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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton</title>
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<title>Rosie on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;If anyone wants to clean up with a shovel and buckets, I'll take the pollution for my rhubarb and roses.
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<title>chdot on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;This sort of thing MUST be banned.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Riders don't even clean up the pollution created by their vehicles.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/old-town/thousands-expected-for-riding-of-the-marches-in-edinburgh-1-4561675&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/old-town/thousands-expected-for-riding-of-the-marches-in-edinburgh-1-4561675&#60;/a&#62;
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<title>Rosie on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 12:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;This kind of thing reminds me of rentiers howling about miners getting 40 hour weeks, or factory workers a week's holiday circa 1910. It's unthinking entitlement challenged and therefore resentful.
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<title>gibbo on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260706</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 12:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;Any form of special event which disrupts traffic, from motorcycle gatherings to walks over the Queensferry Crossing, raises the hackles of motorists. &#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Mosques raise the hackles of Islamphobes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Gay bars/cafes with rainboy flags raise the hackles of homophobes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;People speaking Polish on British public transport raises the hackles of Xenophobes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Bigots going to be bigots. And self-important children and going to act like self-important children on the rare occasions the world isn't being organised specially for them.
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260697</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 09:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>I were right about that saddle</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Every single day in every single one of Scotland's cities is a 'car gathering' far larger than the Badenoch Bad Boys' Rothiemurcus Rumble.
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<title>chdot on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260695</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 09:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>chdot</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;What is a 'motorcycle gathering'?&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.welcometoscotland.com/things-to-do/events/aviemore-cairngorms/thunder-in-the-glens&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.welcometoscotland.com/things-to-do/events/aviemore-cairngorms/thunder-in-the-glens&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They are even WELCOME!
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<title>SRD on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260694</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 09:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Slamman was lovely - their church group does a bakesale as a fundraiser (just donations) and lots of folk roundabout there waving - even offering their own refueling stop.  their tea was a lifesaver. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Kirkliston felt much less welcoming. Big queues of traffic and grumpy, inefficient marshals.
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<title>Morningsider on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260693</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 09:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;This can't be right - the good burghers of Slamannan are used to road closures and the sight of people wearing outlandish clothes - as they have an annual Orange Walk.
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260692</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 09:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>I were right about that saddle</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Rumour has it that the Guardian pays £90 for 1,000-word thought pieces. Johnson Press has much less money than them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If we read and reflect on these articles it's entirely possible we've put more time into them than the journalist who wrote them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What is a 'motorcycle gathering'? How does a walk over the not yet open Queensferry Crossing disrupt traffic?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It's just a pile of words to fill some space on a sheet of paper.
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<title>gembo on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260689</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 08:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yeah frothers but boy do they froth
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<title>chdot on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260688</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 08:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Motorists may need to stop feeling hard done by and start thanking their lucky stars they can just drive where they like for the cost of a litre of petrol&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Well we only have the frothers opinions that drivers feel &#34;hard done by&#34; or that there is a 'war on them'.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Selfish and over privileged applies to many who imagine they are superior, have enhanced rights and law breaking is what 'others' do.
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<title>gembo on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260686</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 08:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>gembo</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;He does list some dark places in falkirkshire where the lonely cyclist needs to pedal fast.  Routing PfS through these spots  may do little to encourage the populace to take to their bikes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Shame some nice descents&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Motorists may need to stop feeling hard done by and start thanking their lucky stars they can just drive where they like for the cost of a litre of petrol
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<title>amir on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260684</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 08:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>amir</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;The benefit of mass events like pfs and the marathons is that they do promote sports for normal people. Given the health problems that this country has, that must be seen as a positive thing. And places with a more positive life balance are happy to shut streets to traffic on a weekly basis
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<title>chdot on "Curious (unhelpful?) article by Alastair Dalton"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18140#post-260680</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 07:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Seems to be saying may soon be enough segregated cycle infrastructure to 'sacrifice' things like PfS. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Any form of special event which disrupts traffic, from motorcycle gatherings to walks over the Queensferry Crossing, raises the hackles of motorists. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It is also impossible to hold a mass road cycling event without causing disruption and inconvenience. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However, residents of places like Glenmavis, Slamannan, Maddiston and Whitecross may have seen the closures as being imposed on them, and felt as excluded as having a railway line built through with no station. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But perhaps in the future, with continued enhanced spending on improvements like segregated cycle lanes where traffic is busiest, maybe such events will no longer be necessary?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/alastair-dalton-boosting-cycling-s-popularity-must-keep-everyone-on-side-1-4560532&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/alastair-dalton-boosting-cycling-s-popularity-must-keep-everyone-on-side-1-4560532&#60;/a&#62;
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