http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Operation Close Pass in Edinburgh en Sun, 17 May 2026 16:52:01 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380865 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:55:50 +0000 bakky 380865@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They might have been grateful for a protest just for a punter to talk to! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380863 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:28:38 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 380863@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well, there will be no education of drivers in a pedestrianised area (today for once properly pedestrianised rather than the bad joke free-for-all 'pedestrianisation' that CEC specialises in). </p> <p>And especially when they speak to no-one passing or showing interest in their exhibits... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380862 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:24:31 +0000 bakky 380862@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think if it's combined with close pass education, perhaps it's less egregious; but the answer to blind spots in vehicles is better vehicles, not more squash-resilient active travellers </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380861 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:23:14 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 380861@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Oooh, you are naughty bakky :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380860 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:21:18 +0000 bakky 380860@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I knocked this up but have bottled tile-printing it road-sign sized and heading down because I have too much work on :(</p> <p><a href="https://freeimage.host/i/K3xUEEx"><img src="https://iili.io/K3xUEEx.md.png"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380859 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:15:01 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 380859@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks bakky. I popped back and yes, police, fire, LB, a truck tractor unit there. About 10 polis in a circle all talking to each other, same with fire and LB folk. Zero interest in public engagement. I was correct to file under 'performative'.</p> <p>The close pass mat had the 1.5m distance measured from wing mirror to end of handlebars, so that's something, I suppose, compared to the incorrect ones in circulation from car door to centre line of bike. No mention of 2 metres at higher speed however. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380858 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:04:47 +0000 bakky 380858@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><blockquote>Road users in Edinburgh are being asked to consider distance, blind spots and visibility as part of an initiative by road policing officers in the city.<br /> Police Scotland is working with partners including Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, Lothian Buses, Edinburgh City Council and David Philp Commercials, to encourage everyone to be more aware.<br /> There will be a number of vehicles on Castle Street on Thursday, 28 August between 8.30am and 1pm, demonstrating blind spots for cyclists and pedestrians.<br /> PC Stewart Sinclair from Police Scotland’s Road Policing Unit in Edinburgh, said: “We are encouraging everyone to think about how visible and safe they are. Many of us are unaware how much or little a driver can see because of blind spots. This event will give awareness to more vulnerable road users how to keep themselves safe on the road network.<br /> “Visibility is very important in terms of making our roads safer and I would like everyone, including pedestrians, to think about how they are seen, especially if a street is poorly lit after dark. Visibility is very different to that of a bus, car, lorry, motorbike or bike.<br /> “I must emphasise the need for all road users to look out for each other and give each other space. Unfortunately, when a crash happens it is often a pedestrian, cyclist or motorcyclist injured.<br /> Willie Hamilton, Operations Director, Lothian Buses, said: “We are delighted to continue our partnership with Police Scotland and other key stakeholders to help raise awareness around cyclist visibility and potential blind spots on our roads. With a network of over 70 routes across Edinburgh and the Lothians, we invest heavily in our driver training programme which covers all aspects of road safety including awareness of cyclists, pedestrians and other road users.”<br /> Scottish Fire &amp; Rescue Service Crew Commander David Main, said: “The Scottish Fire &amp; Rescue Service welcomes the opportunity to support this initiative and work with partners to improve the safety of all road users in the Edinburgh area. By working to improve awareness and encouraging everyone to think about safe distances, blind spots, visibility when on or around our roads we can make our roads safer for everyone”</blockquote> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380857 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 09:33:44 +0000 gembo 380857@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Could just be a fringe show, oh wait, it has finished. Though my Mercury Rev Tix for tomorrow say Fringe on them, maybe it is the fringe on Roger McGuinn’s Jacket? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=22#post-380856 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 09:25:10 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 380856@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Traffic police were at the foot of Castle St about 20 mins ago wheeling a road bike and with a blanket/mat and a bike <strike>lock</strike> stand. </p> <p>A Lothian Buses doubledecker was being marshalled down to the pedestrianised bit.</p> <p>I suspect some form of performative victim-blaming relating to 'blind spots' is about to happen... perhaps I'm wrong </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-360907 Fri, 27 May 2022 09:39:41 +0000 chdot 360907@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://twitter.com/MthMttCoe/status/1527327600049520640" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/MthMttCoe/status/1527327600049520640</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-352205 Mon, 28 Jun 2021 13:18:41 +0000 mga 352205@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Close pass driver education in Castle Street today. All men's road bikes on display next to the vehicles.</p> <p><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/88Sr8Uw9kI_VN2O2KOlKkepxpjv_6YGvrBSJyVSeKyIfBb8p7vHpkgLeEEY4cKiYjGi6QOLb8JoV8Eb6TY3il6WG0LXWEFQQ0Y5G_V2A13AiEMNYiioeMxfHzeOVl5qc0Z0zcH31NqGa6uTQeMJ_O380j9J-xl7lZXQUQpMttGAPgESPgkTMiW4JBToOI_3Mc9IA_scz-lqPyONBunpbqZeRG7uBTS_iHNbqbTcSRA9sCWbAB8NSVRO-DXVSUnTV_DcJ8GlPydt4H9PH8KJiLlV2LVNdOwJX23F5x-x84j1Xk6KpuU2wyynZSnnjidCV7BzugyBeC4lGKfeh-0hzo-jaEkfTIzAD_AB0OXQ_O3MCBM-r-M2Lha0niUNZ-2mIkaKFoxQLmDvciGYSkGzaS8GQE6Q6kbuiuYNHEiE2XE8LsDctaUddfJQs3cacAy-HdabRqB8sJ9AEJjr2p8m8JGCqP6jynuKaVkrDcN5OTJyWEfGGMsIgiwOEKy67wY3eOJgTQK8ZNVwJe52sMz2KgaAw7vjraWFvOsEW-i37Jt08yhVL-VvlaVHYJTrCWNOHSfBZgmcw-oj9Rkq81gykNeDedI9KdWDCMuJfrFfbvZyavficC1P2aQO1tOKmuZE-I9yoyjzSJEiIBd2jqlSbDaPthUvLeOTnoFVH6OKQF3oWu_DtCdVjqgyFOmFHwo2ZcsVSQpDOpMl3XWAGpukCKh8=w1250-h937-no?authuser=0"> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-339337 Sat, 24 Oct 2020 12:10:48 +0000 gembo 339337@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I believe I have been allowed to fill this in twice? Once at start and again at end or maybe I lost the will to go on. The first time.</p> <p>In a two ronnies sketch I objected to various things being missing that then came up.</p> <p>M6 ma8n quibble is the 0.5m from kerb leaves you in gutter And that they should link the safe pass 1.5 m to the 0.5m from the kerb and then0.5m from car doors.</p> <p>Also the riding two abreast stuff is unclear. </p> <p>However the last time the subspecies read the HC was just before their test, if they sat a test </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-339335 Sat, 24 Oct 2020 11:54:23 +0000 ejstubbs 339335@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@slowcoach: There's a lot of wordage in there; not easy to concentrate all the way through. I'm having to take it in chunks.</p> <p>I think H3 is worded particularly confusingly, and will tell them so. This is linked to a lack of consistency in terms used which I will highlight. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-339332 Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:24:16 +0000 slowcoach 339332@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>3 days left to respond to <a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/review-of-the-highway-code-to-improve-road-safety-for-cyclists-pedestrians-and-horse-riders">Highway code consultation</a>, closes at 11:59pm on 27 October 2020. Proposals include: "give motorcyclists, cyclists, horse riders <em>and horse drawn vehicles</em> at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211 to 215). <em>As a guide:<br /> ─ leave a minimum distance of 1.5 metres at speeds under 30 mph<br /> ─ leave a minimum distance of 2.0 metres at speeds over 30 mph<br /> ─ for a large vehicle, leave a minimum distance of 2.0 metres in all conditions</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-337589 Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:04:19 +0000 algo 337589@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>predictable retraction...</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/SuptBrighton/status/1305802895661694976?s=20" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/SuptBrighton/status/1305802895661694976?s=20</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-337483 Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:37:19 +0000 steveo 337483@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Think the Supt may have the keys to twitter removed for a bit. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-337481 Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:23:31 +0000 Frenchy 337481@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Hasty backpedal: <a href="https://twitter.com/WMerciaPolice/status/1305531144725819392">"We’d like to apologise for any confusion around our participation in Op Close Pass; whilst we always take into consideration health and safety matters we can confirm that we will be taking part. We will keep our communities up to date with our Op Close Pass activities."</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-337469 Mon, 14 Sep 2020 15:37:49 +0000 MediumDave 337469@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>...911's a joke in yo' town...</p> <p>(Worcester anyway)</p> <p>I look forward to hearing what the "rationale" is when it finally does emerge. Personally I think "I don't wanna" is all the rationale they really have and that's quite short enough for the twitters.</p> <p>[Edit -Brighton +Worcester] </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-337468 Mon, 14 Sep 2020 15:34:59 +0000 steveo 337468@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Holy smokes!<br /> <em><br /> I would rather explain in person as the H &amp; S rationale is too lengthy for Social Media</em></p> <p>I suspect she'll be back on the how to manage social media course before the end of the week!