http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: "New roads cause traffic not economic growth, says CPRE" en Sun, 31 May 2026 17:34:25 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17531#post-245168 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 14:18:34 +0000 gembo 245168@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That research is far too clever and accurate to be accepted. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17531#post-245146 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:54:59 +0000 chdot 245146@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.livingstreetsedinburgh.org.uk/2017/03/20/campaigners-urge-car-clamp-down-at-boroughmuir-school-site" rel="nofollow">http://www.livingstreetsedinburgh.org.uk/2017/03/20/campaigners-urge-car-clamp-down-at-boroughmuir-school-site</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17531#post-245144 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:41:35 +0000 chdot 245144@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Interesting to read some of the Guardian article comments.</p> <p>Quite a lot of hostility/presumption that this is about 'country people/landowners' wanting to keep people out.</p> <p>Also high (for the G I would <em>have</em> thought) accepting that cars are inevitable (+ more people, more cars) so have to be catered for.</p> <p>Obviously some comments about 21st C solutions being different. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17531#post-245137 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:21:29 +0000 neddie 245137@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I notice the Dept. of Transport were quick to "dispute the findings".</p> <p>I think it's also misleading for them (FT, DoT, KPMG consultancy) to talk only about 'new' roads generating new traffic. This implies that road upgrades do not generate new traffic, which I believe they do.</p> <p>An 'upgrade' is adding capacity (even if it only increases speed &amp; not the number of lanes) and therefore it will attract new traffic. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17531#post-245135 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:10:50 +0000 chdot 245135@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>New roads built in England have almost all failed to either relieve congestion or boost local economies, according to what campaigners claim is the biggest ever independent review of completed schemes. </p> <p>A study of 86 road schemes commissioned by the Campaign to Protect Rural England (CPRE) found most roads increased traffic while destroying the countryside.</p> <p>...</p> <p>The annual budget for roadbuilding is set to triple to £3bn by the end of the decade under the road investment strategy announced in 2014. The government says its strategy will encourage economic growth and support a “free-flow core network” of one mile-a-minute journey times. But the CPRE said that the research showed that road building over the past two decades had failed to deliver on similar aims.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/20/new-roads-create-more-traffic-fail-local-economies-cpre" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/20/new-roads-create-more-traffic-fail-local-economies-cpre</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17531#post-245134 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:54:58 +0000 chdot 245134@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="http://www.cpre.org.uk/media-centre/latest-news-releases/item/4550-case-for-tripling-roads-budget-based-on-wishful-thinking-say-campaigners" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpre.org.uk/media-centre/latest-news-releases/item/4550-case-for-tripling-roads-budget-based-on-wishful-thinking-say-campaigners</a></p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/cpre/status/843869768553656320" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cpre/status/843869768553656320</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17531#post-245132 Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:50:01 +0000 chdot 245132@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>FT story (paywall) <em>should</em> open from this link</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/john_lauder/status/843774268672491520" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/john_lauder/status/843774268672491520</a></p> <p>"</p> <p>Building new roads causes more traffic and congestion but does not boost local economies, according to a study of 80 UK road schemes by the Campaign to Protect Rural England.</p> <p>Although congestion falls, this is shortlived, according to research by Transport for Quality of Life, which was commissioned by the CPRE. </p> <p>" </p>