http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Hampton at Hilton en Tue, 19 May 2026 15:49:58 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-304951 Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:31:30 +0000 EdinburghCycleCam 304951@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Objection sent as well, making basically the same points as others have made. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-304943 Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:14:38 +0000 davidsonsdave 304943@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks @neddie. I've cribbed and added a bit about it (supposedly) being illegal to drive on the footway and that it is around 200m away from a High School and 300m away from a Primary School, and mentioned about coaches and HGV blind spots. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-304928 Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:43:08 +0000 Ribena 304928@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks Neddie, I’ve cribbed from your response and added a note about bollards. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-304923 Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:16:05 +0000 Frenchy 304923@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Thanks @neddie. I'll include a request for bollards when I submit mine as well. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-304922 Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:07:22 +0000 chdot 304922@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>WHY is CEC even contemplating this??</p> <p>Perhaps something to do with general failures of the Planning system and inadequate attention to the detail of how people would reach the hotel... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-304921 Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:42:52 +0000 neddie 304921@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's my objection (feel free to crib):</p> <p><em>I am writing to object to traffic order RSO/19/04, redetermination at Fountainbridge, for the following reasons:</p> <p>1. The loading bay encourages and legitimises parking on the footway, setting a terrible precedent. This will no doubt lead to increased "pavement parking" elsewhere in the city, as drivers come to see this as normal practice. It also goes against the forthcoming measures (parliament bill) to make pavement parking illegal.<br /> 2. The loading bay takes up 100% of the council-owned part of the pavement. This means that in future the private owners of the adjacent footway could block it off at any time, without having to give any reason.<br /> 3. The footway is not likely to be strong enough to take the weight of enormous motor-coaches and lorries. The flagstones will get damaged, leading trip-hazards and potentially to the elderly tripping and falling (which can be fatal).<br /> 4. There is plenty of room on the carriageway for a loading bay, so there is no need to take it from the footway. In the past this section of carriageway was 3 lanes (and is now only 2 very wide lanes).<br /> 5. No pedestrian is going to be able to use the loading bay as footway, even when the loading bay is unoccupied - people will be too fearful of a car or coach driving on to it at any moment.</p> <p>I would be prepared to withdraw my objection if the loading bay were to be moved from the footway onto the carriageway (and there is no reduction in the width of the footway).<br /> </em> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-304920 Wed, 17 Apr 2019 16:41:43 +0000 neddie 304920@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>RSO/19/04 is now out: Redetermination at Fountainbridge - to convert the "layby" outside the Hampton Hotel on the footway formally to carriageway, thus legitimising the "pavement parking" by massive motor coaches, etc.</p> <p><a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2840/rso1904_-_redetermination" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/2840/rso1904_-_redetermination</a></p> <p>Please object/comment if this concerns you <strong>by 30th April</strong> by emailing <a href="mailto:trafficorders@edinburgh.gov.uk">trafficorders@edinburgh.gov.uk</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-303820 Tue, 26 Mar 2019 19:29:08 +0000 gembo 303820@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@jonty, this makes me sick. Prefer the feckers breaking the law and doing what they like to them doing what they like and claiming the law is on their side. Basically they are blocking the carriageway </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-303818 Tue, 26 Mar 2019 18:37:19 +0000 jonty 303818@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Huh!</em></p> <p>TRO to turn the pretend-layby into a layby.</p> <p><a href="https://www.tellmescotland.gov.uk/notices/city-of-edinburgh/traffic/00000204052?utm_source=tms&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=notice_alert" rel="nofollow">https://www.tellmescotland.gov.uk/notices/city-of-edinburgh/traffic/00000204052?utm_source=tms&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=notice_alert</a></p> <p>It also turns out that if you park on a pavement for long enough you can get the council to 'formalise' it into a road for you: <a href="http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/12182/plan" rel="nofollow">http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/12182/plan</a> <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/nqVMnd1ZHJL2" rel="nofollow">https://goo.gl/maps/nqVMnd1ZHJL2</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-266275 Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:28:15 +0000 gembo 266275@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>The next block also has single yellow so drop off for hotel taxis erptc. Already lot of pavement action </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-266274 Sun, 12 Nov 2017 18:23:22 +0000 Fountainbridge 266274@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I wondered the same about the double yellows. Looking at streetview from May 2016 there was originally a single yellow. </p> <p>Funny how when I complained to the council about the tactile island nothing happened, then Scottish worst drivers got involved and it was fixed the next day. I need to get a better publicist! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-265907 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 10:18:31 +0000 claire3000006 265907@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Any idea why these double yellows have mysteriously turned back into single yellows...? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-265171 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 20:54:10 +0000 gembo 265171@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Tactiles at Hampton Hilton have been tarmacked. Three little cones attempting to keep the cheeky out until lines can be joined up at the last remaining free parking. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-265121 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:18:35 +0000 I were right about that saddle 265121@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>There's a weird tactile island on <a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/52-62+Palmerston+Pl,+Edinburgh+EH12+5AY/@55.9499852,-3.2187675,3a,27.4y,206.7h,63.24t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sSKDe4CGHV1s6tNEq3ZuUgA!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x4887c7bacad57ee5:0x38883d2b3e0d2338">Rothesay Place here.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-265119 Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:11:30 +0000 gembo 265119@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Not this morning though, cheeky driver parked in the gap caused by a previous cheeky driver having not moved his or her car for the double yellows.</p> <p>I hope someone gets the car lifted, not fined that would be harsh, just inconvenienced for their cheek and having to go down the pound to get their car back. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-265036 Mon, 30 Oct 2017 21:51:36 +0000 SRD 265036@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>see also</p> <p><a href="https://swd.media/news/lothian/edinburgh-central/builders-blunder-leaves-tactile-paving-middle-busy-city-road-1-11940/" rel="nofollow">https://swd.media/news/lothian/edinburgh-central/builders-blunder-leaves-tactile-paving-middle-busy-city-road-1-11940/</a></p> <p>"Bowmer &amp; Kirkland, the builders who have recently completed the 228 room 3 star Hampton by Hilton hotel failed to make the necessary repairs to the road surface<br /> on Fountainbridge in Edinburgh." </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18300#post-265008 Mon, 30 Oct 2017 14:05:08 +0000 gembo 265008@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Lot of bad parking at This fountainbridge new hotel. Double yellows today meant no parking, even on the car length bit of road without double yellows. I am guessing the line painters were obstructed by a car? </p>