http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Cyclist v truck en Wed, 13 May 2026 02:10:31 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254647 Fri, 07 Jul 2017 12:51:00 +0000 stiltskin 254647@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not really a 'minor' mistake by the cyclist though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254623 Fri, 07 Jul 2017 09:54:15 +0000 Luath 254623@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From the link posted by @sallyhinch:<br /> "[who is to blame?] A system that thinks it’s acceptable to mix human beings and enormous vehicles with very limited visibility, and hopes that nobody makes a minor mistake." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254604 Fri, 07 Jul 2017 08:17:59 +0000 I were right about that saddle 254604@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just e-mailed Lothian Buses to say thanks to the driver who hung way back to let me pull out round the roadworks on Craigmillar Park last night.</p> <p>Lovely bit of driving - anticipation and then the sending of a message by his or her road position. They could just have steamed on, maybe leading to a situation like the one in the video, but chose to be helpful and mellow.</p> <p>The police motorcycling manual has a great system - I(TUG)PSGA - Information (Take Use Give) Position Speed Gears Acceleration - and it was almost like both of us were using it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254602 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 23:29:56 +0000 gembo 254602@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Was almost taken out today by van pulling trailer with a digger on it. Curiously just after road works forcing me to take dominant primary, except that is where the driver wanted to be so I had to brake to avoid the convoy and wait then resume. Gratifyingly due to complete traffic mayhem in tollcross today I was at my desk working whilst digger trailing man was still stuck outside the stamp shop at grove street.</p> <p>I do not have a sixth sense but maybe shoulder check just about often enough. </p> <p>Take care out there </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254597 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 22:18:34 +0000 Cyclingmollie 254597@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/WupLf2"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4003/35764763765_eb9678bdba.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254592 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 19:11:26 +0000 sallyhinch 254592@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A more detailed and measured response <a href="https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2017/07/06/who-is-to-blame/" rel="nofollow">https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2017/07/06/who-is-to-blame/</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254587 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:17:20 +0000 sallyhinch 254587@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Also you don't see the rider who got hit actually arrive at the junction (he's already there when the camera arrives) so you can't tell if he filtered there or if the lorry pulled up alongside. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254585 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:14:19 +0000 sallyhinch 254585@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I don't know that an ASL would have helped, although it's surprising there isn't one given how many bikes there were at that junction. It looks like the guy who got hit was *just* in front of the lorry all the way across the junction (in the driver's blind spot) and gets caught when the lorry drifts close to the curb on the bend in the road. A painted cycle lane *might* have helped, if it encouraged the driver to keep further out whether he thought there were cyclists there or not. Obviously a proper segregated track would be better. The road seems to be plenty wide. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254582 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:11:35 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 254582@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yeah, I was amazed a junction right by the Thames didn't have an ASL either. Though with that number of cyclists, it may have caused its own problems.</p> <p>For an HGV, it was pretty sharp off the line which may have caught out some of the riders. Either towing an empty trailer or driver making a pointless point? Maybe both. Still not good riding though. Camera wearer seemed intent on aiming for the same non-existent gap as the guy who nearly ended up under the wheels. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254581 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:08:52 +0000 splitshift 254581@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@ frenchy, yes very obvious, in fact when I first saw it I wondered why the bikes weren't in it, then there isn't one !!! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254579 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:36:36 +0000 Frenchy 254579@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Seems like an obvious place to stick an ASL to me. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254577 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:35:03 +0000 splitshift 254577@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes indeed, very well worded too on your post !!! Surely there must be something that can be done to make things safer , no one actually wants to hurt anyone ????? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254576 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:34:13 +0000 Frenchy 254576@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Presume you mean this one: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHvIhC4rcXA" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHvIhC4rcXA</a><br /> I discovered in reading a discussion about the arrows on the road are advisory unless there's also text (e.g., "TURN LEFT"). So the cyclist wasn't doing anything illegal in going straight on. </p> <p>I won't be following his lead, though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254575 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:23:02 +0000 sallyhinch 254575@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I think I know the one you mean - where there are a load of cyclists waiting at the lights, and then one gets hit after clearing the junction? The driver then gets out and gives him hell for coming up the inside ... All in a bit of road where there was no real room for both truck and bike. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=17900#post-254574 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:18:46 +0000 splitshift 254574@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Just seen a video on Facebook , cyclist hits, / truck hits cyclist . Don't know how to upload videos etc, scary! </p>