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CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City en Mon, 18 May 2026 04:51:59 +0000 I were right about that saddle on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246159 Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:51:31 +0000 I were right about that saddle 246159@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Oh, and while I'm at it I just remembered that I can take full credit for all of these developments as I participated in what was, we thought, the first ever pro-cycling demonstration in Paris using the catchy slogans 'Eteignez...le moteur...respirez l'air sans odeur!' and Vélo, dodo, bistrot!. gibbo on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246153 Thu, 06 Apr 2017 07:23:54 +0000 gibbo 246153@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @IWRATS If fewer people are driving into Paris, then there'll be less driving = less suburban fumes. If the principle is that more roads = more driving. Fewer roads for cars should = less driving. As for the other mayors, they should maybe look into park and rides. It really depends on how far they are from Paris. I've been to a few towns that are adjacent to Paris and they all had good public transport links to the city. But I'd imagine those get less good as you get further out. I were right about that saddle on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246129 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 19:25:51 +0000 I were right about that saddle 246129@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ @gibbo The suburban fumes will come to the city center. Lots of journeys are between suburbs. I think this is great, I just wonder mow the mayors of the 'burbs will react/join in. gibbo on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246125 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 18:24:02 +0000 gibbo 246125@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ IWRATS, I used to live in Paris, but don't see how the "outside the city" issue matters - particularly when it comes to closing central roads to cars. In the end, if you want a low pollution city, then that's what you do. The ~8m people who come into the city each day will have to adjust. PS on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246124 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 18:11:54 +0000 PS 246124@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I've ridden a Velib round central Paris high on post-dinner Armagnac and found it a fantastic place to cycle. Up and down the Champs Elysee, round the Arc de Triomphe, across the Place de la Concorde. The only place I got honked at was passing through the Louvre and, fair play, I'd misjudged the line the road takes through the Place du Carousel and was entirely in the wrong. I got the impression that the impetuous way folk drive over there and the paucity of road markings meant that drivers were alert at all times, so they saw cyclists as well as cars. paddyirish on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246118 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 16:43:27 +0000 paddyirish 246118@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Sundays are good- cars are barred from large sections of the city centre DaveC on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246110 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:22:25 +0000 DaveC 246110@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ I rode out and in Paris in August? 2015 for Paris Brest Paris. It wasn't too bad and it was only afterwards that I learned Paris is supposed to be a nightmare for cyclists. I'm told PBP is run in the month when all Parisians go way on holiday, Phew!! I were right about that saddle on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246101 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 13:04:09 +0000 I were right about that saddle 246101@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Interesting stuff, but you need to understand the structure of that fine metropoli to get the full picture. Ms Hidalgo is mayor of Paris intra muros. Most 'Parisians' live in Paris extra muros. The suburbs are utterly car dependant, even with the extensive , inexpensive and generally good public transport. I haven't attempted to cycle in the city centre since the days when that was seen as genuinely suicidal. I really must give it a go next time I'm there. neddie on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246100 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 13:01:50 +0000 neddie 246100@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Hidalgo says that she hasn’t tried to sell Parisians on the changes. “Marketing is not my way to do politics,” she says. “Instead of wasting time and energy trying to convince through an elaborate marketing campaign, I deliver real solutions that speak for themselves and benefit the people of Paris. And as a mayor of Paris, I am proud to deliver all my commitments to my people.” When people experience each change, she thinks that they will be swayed. “Once every month we close the Champs-Élysées to traffic,” she says. “When you walk through the crowds of Parisians and tourists enjoying this iconic space, it removes any doubt that you might have that pedestrianization will benefit all, resulting in a cleaner, safer, and more beautiful Paris.” gibbo on "Paris Mayor's Ambitious Plans To Create The Post-Car City" http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17573#post-246094 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:29:26 +0000 gibbo 246094@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ Interesting article. (Which the Scottish government spends 98.1% of its money on transport that pollutes.) <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/3069004/the-mayor-of-pariss-quest-to-get-rid-of-cars"> <a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/3069004/the-mayor-of-pariss-quest-to-get-rid-of-cars" rel="nofollow">https://www.fastcompany.com/3069004/the-mayor-of-pariss-quest-to-get-rid-of-cars</a></a>