http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Collision data added to Cyclestreets en Thu, 21 May 2026 06:47:41 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262968 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 20:51:29 +0000 Frenchy 262968@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Data covers 2005-2016, although the 2016 data doesn't seem to be included if you manually select an area to be filtered. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262953 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:49:54 +0000 Ed1 262953@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Around Edinburgh seems to be morning fatalities but around Glasgow seems more evening. What year does this data go back to? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262932 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:45:00 +0000 Ed1 262932@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Things such as did the police attended the scene, or if someone stayed in hospital can only be used as proxy for how “serious” ( in respect to forces not outcomes) the accident was if stay in hospital may depend on if have other conditions age, how busy hospital is how someone copes and possibly also status of the person, if first minister and the hospital has doubts may keep in just to be sure may be etc. </p> <p>If fatal then may be some measure but even then, someone may have a minor accident and die or a more serious one and live. It may depend on the fitness of the person the weather and how quickly the emergency services arrive and if has any pre-existing conditions and how well their body copes with incident. If a ship sinks and 10 people in life boat some may die before others in the same cold temperature.</p> <p>Things such as whether the police arrive or not could be determined by if someone reported it, police workloads and relative status, if the accident involved if the queen may be more likely than a lesser person etc. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262928 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:27:27 +0000 crowriver 262928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>""Did Police Officer Attend Scene of Accident: No "<br /> They did. There were two of them."</p> <p>Maybe the question should be: Did the Police fill out an Incident Report? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262923 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 12:06:38 +0000 Frenchy 262923@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I just did a quick comparison between Mayfield Road, Minto Street and Dalkeith Road, for the stretches between East/West Preston Street and West Mains Road/Lady Road.</p> <p>The data is understandably a bit noisy, but at first glance it doesn't look like a glowing endorsement of the QBC. Importantly, this does <em>not</em> take into account the numbers of people cycling on each street.</p> <p>The QBC was installed in 2012.</p> <p>For the years 2005-2011, the average number of incidents involving cyclists on the three streets were:</p> <p>Mayfield: 2.7<br /> Minto: 2.7<br /> Dalkeith 1.3</p> <p>For the years 2012-2016, the average number of incidents involving cyclists on the three streets were:</p> <p>Mayfield: 6.2<br /> Minto: 4.4<br /> Dalkeith: 2.0</p> <p>So although incident rates have gone up on all three streets (presumably because there are simply more people cycling?), they've increased <em>more</em> on Mayfield Road. This could be because there's been a greater increase in the number of people cycling on Mayfield Road due to the introduction of the QBC, or it could be because the QBC actually increases the risks to cyclists. It could also be both, of course.</p> <p>Interestingly, 2012 was actually one of the safest years for cycling on Mayfield Road (only two incidents, compared to 7 and 9 in 2011 and 2012). </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262922 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 12:03:52 +0000 wingpig 262922@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Wrong info from my incident where a perpetrator in a Vectra took out my Kaff frame:<br /> <code>"Did Police Officer Attend Scene of Accident: <strong>No</strong> "</code><br /> They did. There were two of them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262916 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 11:08:02 +0000 HankChief 262916@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>More likely to be checking their phone to see what is going on in the world? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262915 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 11:03:23 +0000 jdanielp 262915@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Ed1 more sleepy drivers out in the mornings? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262914 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:29:48 +0000 Roibeard 262914@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@Ed1 - I suspect it's because the danger from drivers is greatest as there are most drivers on the road.</p> <p>Irritatingly, I haven't found data to back this up (e.g. by comparing with the Netherlands, where cyclists are kept apart from rush hour drivers).</p> <p>Robert </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262913 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:19:52 +0000 Ed1 262913@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>It would seem the large majority of fatalities occur between 7 Am and 11 AM is this because more people cycle at this time than the rest of the day or a more dangerous time to cycle. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262910 Mon, 09 Oct 2017 09:30:15 +0000 Frenchy 262910@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I was just looking at this.</p> <p>I looked up the collision I was involved in a few years ago, and thought there was some problem with the data - the date <em>seemed</em> right, but the time of day and my age were wrong. Then I remembered that I'd initially reported the incident as happening at a different junction (Rankin Drive instead of Rankin Road). So my collision is there too, but it's not at exactly the right place.</p> <p>So there were two, apparently almost identical, incidents at exactly the same junction within a few days of each other, and nothing else in ten years. Weird. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18189#post-262238 Sat, 30 Sep 2017 14:53:59 +0000 SRD 262238@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://bikedata.cyclestreets.net/collisions/#12/55.9322/-3.1606/opencyclemap" rel="nofollow">https://bikedata.cyclestreets.net/collisions/#12/55.9322/-3.1606/opencyclemap</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/campaigners-map-plots-every-gb-collision-involving-cyclists/021932" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/campaigners-map-plots-every-gb-collision-involving-cyclists/021932</a></p> <p>The STATS19 collision data sucked into the map is published by the Department for Transport and sourced from the police – it relates to personal injury incidents on public roads.</p> <p>The Bikedata map – which uses OpenCycleMap as its base – is billed as "data to support getting more people cycling" and also includes information on cycle parking, cycle theft, planning applications and traffic counts. </p>