http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Innocent Tunnel game en Tue, 19 May 2026 19:36:13 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-375937 Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:43:25 +0000 chdot 375937@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Pedantic“</p> <p>Not necessarily. </p> <p>I assume you are correct. </p> <p>So, my mistake. </p> <p>(QuietRoute 61 – Roslin to Portobello <a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/cycling-walking/places-can-go/7" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/cycling-walking/places-can-go/7</a> )</p> <p>I just ‘absorbed’ the signage and misassumed. </p> <p>SO</p> <p>If it’s actually an Official CEC route, (with or without help from Sustrans), then the maintenance/care is shocking. </p> <p>Whatever the arguments about ‘better on road provision’, path networks (and individual paths) are IMPORTANT (not just for ‘cyclists’). </p> <p>Once again CEC is failing badly. </p> <p>Yes, “no money”, yes downside of Capital/Revenue split, <em>but</em> PRIORITIES. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-375935 Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:00:13 +0000 Frenchy 375935@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Sustrans route too (61)</em></p> <p>Pedantic, but QuietRoute 61 is a purely CEC thing. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-375933 Sat, 27 Jul 2024 11:40:15 +0000 Dave 375933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I've cut back on cutting back these days. The verges on donkey lane are meeting in the middle! Have heard anecdotally the canal trimming crew is short staffed </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-375932 Sat, 27 Jul 2024 11:19:15 +0000 chdot 375932@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Old old thread revival. </p> <p>Those were the CEC (g)olden days. </p> <p>Did the roll - first time in years - yesterday. </p> <p>No record, but close. </p> <p>I see the side vegetation still not being strimmed. </p> <p>Carried on to Porty</p> <p>Lots of low branches. </p> <p>Worst bit probably the ramp down to St. Mark’s Place. </p> <p>Overgrown doesn’t quite cover it. </p> <p>Full-on neglect. </p> <p>Sustrans route too (61).</p> <p>Active Travel Capital??? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-193934 Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:25:18 +0000 chdot 193934@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yesterday </p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/w9JFR1"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/423/19789563750_f6964c5496.jpg"></a></p> <p>Still short of the ex-bridge. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-189514 Wed, 27 May 2015 22:29:27 +0000 chdot 189514@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"<a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6676&amp;page=3#post-189512">The Ridiculous Reekie Roll (aka Castle to Docks without pedalling)</a>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-189510 Wed, 27 May 2015 22:15:23 +0000 chdot 189510@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks for reviving this thread - and reminding people of the 'bar' (where there used to be a footbridge).</p> <p>Shame we can no longer begin/end an 'event' at the Engine Shed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-189508 Wed, 27 May 2015 22:09:45 +0000 wingpig 189508@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpNCn70fZs&amp;feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpNCn70fZs&amp;feature=youtu.be</a></p> <p>About the same on a laden LHT with 28s as on a laden Revolution Continental with 23s. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-71432 Tue, 22 May 2012 11:00:45 +0000 chdot 71432@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Clearer run for 2012 -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6673" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=6673</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63393 Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:53:38 +0000 spytfire 63393@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes four am - even the drunks are mostly off the street then, this is a 24 hour city, we could go for coffee and breakfast at any supermarket </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63363 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:25:22 +0000 Roibeard 63363@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Been out with daughter, and laid down the gauntlet (in blue chalk on the wall and ground).</p> <p>Not an ideal run, as some pedestrians meant a touch of the brakes was required, but there was a light tail wind.</p> <p>@chdot - couldn't see your mark, so don't know if we bested you!</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63355 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:22:31 +0000 Uberuce 63355@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>At...four...am? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63335 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:59:52 +0000 spytfire 63335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I want to play this game but it's on the wrong side of town.<br /> When are we getting together at 4am for thei Castle-Docks run? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63329 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:29:48 +0000 Tom 63329@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Amir, I think you're right - one of the cantilever framed ones. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63323 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:01:53 +0000 Roibeard 63323@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Right, that's fighting talk - I'll pump up the Pino tyres and grab the heaviest stoker I can tonight...</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63319 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:33:47 +0000 amir 63319@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is that a Moulton? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-63318 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:28:18 +0000 chdot 63318@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chdot/7026540375/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7250/7026540375_28404493ac.jpg"></a></p> <p>Slight headwind 17" Kojaks </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-38595 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 17:17:49 +0000 Cyclingmollie 38595@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I have not a clue as to whether weight or aerodynamics will give the best result but I think a downhill always trumps a headwind. So my money's on Dave Crampton :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-38568 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:04:49 +0000 kaputnik 38568@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Would be interesting to try all tucked in on tri-bars and with the pointy hat on. Should in theory have very low air resistance. