http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Incident on the canal- Tuesday 13th? en Sat, 27 Jun 2026 14:33:02 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849&page=2#post-253449 Thu, 22 Jun 2017 17:15:41 +0000 StepRam 253449@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ahh ha, one of the people who seem very interested in the Go Pro conspicuously strapped to my head! Suspect a fear of the footage appearing before the long arm of the law! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849&page=2#post-253411 Thu, 22 Jun 2017 09:30:19 +0000 nobrakes 253411@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@StepRam yes that is him/her. I saw <strong>him</strong> yesterday. Note that the person is not always dressed in ladies clothing. Yesterday he was dressed in men's clothing including a black suit jacket. He/She almost always has a bike with several carrier bags hanging off the handlebars. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849&page=2#post-253408 Thu, 22 Jun 2017 09:01:43 +0000 StepRam 253408@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I cruise along the canal at about 13 to 16 mph max and try to be very courteous, but I keep coming across a handful of £$%&amp; walking along you point blank refuse to give way! I have one the other morning but unfortunately, my GoPro has overwritten the footage! Which is a different issue! </p> <p>Is the Person of Polish descent referred to above a larger person with medium length blond hair? </p> <p>I have to say the thought of ending up in the drink with a laptop on my back fills me with dread! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849&page=2#post-253406 Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:48:13 +0000 Dave 253406@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This topic has to be one of the finest examples of "CCE-ness" I can remember. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849&page=2#post-253403 Thu, 22 Jun 2017 07:37:39 +0000 threefromleith 253403@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah, Charlie Chuck. Loved seeing him on James Whale late at night back in the day. "Donkey?! Eee-aww. Woof-baa!" A comedy genius!</p> <p>Anyway, back to canals..... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253385 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:05:48 +0000 gembo 253385@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>As a culmination of very mad parking causing big tailbacks on high street, usual peds throwing themselves into middle of road, crazy u-turns all through grass market and beyond a dog jumped out of the canal unseen because of high bank side grass causing me and the two cyclists in front to brake hard and sure.</p> <p>Not quite culmination as I then towed a tandem to Balerno for the summer triathlon which might be a duathlon due to ecoli in thriepmuir</p> <p>Strange commute home but no donkeys. As Charlie chuck used t say. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253357 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:19:54 +0000 spytfyre 253357@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS yes it made it let go of my wife's finger. Sharp tap to the nose bone.# </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253356 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:17:38 +0000 dessert rat 253356@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - you must watch some strange films, you didn't get that in Blockbuster / Netflix. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253352 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:51:53 +0000 I were right about that saddle 253352@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@spytfyre</p> <p>I once watched a pair of Moroccan adolescents have a go at a donkey with a five-foot piece of two-by-two timber. It took a beating that would have killed me without flinching.</p> <p>If your punch had the slightest impact.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253350 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:43:27 +0000 spytfyre 253350@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@IWRATS - I had to punch a donkey once. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253349 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:27:28 +0000 I were right about that saddle 253349@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Regrettably I once had cause to strike a dog in the head with a D-lock. It is a very effective weapon. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253347 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:18:22 +0000 spytfyre 253347@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bill - quite possible if you can hold their ankles.<br /> At one point I was part of a self defense class that was "every day" items. I went along with my bike and all the bits and bobs that go with, the number of ideas that came from how to use almost anything including the bike to defend yourself was impressive.<br /> From taking helmet off and using it as a shield or backpack/pannier bag<br /> The obvious D-lock/chain/pump/tyre levers/bottle/ as a baton<br /> Spare inner tube as a glove.<br /> Having had encounters with angry people it's worth keeping a pack of dextrose sweets to deal with the adrenaline and shock/anger. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253338 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:53:43 +0000 bill 253338@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This morning I was thinking about practicality of holding someone under the water in that section of the canal. I don't think one can do it without getting into water themselves. The banks are quite high and it looks it would take some long arms and skills to do it from the bank. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253336 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:37:10 +0000 Min 253336@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Liking the irony of bill being pullsed up for wrong gender pronoun</p> <p>And of course the classic talking about that instead of the issue of the person pushing folk in at the aqueduct.</em></p> <p>^This^ :-/ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253334 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:31:47 +0000 gibbo 253334@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't understand why this person is allowed on the canal path given their long history of endangering other path users. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253328 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 07:42:44 +0000 gembo 253328@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes that is what I said, all just speculation. Same extreme behaviour but different MO. Not funny though, the polish crossdresser is dangerous. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253325 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 07:34:50 +0000 chdot 253325@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Speculation </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253324 Wed, 21 Jun 2017 07:11:29 +0000 gembo 253324@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bill, fear not . The pub across from my old work used to have a couple of people who were cross dressers who were not so very glam as say Panti Bliss who is a drag queen I know slightly in Dublin. </p> <p>The people in the pub mostly just sat drinking their pints. None of them pushed people into the canal. The original post with the holding head under is a different and even more serious Modus Operandi. Could be totally unrelated. If related of course I would argue that political correctness might be impeding detection? (or polis have been round her house already, all just speculation) However, the cross dresser who pushes people into the canal has been convicted of this offence.. Katerina is her name. Pushing you in is her game. So far only if you travel east west in the morning when she is going west east and vice versa in the evening. So you confront her head to head. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253321 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:45:19 +0000 chrisfl 253321@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It seems that I must have been just ahead of Bill and Greenroofer yesterday, I was tucked it tight against the rails at the West end of the Aqueduct when she walk on and just started shouting at me and the cyclist behind.</p> <p>I just dismounted and walked past. Quite disconcerting. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253319 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:35:52 +0000 bill 253319@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Apologies to everyone offended. I based my judgement on what I saw and heard (both gender and nationality). I imagine said person had been discussed here a lot in my pre-CCE days but now I am not sure what search keywords to use.</p> <p>And apologies for diverting the topic.</p> <p>@IWRATS Agree. But I am pretty sure the person won't understand the word 'pronoun'.</p> <p>@Greenroofer I was going east, so probably it wasn't me. Also I am yet to spot an Elephant Bike in the wild. </p> <p>@gembo hah!</p> <p>In any case it's very upsetting to see such behaviour. I guess everyone needs a hobby. Does the person get often reported? Would the police intervene? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253309 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:43:18 +0000 gembo 253309@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Liking the irony of bill being pullsed up for wrong gender pronoun</p> <p>And of course the classic talking about that instead of the issue of the person pushing folk in at the aqueduct. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253308 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:29:27 +0000 chdot 253308@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"No. We are discussing bill's recent encounter with someone who was previously convicted of similar offences."</p> <p>Except that it all follows the first post. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253305 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:19:18 +0000 Greenroofer 253305@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bill, if it was you heading west who pushed past the shouty woman on the aqueduct last night, then I was the person she was shouting at, on the bike with the big box on the front*. She and I have interactions going back several years. I exercise considerable caution around her.</p> <p>I concur with SRD: in the reporting of the court case she was involved in, they used the feminine pronoun and first name (Katerina), so I will go along with that.</p> <p>The guy behind me was a chap I see occasionally. He rides at speed and with considerable style. He has a stylish yellow city bike with hub gears, metal mud guards and flowers painted on it, which looks slightly incongruous because he's a big chap. He told me after we'd passed Katerina that he had encountered her before.</p> <p>*It's an Elephant Bike. Did I mention that I had one? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253301 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:32:01 +0000 SRD 253301@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>No. We are discussing bill's recent encounter with someone who was previously convicted of similar offences. </p> <p>I'm sure no one has sugested anything else. except perhaps coincidence. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253300 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:31:24 +0000 I were right about that saddle 253300@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot</p> <p>Excellent point. <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=3913&amp;page=2#post-145474">Could have been the middle-aged rocker guy with the Irish wolfhound</a>. She was well tasty with her fists. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253299 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:28:06 +0000 chdot 253299@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This is reading like 'we' KNOW who did it... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253297 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:21:42 +0000 SRD 253297@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>didn't the police reports of previous incidents use female name/pronoun? that suggests we should do similar. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253296 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 18:16:50 +0000 I were right about that saddle 253296@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"Him" and "he" should be "her" and "she", respectively.</em></p> <p>I have a libertarian streak that sometimes leads me to chose my own pronouns.</p> <p>Would we not need for the person concerned to tell us what pronouns to use if we're going full PC? Clothes and phenotype tell us nothing, surely? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253295 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:42:32 +0000 biketrain 253295@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I feel fortunate that I did not encounter any objecting persons ( cross dressing or otherwise ) when I pushed my protest bike and a borrowed double kids trailer over the Slateford aqueduct after POP17. I do not think things would have gone well for me or the 5 foot panda mascot, if we had been confronted.<br /> Fortunately everyone we met was kind enough to make way. I will not try this again with a trailer or panda. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17849#post-253293 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:23:34 +0000 SRD 253293@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>May have seemed harmless, but isn't. </p>