http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Meanwhile, South of Scotland en Mon, 18 May 2026 05:49:45 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238468 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 19:23:03 +0000 chdot 238468@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Bob Neill: Transport Minister Chris Grayling should resign</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38240094" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38240094</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238382 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 12:04:03 +0000 chdot 238382@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Whether he is interested in transport or just the <em>politics</em> of transport is hard to tell -</p> <p><a href="http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/chris-grayling-my-new-team-will-help-solve-the-problems-on-southern-rail-a3334296.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/chris-grayling-my-new-team-will-help-solve-the-problems-on-southern-rail-a3334296.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/sadiq-khan-hits-back-after-government-blocks-plan-for-tfl-to-take-over-suburban-rail-services-a3414126.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/sadiq-khan-hits-back-after-government-blocks-plan-for-tfl-to-take-over-suburban-rail-services-a3414126.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238379 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 11:56:52 +0000 chdot 238379@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"apparently the previous Transport Secretary (Hammond) couldn't understand why cycling comes under the Department for Transport"</p> <p>Pretty much the same up here.</p> <p>Two many reasons - decades of carcentricity and a complete lack of understanding that transport is <em>essentially</em> about moving <em>people</em>. Walking, which involves vastly more people than cycling, hardly gets a thought (and is also largely sidelined to health/leisure).</p> <p>Transport is obviously about moving goods too. This is know as trade or economic activity and therefore unquestionably good and to be facilitated - predominantly by more/wider roads.</p> <p>Is there <em>any</em> freight on the Borders line? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238377 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 11:50:20 +0000 chdot 238377@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"so it's no surprise he's a useless Transport Secretary"</p> <p>Depends whether he is expected to do anything/change things (eg the <em>natural order</em> of transport priorities). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238373 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 11:41:47 +0000 ih 238373@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I can't remember if I learnt this nugget from CCE, but apparently the previous Transport Secretary (Hammond) couldn't understand why cycling comes under the Department for Transport. He thought it should lie with Health or Sport. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238371 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 11:32:38 +0000 Stickman 238371@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Grayling was viewed as being utterly useless as Lord Chancellor and Justice Secretary so it's no surprise he's a useless Transport Secretary. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238370 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 11:27:50 +0000 neddie 238370@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some of the comments are good:</p> <p><em><br /> <strong>StevieDee</strong></p> <p>"London has too many badly designed cycle lanes"</p> <p>Blame your mate Boris - he was in charge when most of the high profile ones were installed.</p> <p>"too many cyclists ... ignored the rules of the road"</p> <p>Your point? Most are trying to compensate for that badly designed infrastructure you just mentioned. To put it in perspective, too many drivers also ignore the rules, and kill and injure large numbers of innocent people as a result.</p> <p>“I don’t think all the cycle lanes in London have been designed as well as they should have been”</p> <p>Too right. Innocent road users died on them because of that, and it took intense and prolonged public pressure on your mate Boris to make them safer. For most of the others we're still waiting.</p> <p>"too many riders ignored red traffic lights on their journeys in the capital"</p> <p>What, is this bash a cyclist day? Red light jumping is responsible for a tiny proportion of road incidents. I guess you only see what you want from behind the windscreen of your Saab 1.8-litre convertible. When you're not using your phone to chase Pokemon, buy lunches at the Commons or send texts, that is.</p> <p>“Motorists in London have got to be immensely careful of cyclists”</p> <p>They've got to be just as careful of people on foot, though since they manage to kill up to 60 of these a year in London alone I don't hold out much hope of that.</p> <p>“At the same time, cyclists in London are too often unwilling to obey the road signs. I’ve seen regular examples of people who just bolt through red lights."</p> <p>Change the record, you useless, lying sack of</em></p> <p>and:</p> <p><em><br /> <strong>toomey</strong></p> <p>16% of cyclists jump reds, killed Zero last year, 70% of drivers admit OFTEN speeding, killed 700. And Grayling demands a medal for not driving into stuff. What a slaphead clown.</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238364 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:39:16 +0000 Min 238364@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think it is actually worth reading the bilge (in a manner of speaking) for all the "I try not to get caught speeding" or "when I say drink-drivers I don't mean when you or I have a drink and drive, I mean when OTHER people do it" and other such nonsense. He sounds perfect for a UK transport minister to me. Outta my way brrrooooommmm! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238361 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:12:47 +0000 chdot 238361@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Theresa May, the motor industry, hard pressed motorists, Neil Greig. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238360 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:07:09 +0000 I were right about that saddle 238360@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Who is it that actually wants people like this in charge? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17242#post-238354 Wed, 07 Dec 2016 02:49:46 +0000 ih 238354@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chris Grayling, Transport Minister for England, has shared his enlightened (not) views with the Evening Standard.</p> <p><a href="http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/chris-grayling-i-use-a-phone-to-buy-lunch-so-why-do-we-still-queue-for-rail-tickets-a3413296.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/chris-grayling-i-use-a-phone-to-buy-lunch-so-why-do-we-still-queue-for-rail-tickets-a3413296.html</a></p> <p>If you want to skip most of the bilge and head to the cycling, bingo myths, bilge, scroll down to the bottom. Almost a parody. Needless to say, he hasn't ridden a bike since he was a student but still feels qualified to express a primitive driverist opinion. </p>