycle infrastructure awash with rain and leaf mulch. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364798 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:15:11 +0000 edinburgh87 364798@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@arrelcat - I must remember to exercise the same foresight! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364792 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 10:40:29 +0000 Arellcat 364792@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had the foresight to look on Google's traffic map before riding home yesterday. There were delays all over the place.</p> <p>I really didn't fancy getting stuck in Big Traffic, in pouring rain, for minutes on end again at the Myreside roadworks, so I diverted through Morningside and then discovered it was nose to tail all the way up towards Greenbank. Fairmilehead was also very busy, and the A720 a glorious Los Angeles-style snake of white and red lights in the dark. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-364791 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 09:58:42 +0000 edinburgh87 364791@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Quite the commute last night. Took short route (Crewe Toll &gt; Dalkeith via city centre). Malfunctioning temporary lights just after Dean Br leading to traffic going opposite directions trying to use the Northbound side of the road at the same time. Backed up up to Lothian Road bit it did make Lothian Rd nicer to ride to Melville Dr as a lot of the traffic that would usually occupy it was stuck on the Dean Br impasse. </p> <p>Unusually jammed between Gilmerton and Dobbies - car transporter on fire on the Bypass and traffic diverted. Wandered across field next to A772 to have a look. Looked full of presumably new cars, likely heading to the Fort. An expensive day for their insurer. Despite arguments elsewhere about the extent to which driving is necessary,still a bloody waste of resources for something with a 20 year lifespan to go up in smoke before even being used! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-357849 Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:15:42 +0000 Frenchy 357849@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today is the first day of a three week closure of Drum Street southbound for gasworks, so there are currently traffic jams on Old Dalkeith Road, Newtoft Street, Ferniehill Drive, Gilmerton Road etc.</p> <p>I walked from Old Dalkeith Road to Gilmerton crossroads, and counted the number of vehicles heading west. </p> <p>I counted 111 single-occupant vehicles (mostly cars, maybe 10 vans), 45 multiple-occupant private vehicles (almost all cars, one ambulance and a handful of vans), and one bus (one passenger). No cyclists, maybe 10 pedestrians.</p> <p>70% single-occupant vehicles.</p> <p>The entire traffic jam would have simply disappeared if the single-occupant drivers were walking, cycling or using public transport. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-352432 Sun, 04 Jul 2021 13:29:37 +0000 chdot 352432@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Residents fear the destruction of habitats for turtle doves and purple emperor butterflies, as well as traffic chaos, with enough houses planned to accommodate a town the size of Dover. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/04/its-tearing-us-all-apart-housing-plans-in-sussex-turn-nimby-against-nimby" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/04/its-tearing-us-all-apart-housing-plans-in-sussex-turn-nimby-against-nimby</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-318241 Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:56:20 +0000 crowriver 318241@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IIRC the real shambles, with blood running in the streets, used to be off Market Street, where Waverley station car park and council HQ are now. I'm sure someone can find the pre-railways map online... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=8#post-318232 Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:45:26 +0000 chdot 318232@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/edinburgh-shambles-city-just-goes-bad-worse-liam-rudden-1319956" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/edinburgh-shambles-city-just-goes-bad-worse-liam-rudden-1319956</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=7#post-315740 Mon, 14 Oct 2019 14:16:53 +0000 Morningsider 315740@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Arellcat - not too late to get that application in for headline writer at "The Sun"... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=7#post-315737 Mon, 14 Oct 2019 13:42:58 +0000 Arellcat 315737@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Mayhem, n.:</em> Rowdy confusion, chaos, disorder.<br /> <em>Chaos, n.:</em> A state resembling that of primordial chaos; utter confusion or disorder.</p> <p>Primordial chaos was said to be the personification of primordial matter. <em>"Herebus, the grysly of the deyp hellys see, Chaos, confoundar of elymentis"</em>, Chaos being the parent of (H)erebus, the god of darkness, and Nyx, the god of night.</p> <p><em>The closure of Bridge Road through Colinton causing tailback this morning from Slateford to Juniper Green</em></p> <p>The tailback also extended all the way along the Calder Road in both directions, and from the Calder Road to Longstone to the Land Rover garage to Slateford.</p> <p>I think to call a steady, well-mannered, extremely slow moving line of motor vehicles 'chaos' is being economical with the truth. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17168&page=7#post-315716 Mon, 14 Oct 2019 11:11:01 +0000 gembo 315716@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The closure of Bridge Road through Colinton for the next week or so causing tailback this morning from Slateford to Juniper Green. I birled down the inferior track at Matt's bike shop onto WoL path so I was fine.</p> <p>If still shut when the schools go back I predict something beyond mayhem and chaos I will call Ragnarok </p>