http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: New driving test rules en Tue, 19 May 2026 13:44:49 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-247018 Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:23:44 +0000 fimm 247018@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Funnily enough, my driving instructor's car had a random scrap of paper visible in the rear window, for the "reversing around a corner" manoeuvre (this was supposed to give you the skills to parallel park)... </p> <p>I remember having to get a friend to (illegally*) park my mother's car because I couldn't... </p> <p>*illegally in the sense that she wasn't insured to drive it, not in the sense that we were parking somewhere we shouldn't. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-247012 Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:25:46 +0000 Baldcyclist 247012@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"I do wish I'd had to learn how to parallel park"</p> <p>Mt driving instructor had strategically placed stickers on the rear windscreen, and rear side window, which allowed you to judge reversing round corners, and parallel parking.</p> <p>For reversing round corners the strategy was to keep the sticker in the rear windscreen in the middle of the kerb, and for parallel parking you started turning the steering wheel at the first sticker, and straightened at the second one.</p> <p>Biggest issue I had was that my first car had no stickers to judge these things, so I basically had to learn again. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-247009 Mon, 17 Apr 2017 11:55:26 +0000 jonty 247009@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Independent driving came in during 2010 or a bit later. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-247003 Mon, 17 Apr 2017 11:29:56 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 247003@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"pull up on the right-hand side of the road, reverse for 2 car lengths and rejoin the traffic"</p> <p>Surely this should be an illegal manoeuvre, not a taught and tested one? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246992 Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:37:36 +0000 fimm 246992@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't remember having to do any "independent driving" at all - I think the whole of my test was directed turn by turn. This was in 1990. I also didn't have to parallel park (though my sisters did) - I do wish I'd had to learn how to parallel park (I managed to make a meal of parking in a large and completely empty layby at the weekend...) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246892 Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:48:48 +0000 Blueth 246892@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had read the release but stand corrected - one fault every 2.6 minutes - that'll be okay then.</p> <p>When I were a lad (violins off) people failed on only one or two comparatively minor things wrong. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246890 Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:39:15 +0000 chdot 246890@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The 'driving licence is a human right' attitude makes it harder for the police/court system to withdraw licences or demand retests. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246888 Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:27:51 +0000 neddie 246888@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The problem with the driving test is that it doesn't eliminate incompetent drivers.</p> <p>A test that you only have to pass once and can be sat an infinite number of times is more about giving a sense of entitlement to drivers than removing those from the system who are incapable of driving safely. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246885 Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:05:26 +0000 chdot 246885@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As ever, M has the facts! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246883 Sat, 15 Apr 2017 08:58:05 +0000 Morningsider 246883@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The changes make far more sense if you read the actual DVSA press release:</p> <p><a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/news/driving-test-changes-4-december-2017" rel="nofollow">https://www.gov.uk/government/news/driving-test-changes-4-december-2017</a></p> <p>Like the fact the driving test actually involves 40 minutes of driving - which will not change. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246879 Sat, 15 Apr 2017 08:25:48 +0000 chdot 246879@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Driving test: Learners must be able to use sat navs"</p> <p>Well that's the change that's making the headlines. </p> <p>Remains to be seen if 'new' test is better/harder and results in more considerate drivers. </p> <p>"</p> <p>"Much has changed since the first driving test was taken in 1935, and it must be right that the test evolves, just as the cars we drive are themselves changing to incorporate ever more driver assist technology such as inbuilt sat nav systems. </p> <p>"Novice drivers need to demonstrate the right skills and driving style to cope with the new environment."</p> <p>"</p> <p>I'm sure it was more than 10 when I took mine!</p> <p>"</p> <p>and complete 20 minutes of independent driving rather than 10</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39594852" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39594852</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17613#post-246878 Sat, 15 Apr 2017 08:16:37 +0000 Blueth 246878@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I suppose allowing "only" 15 driving faults in 20 minutes is technically an improvement over allowing 15 in 10 minutes as at present in that the candidate has to be careful for longer.</p> <p>But still pathetic.</p> <p>If I was taking part in any activity and getting something wrong every 1.3 minutes I think I'd give up. </p>