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=3#post-38565 Thu, 18 Aug 2011 13:45:55 +0000 DaveC 38565@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ha I never came across this thread first (or second) tme round. I cycle through the tunnel a couple of months ago and was disturbed to see a barrier across. The last time I cycled through must have been in the late 1990's early 2000's... I don't recall any chalk lines though they're may have been I wasn't looking out for them.</p> <p>I'd have to do this on My Dawes Galaxy (with rack) as its the heaviest bike I own. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-35355 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:05:09 +0000 wingpig 35355@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The path was too busy and bush-clogged to play on Friday afternoon on the way home but I popped through to see what sort of tunnel-exit speed I could get. From a standing start (slight tuck but hands on hoods, feet on pedals, pannier on right) I just peaked at 27mph at the exit; it didn't feel like a rolling start would have made me any faster but I'll have to do a same-condition comparison one after another at some point. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33209 Sun, 12 Jun 2011 18:04:26 +0000 kaputnik 33209@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Today's result.</p> <p>Slight headwind.</p> <p>Standing start from gate (no pedalling)</p> <p>Slight application of brakes in the tunnel, suspicious looking types exchanging things from their backpacks...</p> <p>"Modified Obree" position</p> <p>Speedo read 22.5mph at tunnel portal.</p> <p>Made it about 10/15 metres past the veiled faces graffiti.</p> <p>Marked a line with a "K". Yesterday's efforts appear to have been washed away by the rain.</p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaputniq/5824690129/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/5824690129_1e43989949.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33139 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:48:29 +0000 wingpig 33139@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Whilst the sound of rolling in the wet is different to rolling when dry, is it a bit louder in the wet, possibly implying more energy loss through sound-causing processes?<br /> On really hot days tyres definitely feel tackier, especially on smoother, darker surfaces. If they're a bit more flexible they ought to deform more easily as they roll, but do they deform the same amount at a given pressure (costing less energy) or absorb the same energy by deforming more?<br /> There's probably more mileage in making sure you're well-tucked on the high-speed bits before the right-hand turn where it flattens out. I left my feet on the pedals for stability (tucking seemed to leave no weight on the bars, making the front wheel feel very twitchy) but there was an appreciable sensation of wind on the calves. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33136 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:44:43 +0000 chdot 33136@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"ultraheavy machine would be better"</p> <p>Not convinced. I think tyres/rolling resistance is more of a factor. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33134 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:40:05 +0000 Dave 33134@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>An ultraheavy machine would be better for this game - the more momentum, the longer you take to coast to a halt... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33127 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:03:16 +0000 chdot 33127@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>And in this case, a race to the bottom. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33126 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:00:55 +0000 kaputnik 33126@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm not sure if it's in "the" rules, but one rule of cycling I've learnt is that as soon as someone says "it's not a race", it means it definitely <strong>is</strong> a race </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33125 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:54:57 +0000 chdot 33125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"So at the uphill end of the tunnel you stop pedalling, and see where you end up, right?"</p> <p>Yes. </p> <p>"Do we need to handicap it for bike (or rider!!) weight? ;-)"</p> <p>Mmm</p> <p>Certain people would claim for not being able to get through the gap at speed - then would have to be penalised for low profileness. </p> <p>Of course we'll have to ban people adopting an Obree like riding position. </p> <p>And we'll spend too long arguing about what sort of handicap Tweed is. </p> <p>It's a one rule game. </p> <p>(Obviously things like hand, foot, electric assistance are implicitly outlawed.)</p> <p>In years to come there will be a track pump fixed before the tunnel to allow for maximum tyre pressure (competitor's option). </p> <p>Schools will build ultralight machines and develop new tyre technologies. The physics of rain resistance will be studied. </p> <p>Of course this is all about personal best, absolutely no suggestion that there could be a winner... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33123 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:48:35 +0000 gembo 33123@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Jackson P - most defintely faster in the rain. HAd done too much shopping in Sainsburys before heading to Freewheelin for Finish Line Degreaser (good stuff) in downpour yesterday - much water on the road, huge overstuffed ortlieb with polybag of work clothes on top keeping things from spilling. So also heavier than normal and tilting to left but no surface friction because of water [I am guessing this] and tanking along. Confirming my view [the one in my head not in reality] that I only ever stand a chance as a lighter cyclist on the uphill stretches. Brakes also of course not working</p> <p>My BMX Bandits from Tynecastle High were in the bike shop - 'you've got to come back to Tynecastle' they said as the guy who took over my bike maintennance class has left. If they had listened to Nick telling me that tightening the mudguard bolt has no effect on the forks they might have thought differently. :-) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1719&page=2#post-33119 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:34:44 +0000 Dave 33119@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>So at the uphill end of the tunnel you stop pedalling, and see where you end up, right?</p> <p>Do we need to handicap it for bike (or rider!!) weight? ;-) </p>