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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd en Sun, 31 May 2026 18:22:04 +0000 chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-241499 Tue, 24 Jan 2017 19:22:07 +0000 chdot 241499@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15044243.Sportscotland_chair_tells_MSPs_ministers_should_double_sport_budget" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15044243.Sportscotland_chair_tells_MSPs_ministers_should_double_sport_budget</a> LaidBack on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240470 Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:58:16 +0000 LaidBack 240470@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Was on around a week ago - still on iPlayer for a while. Observant viewers may have noticed something odd in part of the footage. I've edited on my flicker stream :-) <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/albums/72157678641571946">The Medal Myth - behind the scenes</a> Roibeard on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240111 Tue, 03 Jan 2017 16:56:36 +0000 Roibeard 240111@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I now wish I'd said that "I definitely could believe the link between SkyRide and sporting successes with increases in recreational or sport cycling." I'm no longer convinced, having had two legacy events (local Olympics, local Commonwealth games), neither with a grass roots legacy in participation or health! Robert chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240107 Tue, 03 Jan 2017 12:12:38 +0000 chdot 240107@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/1000-scottish-schools-have-no-outdoor-sports-facilities-1-4330608" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/1000-scottish-schools-have-no-outdoor-sports-facilities-1-4330608</a> chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240105 Tue, 03 Jan 2017 12:01:27 +0000 chdot 240105@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ 'We' discussed this 4 years ago - "I can definitely see the link between SkyRide and sporting successes with increases in recreational or sport cycling. With regard to sport, I'd guess it to be fairly well established that success breeds success, or even coverage breeds greater participation - how many folk wave a tennis racket around during June? The sport governing bodies are trying to move away from supporting just the elite athletes, and pushing "sport for life", or recreational sport, recognising that they need mass participation to cream off the elite, and that the fun, well-being and health benefits shouldn't be restricted to the top few. ... So, I'm back to my foot in all camps position (I promise that I'm more opinionated about most other things!) - increases in recreational cycling are great. Sporting success is great. Road Clubs are great. Touring is great. Vehicular cycling is great. Increased motorist awareness is great. Sustrans is great. Bikeability is great. Mountain biking is great. Danny, Graeme, Mark and Chris are from another planet, and great. Bike Polo is great. Yet... Yet that's not enough, we need the step change to see everyday cycling made subjectively (and objectively) safer, and that's going to require something different than what has happened before, and funding that's not been previously announced. Hence PoP and the Cycling Embassy are heading in the right direction, not more of the same (great as it is), but something fundamentally and qualitatively different..." <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7645#post-78139" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=7645#post-78139</a> chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240100 Tue, 03 Jan 2017 01:18:11 +0000 chdot 240100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Now available (throughout the UK) <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b087cbgb" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b087cbgb</a> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/sportsweekly/biography/index.shtml">"Just who is this guy John Beattie?"</a> ih on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240098 Tue, 03 Jan 2017 00:04:45 +0000 ih 240098@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Lewis's dad. Murun Buchstansangur on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240097 Tue, 03 Jan 2017 00:02:27 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 240097@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Lewis Hamilton's dad, I presume, if chdot's tongue is not lodged firmly in cheek chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240095 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 23:48:39 +0000 chdot 240095@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Anthony+Hamilton&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb">Which one</a>? HankChief on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240093 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 23:38:33 +0000 HankChief 240093@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Well yes, but the more you big up elite athletes the more you encourage parents (with the means to facilitate it) to give their kids every opportunity to become one. Problem is you don't know which sports they'll be good at so you might as well try a few... The more examples you have like Judy Murray and Anthony Hamilton the more you'll get parents trying to emulate them... chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240091 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 23:23:30 +0000 chdot 240091@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "to get your beloved offspring into multiple activities" For those who can afford it - which was a key theme of the programme, those who become elite athletes generally came from 'better off' backgrounds, plus many government funded 'activity' programmes don't reach/appeal to those who 'need' them most. HankChief on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240090 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 23:11:25 +0000 HankChief 240090@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ 'mum and dad's taxi to activities' Exactly. It was the restrictive nature of my parental taxi service that got me into cycling (& the freedom it gave). There does now seem to be a arms race to get your beloved offspring into multiple activities and once you build in play dates they spend an alarming amount of time in transit. chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240089 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:59:33 +0000 chdot 240089@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "& more importantly what will work to get people active (& not just already 'sporty' people doing more)" Programme did mention more infrastructure - inc segregation - to encourage people to cycle. Some wistful comments about 'in my day we used to just go outside', 'now it's all tablets and electronics', 'mum and dad's taxi to activities'. chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240088 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:53:57 +0000 chdot 240088@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ "Buying a bike, trike or tandem may just be better than gym membership in my (biased) view." Indeed. One of the programme's 'answers' was walking - both what we would call 'active travel' and also (to some extent) walking groups. To date these have mostly been aimed at/used by older people - <a href="http://www.pathsforall.org.uk/find-a-health-walk/edinburgh-city/?submit=Go" rel="nofollow">http://www.pathsforall.org.uk/find-a-health-walk/edinburgh-city/?submit=Go</a> On the programme the man from <a href="http://www.pathsforall.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.pathsforall.org.uk</a> made a good case for more investment. HankChief on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240085 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:45:38 +0000 HankChief 240085@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Was interesting... A couple of different issues raised. Does elite sport encourage more people to become active (& whether it is disproportionately spent on the better off people) & more importantly what will work to get people active (& not just already 'sporty' people doing more). chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240083 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:37:33 +0000 chdot 240083@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/275/32021871056_8326e3815f.jpg"> Frenchy on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240082 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:36:28 +0000 Frenchy 240082@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Enjoyed that, thanks for the thread and the thread bump. chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240080 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:04:44 +0000 chdot 240080@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Good programme. " This programme will be available shortly after broadcast " (But not yet) chdot on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-240078 Mon, 02 Jan 2017 20:44:32 +0000 chdot 240078@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ 8:30 LaidBack on "The Medal Myth - BBC Scotland - Jan 2nd" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17292#post-239844 Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:40:09 +0000 LaidBack 239844@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Look out for The Medal Myth on BBC Scotland Investigates next Monday, January 2nd at 20.30 By Jan 2nd most people should have surfaced to find out why they aren't getting any fitter :-) Buying a bike, trike or tandem may just be better than gym membership in my (biased) view. <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b087cbgb" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b087cbgb</a>