http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Fantasy TdF league created en Mon, 20 Apr 2026 16:17:51 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-277637 Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:09:05 +0000 SRD 277637@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I need to get my copy back from Uberuce... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-277636 Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:04:49 +0000 Arellcat 277636@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was with you all the way up to 'the'. :-/</p> <p>:-)</p> <p>I recently enjoyed reading Ned Boulting's "How I Won the Yellow Jumper". Not sure if it would stand me in much good stead against MiniSRD's skills, though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-277635 Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:00:28 +0000 SRD 277635@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>MiniSRD won the Velocast mini league for Tirreno Adriatico ! quite pleased with her DS skills :) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258977 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 07:46:29 +0000 gembo 258977@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bax, plenty folk above me who did not pick froomey. Sorry to bang on, anyone should pick anyone. Froome is obvious is all I am saying but you are saying he isn't obvious. But again I do not mind I have no axe to grind. One thing though, if his form goes on like this next year and the year after we will be in lance territory so I hope he wins his double then starts to diminish in power like a normal person.</p> <p>What happened yesterday I was out at a leaving do?</p> <p>EDIT, Got it, he crashed (twice) as we have discussed previously, my view that he will win this race if he does not crash, though the Angliru on the last day Is formidable.</p> <p>Chaves not doing it anymore though Nibs is there. So maybe it will get more interesting . </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258960 Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:27:37 +0000 minus six 258960@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>..or instead of an outright ban - how about</p> <p>"you can pick froome in 2018, but if you do, be advised that your potential league victory may be severely tainted by association"</p> <p>that's fine with me dude, i'll leave the boy out of my squad </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258945 Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:07:18 +0000 minus six 258945@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo</p> <p>you be going on about froome again as if my selecting him means a guaranteed league win</p> <p>but that's absurd, others have been known to pick him also</p> <p>and the events of today's stage are certainly what i expect from the vuelta</p> <p>but let's put it to the test </p> <p>next year, we could run the grand tour leagues on the understanding that no one is allowed to pick froome</p> <p>then we'll see how it pans out</p> <p>it'll be a froome free fantasy for all </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258847 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:06:03 +0000 gembo 258847@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bax, looks like you are going to win this league like the TdF? Both with Froomey? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258846 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:01:52 +0000 Min 258846@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Argh, Chaves, argh! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258836 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:50:57 +0000 gembo 258836@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had winner today but wee Chaves cracked </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258832 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:01:05 +0000 minus six 258832@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>it is the second time i picked him, gembo</p> <p>but i only picked him this time, because i felt i could get by on this tour without a sprinter or breakaway specialist, and still have some gc contenders to choose from, should froome DNF. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258823 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 18:57:55 +0000 gembo 258823@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@bax, how many times have you picked Froome then? </p> <p>Agreed he pulled some crazy shit when young like identity theft, fraud etc to get noticed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=4#post-258764 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 13:07:41 +0000 minus six 258764@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>froome might be an obvious pick but he comes at a significant cost and doesn't necessarily win many stages</p> <p>i don't have him down as an automatic pick, there's a fair bit to weigh up first</p> <p>the younger froome had some semblance of personality but Sky PR did a job on him and now he is permanently on-message</p> <p>this also why they ditched brad w prematurely, they just couldn't groom him to fit the mould </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-258762 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 13:01:14 +0000 gembo 258762@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Amir, I do not think he is currently cheating no, I think Legal doping</p> <p>I think the europeans are pointing to his meteoric rise which is put down to Biharzia. Whereas they put it down to doping.</p> <p>I think they are all at it and I do not mind. </p> <p>Nice that Landa did to Froome what Froome did to Wiggins.</p> <p>I think it is great that we have British, Irish, American, Australian, Canadian cyclists in addition to the rest of the non-English speaking world who have always been into cycling. I do not need people to be whiter than white. Merckx himself was fond of the Billy Whizz and Coppi talked openly of La Bomba </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-258759 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:48:02 +0000 Min 258759@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em> I struggle to warm to his personality, or find it. </em><br /> Lol, yes. I wanted to say that too but you said it better! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-258758 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:45:31 +0000 amir 258758@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Almost the whole of continental Europe thinks he is doping and/or mechanical doping."</p> <p>Could be because he's winning? And on a bike? And not French? I would be gloriously disappointed if he were and don't currently believe he's cheating . But it' not been long enough since the last scandal in cycling to be shocked.</p> <p>And of course other recent Grand Tour winners have had a bit of smoke - the great Contador and our own Brad.</p> <p>I've no objection to good teamwork winning the grand tours. They are team sports after all, and I think on the balance that this interaction between the team and individual spices it up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-258756 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:38:32 +0000 gembo 258756@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Min. I never pick him because he is too obvious a pick. He is going to win the Vuelta though unless he crashes. I struggle to warm to his personality, or find it. But that is me. Not him. One of his parents had a British passport. Almost the whole of continental Europe thinks he is doping and/or mechanical doping. These days I feel that will be legal doping. </p> <p>I think there was a Vuelta thread but I could not find it either when I wanted to object to Sunweb kicking Barguil out. (he was in my team). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-258752 Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:29:34 +0000 Min 258752@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>(I thought there was a Vuelta thread?)