http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Bromptonite page in today's National en Wed, 17 Jun 2026 07:02:33 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251277 Sat, 27 May 2017 23:01:06 +0000 LaidBack 251277@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo</p> <p><em>"He also picks his guitar with huge skill.<br /> He has had ill health which must be difficult for a giant man and artiste of such strength" </em></p> <p>Agree totally. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251267 Sat, 27 May 2017 16:39:24 +0000 gembo 251267@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a superb dick gaughan documentary hopefully on YouTube. Billy Kay interviews him and he goes to pub in Ireland sings Now Westlin Winds and tells stories of pot still hidden in tenements in leith. All good.</p> <p>If you google dick gaughan Now Westlin Winds 1983 you get the section of the show where he sings this.</p> <p>He is a massively powerful performer but this is him being gentle (well for him). He also picks his guitar with huge skill.</p> <p>He has had ill health which must be difficult for a giant man and artiste of such strength </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251264 Sat, 27 May 2017 16:20:07 +0000 LaidBack 251264@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Can't argue with that... </p> <p>Scots as a language of poets and singers.<br /> Dick Gaughan tracks were playing at Cycle Service the other day. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251260 Sat, 27 May 2017 10:18:35 +0000 I were right about that saddle 251260@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IWRATS' Corbies</p> <p><em>As I was cycling a' alane,<br /> I heard twa corbies makin' a mane<br /> Tane tae the tither turn and say,<br /> Whaur sail we gang and dine the day?</p> <p>It's in ahint yon auld fail dyke<br /> I wot there lies a new-reived bike;<br /> And naebody kens that it lies there<br /> But its Garmin and its Strava, and its tracker chip</p> <p>Its lock is to the scrapyard gane<br /> Its price to fetch th'insurance hame,<br /> Its rider's te'en anither steed,<br /> But we may mak' oor dinner sweet</p> <p>Ye'll sit on the thief's hause-bane,<br /> And I'll pike oot his bonny blue e'en<br /> Wi' ae lock o' his gowden hair<br /> We'll theek oor nest when it grows bare</em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251258 Sat, 27 May 2017 09:48:11 +0000 sallyhinch 251258@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Buddha Da is an interesting example of a book that's not so much written in 'Scots' but written in a phonetic rendering of spoken Glaswegian. Once you get the hang of it it's perfectly easy to understand, but you have to sound it out in your head at first </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251256 Sat, 27 May 2017 09:44:04 +0000 I were right about that saddle 251256@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There were some good makaris, but <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/44205">they were already being lamented by the sixteenth century.</a></p> <p>Fair tickled pink by @Frenchy's posts. I can hear a host of my grandparents' generation in my head loud and clear. Both sides. Town <em>and</em> country. Though if I dwell on it it will gar me greet.</p> <p>Timor mortis conturbat me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251255 Sat, 27 May 2017 08:21:55 +0000 Frenchy 251255@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Gembo - I'm nae intae poetry, but if ye're lookin fur Scots poetry by female authors, then Sheena Blackhall is certainly een. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251252 Sat, 27 May 2017 07:35:17 +0000 gembo 251252@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There is a proud history of written scots in poetry - Allan Ramsay, David Fergusson, Robert Burns, Hugh Macdiarmid, Robert Garrick Tom Leonard.. Not familiar with women poets writing in scots. There will be I just don't know them, I think Liz lochjhead and Jackie Kay for instance write predominantly in English. </p> <p>See also the kailyard tradition and all the comedy or maudlin poetry we had to learn for burns ( as burns was a bit hard until older primary). Some of that is great, some doggerel.</p> <p>I think it is harder to write prose in scots. James Kelman is the master. Irvine welsh' dialogue in Trainspotting is up there.</p> <p>Spoken / sung scots is caught on record such as Matt McGinn, Billy Connolly</p> <p>All of the above have different versions of Scots</p> <p>You then get Ulster Scots and the debate over whether the language is different enough from English to be a separate language or a dialect. But I am not going there. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251250 Fri, 26 May 2017 21:34:32 +0000 chdot 251250@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>In the late Eighties, while I was at Edinburgh University, I joined a scurrilously patriotic Scottish cabaret called the Merry Mac Fun Show. It comprised three very tall Scotsmen and me, all dressed in preposterously overblown costumes, including suits sewn from touristy tea towels (I daren’t tell you where, on my personage, the bannock recipe was located) and capacious tartan coats.</p> <p>"</p> <p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11092343/The-Scots-are-unwise-to-make-strangers-of-such-good-friends.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11092343/The-Scots-are-unwise-to-make-strangers-of-such-good-friends.html</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251249 Fri, 26 May 2017 21:04:25 +0000 LaidBack 251249@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Frenchy - a good point about the phonetic 'problem' of what would make 'guid scrivit Scots'. </p> <p>In the early Fringe days the Cambridge lads would make much fun of people talking like this.<br /> This was the basis of much of Billy Connolly's appeal too. Speaking like this would show you were 'rural' and uneducated. Comedy shows would just use places like Yorkshire or Scotland as a shortcut to amuse the knowing metropolitan audience. Pretty sure that view is still held of course in some quarters. Cultural cringe etc. </p> <p>I do remember the shock of seeing a group of tartanesque characters with mohicans doing a street show in Scots in the 1980s. In Edinburgh during the Festival - daring or what?! Think they were called the Merry Mac Fun Show. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251245 Fri, 26 May 2017 20:42:55 +0000 Frenchy 251245@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nice wee airticle. I files struggle wi readin Scots, cus it's normally written phonetically, an my accent niver matches the accent o the writer. I niver cain foo tae spell words, either, cus I've niver seen em written doon. I think it's guy interestin that I dinna hae this problem wi richtin or readin English. Probably jist cause I get far mair practice at readin English than I div readin Scots. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251243 Fri, 26 May 2017 20:21:22 +0000 gembo 251243@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@arellcat, did he talk like that too? There was a chap Paul Reekie, dead now who did speak like that all the time. See also Hugh macdiarmid's lallans language. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251242 Fri, 26 May 2017 20:14:43 +0000 LaidBack 251242@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>99% of the National isn't in Scots btw. The Scots page is only one issue a week. Written Scots causes debate. When I was at school you would be belted for sicht a display!</p> <p>I've often thought that it would be good to do a Gaelic page about recumbent riding. That way it would keep clear of mainstream attention.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/UWtDsJ"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4270/34747036762_a36e175974.jpg"></a><a href="https://flic.kr/p/UWtDsJ">Bromptonites Outing</a> by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/66067108@N08/">LaidBackBikes</a>, on Flickr </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251147 Thu, 25 May 2017 20:46:02 +0000 Arellcat 251147@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If that's the ride I'm thinking of, it was Tulyar's idea, and I helped organise it a bit (see the '<a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=1587&amp;page=36#post-250768">The "I had a lovely ride today, thank you" thread'</a> thread). We had three Bromptons, a Dahon and three bikes with ridiculous big wheels. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251128 Thu, 25 May 2017 18:51:13 +0000 gembo 251128@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lorra Lorra bromptons in this here london </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17781#post-251127 Thu, 25 May 2017 18:43:18 +0000 LaidBack 251127@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A richt guid account of last Saturday's (?) ride in Scots by Rab Wilson!</p> <p>Worth buying a copy I think.</p> <p>I could share a pdf later but it is encoded to avoid copying text wholesale.</p> <p>"there's discussion pages anent their runs" </p>