http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Granton Harbour Masterplan en Tue, 19 May 2026 15:16:38 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-383655 Wed, 25 Mar 2026 15:31:39 +0000 chdot 383655@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Deleted post</p> <p>Now at more recent thread</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19287#post-383654" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19287#post-383654</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-364645 Tue, 08 Nov 2022 17:08:02 +0000 chdot 364645@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/edinburgh-gasholder-park-work-set-to-start-on-new-waterfront-attraction-and-events-arena-in-granton-3909272" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/arts-and-entertainment/edinburgh-gasholder-park-work-set-to-start-on-new-waterfront-attraction-and-events-arena-in-granton-3909272</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-362227 Mon, 01 Aug 2022 10:25:30 +0000 chdot 362227@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ Frenchy</p> <p>Sorry I deleted my post while you were replying, realised it was probably better here -</p> <p><a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19287#post-362223" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19287#post-362223</a></p> <p>Well questions are -</p> <p>Is a line to Granton still being considered? Is the intention to go via WGH? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-362222 Mon, 01 Aug 2022 08:39:47 +0000 Frenchy 362222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>IF ANY of it happens increases chance of a tram line along Roseburn Corridor…</em></p> <p>A wee birdie tells me this option is no longer being seriously considered. Still time for it to be reconsidered, of course. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-356264 Thu, 28 Oct 2021 20:58:03 +0000 chdot 356264@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/chancellor-rishi-sunak-announces-ps165-million-for-granton-waterfront-regeneration-3435232" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/chancellor-rishi-sunak-announces-ps165-million-for-granton-waterfront-regeneration-3435232</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-337564 Tue, 15 Sep 2020 22:30:07 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 337564@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The image you've tweeted is of Western Harbour in Leith, not Granton. Getting your masterplans mixed up maybe?" Arf! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-337563 Tue, 15 Sep 2020 22:24:30 +0000 gembo 337563@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Can’t get that link to open, bit like grant on harbour master plan struggling to open as an actual. Thing </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-337560 Tue, 15 Sep 2020 21:46:25 +0000 chdot 337560@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/adamrmcvey/status/1305868856007720961" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/adamrmcvey/status/1305868856007720961</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-328876 Sat, 02 May 2020 09:50:14 +0000 chdot 328876@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heritage-and-retro/retro/17-memories-edinburghs-granton-district-down-decades-2668061" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/heritage-and-retro/retro/17-memories-edinburghs-granton-district-down-decades-2668061</a></p> <p>(Includes bicycles) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-327981 Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:50:37 +0000 chdot 327981@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>HOWEVER</p> <p>FP has been involved in trying -</p> <p>“</p> <p>1.2 The applicant, Forth Ports, seeks a Certificate of Lawfulness (proposed) for the formalisation of car parking arrangements on operational land which is an integral part of the proposal to operate a Cross Forth Ferry Service between Burntisland and Granton. The proposed Cross Forth development will provide berthing arrangements for the ferry, a bus turning circle and formalisation of the existing car parking arrangements, to provide up to 131 car parking spaces.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&amp;keyVal=M86KA1HFT8000" rel="nofollow">https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&amp;keyVal=M86KA1HFT8000</a></p> <p>Don’t know who operator was or why it didn’t happen.</p> <p>UPDATE</p> <p>I now know the who -</p> <p><a href="https://www.orcadian.co.uk/pentland-ferries-moves-forth-with-possible-new-venture/" rel="nofollow">https://www.orcadian.co.uk/pentland-ferries-moves-forth-with-possible-new-venture/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-327979 Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:23:30 +0000 chdot 327979@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“I am advised though that Forth Ports might stick a spanner in the works”</p> <p>That would be normal behaviour.</p> <p>They can get away with all sorts (including the need for planning permission in some cases) as they are a “statutory undertaker”. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-327977 Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:04:52 +0000 Tulyar 327977@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This I think could radically impact on some traffic flows via the M90 at peak times - as @chdot has a particular awareness of this in terms of journey times and related actual/perceived issues I'm wondering if a trial might be a post COVID action to balance removal of on street parking- which by observation of its absence, seems to be filled by people outside Edinburgh driving in several (including the former CMO doing so from Fife) </p> <p>I am advised though that Forth Ports might stick a spanner in the works, through their control of currently available piers &amp; tidal berths. Any leads on that? </p> <p>Instead of operating between a bus depot in Kirkcaldy and one in near Portobello the route, at half the distance, it has a railway station at one end, and a tram, plenty of buses, &amp; bikes (plus a lot of taxis passing) at the other. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-327933 Sat, 18 Apr 2020 22:54:53 +0000 chdot 327933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Perhaps too late to note”</p> <p>No, but doesn’t seem that CEC, FC, TS, SEStran etc. etc. are looking into this possibility. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-327930 Sat, 18 Apr 2020 21:50:38 +0000 Tulyar 327930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Perhaps too late to note that Granton (the original train ferry terminus for the rail services to Fife via Burntislabd) would be just a 15 minute boat trip from access to golf courses North of the Forth, essentially cutting the journey times to Kirkcaldy from Edinburgh by 60-70%.