</p> <p>One thing to admit something so outrageous quite another to not be able to share the rationale behind it, it's just asking for a twitter pile on. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-337466 Mon, 14 Sep 2020 15:19:55 +0000 algo 337466@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Double post sorry - this is probably the more relevant thread:</p> <p>This is an open admission the police believe the roads to be unsafe to cycle on, but won't do anything about it.</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/SuptBrighton/status/1305471453811310592?s=20" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/SuptBrighton/status/1305471453811310592?s=20</a></p> <p><a href="http://algorhythmical.co.uk/ocp.png"><img src="http://algorhythmical.co.uk/ocp_small.png"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-323314 Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:55:46 +0000 CocoShepherd 323314@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Some new statistics on cycling and road safety, available here:</p> <p><a href="https://www.gcph.co.uk/publications/924_cycling_in_scotland_review_of_cycling_casualties" rel="nofollow">https://www.gcph.co.uk/publications/924_cycling_in_scotland_review_of_cycling_casualties</a></p> <p>The authors raise a good point about close passes and near misses not being reported to the police. Even if not directly acted upon, reporting these events could still be worthwhile to help paint an accurate picture of what its like to cycle on Scotland's roads, in cold hard stats. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-307297 Wed, 22 May 2019 21:01:06 +0000 gembo 307297@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a story on here of polis saying they are going to do a driver from video evidence.</p> <p>The police will act when they can get a conviction. Or we can make the police act when they can get a conviction.</p> <p>We all need to create a society where poor behaviour such as bad driving is named calmly and consistently amongst our friends, family, work colleagues etc.</p> <p>We need to work to change legislation.</p> <p>We need to work on pollution, congestion, global warming.</p> <p>Much work to be done </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-307295 Wed, 22 May 2019 20:27:03 +0000 wishicouldgofaster 307295@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Driver attitudes these days are a disgrace. I blame the police for years of inaction that has allowed such behaviour to go unchallenged for years.</p> <p>I passed my driving test in 1987 and I was always taught to take extra care when driving near cyclists. Sadly nowadays too many drivers won't give you an inch as they saw a cyclist ride on a pavement once in their sad and bitter lives! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-307279 Wed, 22 May 2019 16:06:36 +0000 EdinburghCycleCam 307279@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Urgh. I should have known better than to engage with the idiots replying to that tweet...</p> <p>Summary: "Close passing a cyclist is completely safe and the police are wasting their time here. The police should instead be targeting cyclists who all go through red lights, which is far more dangerous." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-307276 Wed, 22 May 2019 15:06:05 +0000 EdinburghCycleCam 307276@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd say "None" is the likely answer. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-307275 Wed, 22 May 2019 14:53:49 +0000 CycleAlex 307275@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>18 stopped for close passes. Would be interesting to how many are reported compared to being ‘educated’ </p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/polscotrpu/status/1131187821455314944?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/polscotrpu/status/1131187821455314944?s=21</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-307222 Wed, 22 May 2019 10:13:15 +0000 Rupe 307222@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>They were doing this in Holyrood Park this morning. Red Audi passed me and a suspiciously hi-vis rider a bit too close and was stopped by police motorcycle at the roundabout. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-306361 Fri, 10 May 2019 15:58:10 +0000 Roibeard 306361@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Caption for the image is equally wrong...</p> <p><em>Police stopped and spoke with seven cyclists in Musselburgh</em></p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-306359 Fri, 10 May 2019 15:36:07 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 306359@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/police-stop-7-motorists-for-driving-too-close-to-cyclists-in-musselburgh-1-4924873" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/police-stop-7-motorists-for-driving-too-close-to-cyclists-in-musselburgh-1-4924873</a></p> <p>All good up to </p> <p>"But two cyclists were also warned for other offences, which could range from dangerous cycling to <strong>not wearing a helmet</strong>." (my emphasis)</p> <p>EEN churnalism at its worst </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17633&page=21#post-306266 Thu, 09 May 2019 10:12:37 +0000 dessert rat 306266@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>could have done with this along Seafield Rd this morning - almost wiped out by a van pulling a trailer which was significantly wider.</p> <p>The van was too close and would normally have warranted words had I caught him at the light. I am not sure how the trailer missed me. </p>