http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Pencaitland Railway Path Locked en Tue, 19 May 2026 22:47:20 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281595 Tue, 01 May 2018 14:40:35 +0000 chdot 281595@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>GRAVEL?!</p> <p>I only remember tarmac. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281594 Tue, 01 May 2018 14:17:54 +0000 Cyclingmollie 281594@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Dalkeith High's sports ground at the back of the school was red blaes. </em></p> <p>Luxury. We had gravel. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281593 Tue, 01 May 2018 13:50:53 +0000 I were right about that saddle 281593@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>My knees just squirmed at the memory of falling over on that stuff as a kid.</em></p> <p>We were handed Dettol and a wire brush back in my hockey days. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281591 Tue, 01 May 2018 13:37:45 +0000 Schemieradge 281591@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Nice.. I might be tempted to venture home that way again now.. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281583 Tue, 01 May 2018 13:05:14 +0000 threefromleith 281583@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ah, memories. Dalkeith High's sports ground at the back of the school was red blaes. You never wanted to get too energetic at sports for fear of a fall on that stuff. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281561 Tue, 01 May 2018 11:17:22 +0000 Trixie 281561@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"Red blaes"</p> <p>My knees just squirmed at the memory of falling over on that stuff as a kid. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281560 Tue, 01 May 2018 11:14:32 +0000 chdot 281560@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“very smooth red blaes”</p> <p>Mmm, hope drainage has been sorted in places it used to flood. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-281543 Tue, 01 May 2018 09:32:59 +0000 Cyclingmollie 281543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The resurfacing work seems to be finished. The car park is open again and it and the path (as far as the Elphinston connection) are now surfaced with very smooth red blaes (though these surfaces now go by different names, I think). </p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/H4JP9X"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/956/26952930307_f89d780f03.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-278581 Sun, 25 Mar 2018 19:54:42 +0000 Frenchy 278581@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tried it anyway, heading west. Got to about Elphinstone, where I met a Road Closed sign. Went on anyway, but the surface became unsuitable for a road bike, so I had to turn round come back via Elphinstone </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-278548 Sun, 25 Mar 2018 10:44:37 +0000 Cyclingmollie 278548@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Having said that two cyclists have just gone around the gate to the side and joined the path. So who knows. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-278547 Sun, 25 Mar 2018 10:41:33 +0000 Cyclingmollie 278547@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm there now and it is still locked. Road closed sign now too. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-278543 Sun, 25 Mar 2018 09:37:58 +0000 Cyclingmollie 278543@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'd guess it almost certainly is. They were less than half way through the piles of surfacing material last week. I had to go round by Cousland and rejoin the path at Ormiston. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-278540 Sun, 25 Mar 2018 09:16:24 +0000 Frenchy 278540@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Anyone know if the gate at Crossgatehall end is still locked? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-278052 Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:06:32 +0000 Schemieradge 278052@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I thought I read they were maintaining access throughout the works... perhaps only if you're capable of lifting a bike over your head.</p> <p>Anyhow I forgot to add to this post that the new gate which was installed as a result of the cattle escape had been removed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176&page=2#post-278023 Tue, 20 Mar 2018 11:53:51 +0000 Cyclingmollie 278023@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>This gate is locked at the Crossgatehall end while resurfacing work is done. A notice says the path is still open but you would have to lift your bike over the gate. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-264274 Tue, 24 Oct 2017 17:44:50 +0000 chdot 264274@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>ELC told <a href="https://www.scotways.com">ScotWays</a> -</p> <p>"</p> <p>They say the gate's now open and that the fences have been upgraded fences to keep the cattle in the field. They intend to adapt the gate so that it ever needs locking again you'll still be able to get by. They also apologise for the delay.</p> <p>" </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-263985 Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:38:36 +0000 Schemieradge 263985@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The gate's now open! (the locked gate that is, the unlocked gate to replace it is well and truly still in effect).</p> <p>I use 1.75 26" tyres and don't have any problems with the railway path unless:<br /> 1. there has been a *lot* of rain. (It has been flooding in the winter and staying that way until spring. it didn't last winter though - maybe unusually dry winter)<br /> 2. a lot of horses have recently been down there (totally devastates the surface and makes it unrideable for a period)<br /> 3. there's a slurry-slick</p> <p>It's OK just now - just a couple of muddyish sections. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-263942 Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:43:30 +0000 Rob 263942@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Gates aside, how passable is this route this time of year? I'd been riding it on 25c road tyres but I'm guessing the hard packed mud sections will be a lot less fun when wet.