</p> <p>I am going to come out of the Froome cupboard and admit I struggle to like him. Nothing wrong with him at all and yet every day I feel a tad disappointed that he retains the appropriately coloured jersey. </p> <p>Maybe it is because his "Britishness" appears to have come from having once watched an episode of Dad's Army (or equivalent) but I think it might be because he is frankly a bit dull. At least he has finally managed to win a stage of something now but most of his success seems to come from having his team drag him up the course not too far away from the front while other riders provide the excitement.</p> <p>Maybe I am being unfair but I expect that if I feel this way then others do too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255813 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:42:34 +0000 amir 255813@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The one guy who refused the TUE might be an exception."</p> <p>I was in two minds about this (possibly because I don't know all the facts). But at this time of year I may struggle without hayfever relief (and indeed asthma relief). But TUEs aren't (yet) required for commuting, cafe rides or audax. Definitely some mechanical doping going on in the first of these. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255810 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:32:47 +0000 gembo 255810@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@amir, none of them are Persil White. Their haematocrit levels will all be the max they can be without not being legal etc. The power wattage output guy will be along in a minute to say that all of their power output is Borderline. The one guy who refused the TUE might be an exception. They can all try to copy Sky. Did you know David Millar was having dinner with Dave Brailsford one night in 2004 when the french police arrested David Millar. [wiki says]. Landa may struggle to lead a team as good as the team that has Landa as number 2</p> <p>I think Froome does well, plays all the percentages. Won it without ever winnig a stage He is a twig, as over 6ft and weighs 10 stone. He devotes his whole life to the tour, he improves where he is weak (descending) he is a consummate professional. And yet, I will go for Bardet any day. Froome also too obvious a pick for me.</p> <p>The rules of fantasy league also favour Froome and some others. Yates as metioned finished one place below Dan Marton is that right? But 500 fewer fantasy velo points or something like that.</p> <p>I like playing the game though and obvipously would have had better than fifth if Majka, Porte and Fuglsang had stayed in the hunt. I did win the other league I was in, very late in the day [but had been there since the start just made gains with Barguil and built on that]. CCE just more wise than Fietsclub Balerno? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255798 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:01:40 +0000 shuggiet 255798@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not childish at all iwrats. Especially as the one directly above him in second last place is his dad..he must have predicted that, at a much better level than his team prediction.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255783 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:16:03 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 255783@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"special mention to republic of leith for fourth spot without picking Froome." Thanks @gembo</p> <p>I can't for the life of me remember why I decided not to pick Froome (or contador/quintana) </p> <p>Got a bit unlucky with Porte and Cav crashing out early I think. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255772 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:39:52 +0000 paddyirish 255772@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had a shocker- lost Izaguirre on day 1 and 3 others during the race. 2 of my 5 finishers scored 2 points between them.</p> <p>Agree with Amir both on thoughts on Froome and the strange scoring Thought Thomas de Gendt scored very poorly given what he gave to the race- 1000km + in breaks with lots of KOM and PGreen Jersey points. (3rd overall in KOM). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255769 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:35:23 +0000 amir 255769@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't get the negativity on Froome eg <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40692045" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40692045</a></p> <p>I can't help feeling it's mainly media generated.<br /> The fact is that the UK now has a four-time winner, apparently clean, of one of the toughest, most spectacular sporting events there is. 6 or so years ago there were none.<br /> He does have support from a good team, but it is a team sport. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255767 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:30:40 +0000 amir 255767@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I had Bohanni on my team. He really didn't do well but somehow managed to get 500 pts, whereas as Yates, white jersey winner and consistently in the top 10 only got 750. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255762 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:01:11 +0000 Cyclingmollie 255762@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm pleased with my team selected on likeability. Contador? I hear you ask. He survived major brain surgery early in his career so I gave him a bye. Aru was a lucky guess. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255756 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 07:58:09 +0000 I were right about that saddle 255756@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gembo</p> <p>I see. Has anyone plotted up price versus points for historical races? If Nate Silver was on CCE this is where he might start the search for undervalued assets.</p> <p>I once took part in a dead pool run by actuaries. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255754 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 07:14:54 +0000 gembo 255754@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Iwrats, there is a big element of luck involved. Some riders do better than others who are next to them on GC - Dan Martin V Simon Yares? The rules of the fantasy league are not exactly same as the actual but quite close.</p> <p> Sagan would normally give you huge points. Just picking Froome would move you up ten places. (Assuming you did not pick Froome by osmosis)</p> <p>Three of my more costly riders to buy, Porte, Fuglsang and Makjka all fell off. Broken everything, broken wrist and sore everything . But two of my cheapest picks, Barguil and Uran were the highest scorers per point paid (EBH also very good value for six points but I did not have him this year).</p> <p>Just picking Sky riders would have been a fair tactic. Next year it will be interesting to see if that team stays together. Obviously Lanada is offski.</p> <p> Bardet needs to learn to time trial? to beat Froome and also Uran who both ride the percentages and know the TT will help. Crazy drug fuelled mountain breakaways do not feature any more. Micro doping and long flat stages lead to a tour of exciting highlights interspersed with dullness.</p> <p>A big Canadian lad I was cycling with in Bedfordshire also mentioned Venus Gases. Must google them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255753 Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:36:08 +0000 I were right about that saddle 255753@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is it childish to be amused that 'Better than ^^' came last? </p> <p>Seventeenth out of twenty seven with a team chosen by osmosis - not bad for my first year. Next year I shall choose by electrophoresis, or, if budget permits, quadrupole mass spectrometry. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255744 Sun, 23 Jul 2017 20:49:18 +0000 gembo 255744@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Well done to bax and special mention to republic of leith for fourth spot without picking Froome. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17857&page=3#post-255650 Fri, 21 Jul 2017 23:36:04 +0000 MrSRD 255650@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not on the podium this edition, I'm afraid.... </p>