</p> <p>This can be tested by chartering the old Redjet 3 ferry - being replaced by Redjet 7 and certificated to operate in estuarial waters extending to a line between Kirkcaldy and Portobello. At speeds of c 35Kts these boats cover the 11 Nm between Southampton &amp; Cowes in c.25 minutes. The short crossing has a rail station directly by the site at Burntisland, and will have a tram link at Granton/Newhaven </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-327781 Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:02:05 +0000 gembo 327781@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes pity the Scottish govt always sides with developers and has no desire to make developers put in infra </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-327771 Thu, 16 Apr 2020 11:09:11 +0000 chdot 327771@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>That decision, made by the Scottish Government reporter Andrew Fleming in August 2019, was appealed by the council in the hope of allowing the council to draw up a renewed agreement around developer contributions to force the developers to hand over more cash to pay for infrastructure connected to the development. </p> <p>“<br /> <a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/council-loses-edinburgh-marina-court-battle-and-could-be-forced-pay-hundreds-thousands-expenses-2539624" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/council-loses-edinburgh-marina-court-battle-and-could-be-forced-pay-hundreds-thousands-expenses-2539624</a></p> <p>Looks like CEC took a big gamble and lost. </p> <p>Now likely to be even more wary of refusing planning permissions. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-299500 Thu, 17 Jan 2019 22:44:23 +0000 chdot 299500@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/help-us-make-a-big-splash-on-granton-waterfront-1-4856740" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/help-us-make-a-big-splash-on-granton-waterfront-1-4856740</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-298364 Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:13:12 +0000 chdot 298364@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/cllrwhyte/status/1078228199220367360?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cllrwhyte/status/1078228199220367360?s=21</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-298355 Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:51:32 +0000 chdot 298355@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>The city council is pushing ahead with its plans to regenerate Granton after securing the former gas works site from the National Grid. When completed, the district is likely to include 4,000 new homes, business and retail space – while the National Galleries of Scotland is putting together proposals for a £75m complex. </p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190921025847/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/business/calls-for-granton-development-to-be-better-than-dundee-s-v-a-1-4848657" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20190921025847/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/business/calls-for-granton-development-to-be-better-than-dundee-s-v-a-1-4848657</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-271874 Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:07:01 +0000 crowriver 271874@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hahaha! Very droll.</p> <p>Vermilion Sands springs to mind... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-271872 Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:29:12 +0000 amir 271872@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sounds like the landscape for a JG Ballard novel </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-271870 Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:06:48 +0000 chdot 271870@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>WITH its own bistro, sauna and private cinema, a new retirement village coming to Edinburgh could be the city’s most luxurious. </p> <p>The 104-home development on the Granton waterfront will also include a library, landscaped gardens and a 24-hour concierge service for residents.</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/luxury-retirement-village-with-bistro-and-cinema-coming-to-edinburgh-1-4656677" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/luxury-retirement-village-with-bistro-and-cinema-coming-to-edinburgh-1-4656677</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-261193 Wed, 20 Sep 2017 19:40:56 +0000 chdot 261193@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>Jersey-based Granton Central Development’s harbour plans include a 300-berth marina and 2000 new homes as well as a hotel and shops. </p> <p>Hailed as “the focal point” of Granton’s regeneration, Edinburgh Marina will become the first new marina next to a 
capital city in Europe for 
decades. </p> <p>Work is expected to start this year and could be completed by 2019. Plans include a new sea wall while the firm predicts 900 permanent jobs and a boost to the Capital’s economy.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170923142851/http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/marina-businessman-sues-yacht-club-for-defamation-1-4565399" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20170923142851/http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/marina-businessman-sues-yacht-club-for-defamation-1-4565399</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-247434 Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:53:53 +0000 chdot 247434@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>Granton Harbour will be just two-and-a-half miles from the city centre and it’s hoped the tram line will eventually surge into the development</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170421130016/http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/granton/work-could-begin-on-granton-marina-by-end-of-the-year-1-4424953" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20170421130016/http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/granton/work-could-begin-on-granton-marina-by-end-of-the-year-1-4424953</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-242315 Tue, 07 Feb 2017 18:30:04 +0000 chdot 242315@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>DEVELOPERS behind proposals to regenerate Granton with a marina, 2000 homes and a hotel have been told to amend the plans because of a potential conflict with the tram extension. </p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170210062818/http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/warning-of-potential-clash-between-tram-extension-and-granton-marina-development-1-4359820" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20170210062818/http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/warning-of-potential-clash-between-tram-extension-and-granton-marina-development-1-4359820</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-242208 Mon, 06 Feb 2017 12:32:38 +0000 dougal 242208@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I would generalise that to: "I wish the press <strike>when reporting on planning matters</strike> would put the references in a footnote". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17417#post-242207 Mon, 06 Feb 2017 12:30:07 +0000 Klaxon 242207@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wish the press, when reporting on planning matters, would put the references in a footnote. It makes looking for the real story much harder.</p> <p><strong>16/05618/AMC</strong> - Granton Harbour redevelopment masterplan - was approved on Thursday</p> <p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/5mjYdSU.jpg"></p> <p>There is a raft of conditions, the most notable of which is (9) the provision of a 5 metre shared use path along Lower Granton Road with pedestrian and cycle priority over side roads.</p> <p>Reported in the <a href="http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15072405.Edinburgh_marina_scheme_faces_changes_over_clash_with_tram_proposals/">Herald</a> is a 'clash over tram proposals' - rather - it's a footnote saying the approved masterplan doesn't properly consider interactions with the tram route and these concerns should be addressed in future individual planning applications.</p> <p>Will this masterplan be built, or forgotten to time like most of them? Just need to wait and see... </p>