</p> <p>What kind of bike/tyre are others using? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262992 Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:53:07 +0000 Cyclingmollie 262992@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Maybe we could crowdsource a mel and some stabs and fix it ourselves. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262967 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 20:29:04 +0000 Cyclops 262967@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That is just ridiculous. So rather than getting the farmer to build a decent fence to keep his cows where they're meant to be (probably not that difficult as tens of thousands of other farmers seem to manage) they build obstacles across the core path and restrict users' access? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262962 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 19:52:17 +0000 Schemieradge 262962@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes the access officer is aware of this.</p> <p>So still locked tonight... here's the current state of play..</p> <p>Posts for a new fence in the car park:</p> <p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/4sqwhqte4b/"><img src="https://s1.postimg.org/4sqwhqte4b/171009-_IMG_20171009_181513923_HDR.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/413jscxazv/"><img src="https://s1.postimg.org/413jscxazv/171009-_IMG_20171009_181533408_HDR.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/5zzqip912z/"><img src="https://s1.postimg.org/5zzqip912z/171009-_IMG_20171009_181608570.jpg"></a></p> <p>A new gate with a latch on the path. Not really a solution I'm particularly enamoured with.</p> <p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/72zftl4n8r/"><img src="https://s1.postimg.org/72zftl4n8r/171009-_IMG_20171009_181648396.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/5wu5wyi0az/"><img src="https://s1.postimg.org/5wu5wyi0az/171009-_IMG_20171009_181702173.jpg"></a></p> <p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/3caa8cea0r/"><img src="https://s1.postimg.org/3caa8cea0r/171009-_IMG_20171009_181718841.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262945 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 15:33:52 +0000 Murun Buchstansangur 262945@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Is it not EL Council itself which has locked its own gate in this case? Which is ridiculous. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262940 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 14:18:29 +0000 fimm 262940@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From <a href="https://www.scotways.com/faq/law-on-statutory-access-rights/236-a-local-landowner-has-fenced-off-a-path-that-is-well-used-by-local-people-and-has-put-up-a-sign-saying-no-trespassers-what-can-i-do-about-it">ScotWays</a></p> <p>"<em>Landowners should not put up fences or signs to obstruct people from exercising their access rights and the local authority has power to ... remove obstructions and recover the cost from the landowner. Contact your local authority Access Officer and ask him to take action."</em></p> <p>There's a list of Access Officers <a href="http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/sites/default/files//docs/scottish_access_officer_contact_list.pdf">here</a>. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262936 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:56:34 +0000 Roibeard 262936@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>is it lawful to lock the gate and provide no alternative access to a core path?</em></p> <p>I don't think so, given that locked gates are mentioned by name in the legislation.</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262929 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:30:28 +0000 Snowy 262929@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Perhaps it could be Fix-My-Street'd as an obstruction to a path / right-of-way?</p> <p>While acknowledging the right of the landowner to secure their livestock, is it lawful to lock the gate and provide no alternative access to a core path? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262898 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 07:57:08 +0000 Schemieradge 262898@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There does seem to be some action on the fencing... a few larger fenceposts have appeared along the cattle field in the car park, and a couple of new posts a small distance down the railway path as if there's going to be another gate. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262892 Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:42:22 +0000 Roibeard 262892@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's no reason for locking a gate to keep cattle in a field.</p> <p>Rather it's to prevent people opening a gate - keep an eye on this one, as if it persists for long enough, the right of way may be lost (7 years, perhaps?).</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262882 Sun, 08 Oct 2017 18:06:53 +0000 Cyclingmollie 262882@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Still locked but now a sign dated 30 September explaining the problem.</p> <p><a href="https://flic.kr/p/C9hF4b"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4479/23722628788_7277b73655.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262230 Sat, 30 Sep 2017 13:36:02 +0000 jules878 262230@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Still locked this morn, but 13 @EdinburghBelles were not to be diverted, so climbed over the gate and hoiked our bikes across.</p> <p>No sign of any cattle or any other livestock in any of the fields we passed. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18176#post-262070 Thu, 28 Sep 2017 22:44:49 +0000 I were right about that saddle 262070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I go that way once a year to deliver a Christmas pudding. I will suffer no let or hindrance in the execution of that duty. </p>