http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Is this the worst bit of cycling "infrastructure" in Edinburgh? en Tue, 19 May 2026 18:42:25 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-294060 Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:35:55 +0000 DaveC 294060@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>BAX said: "<em>hawthorn puncture right through a brand new marathon plus this afternoon on the raised part of the A90 path, disappointing </em></p> <p>Ditto. Saw it flying round on the front wheel, and stopped to wince as I pulled it out. A slight pisht but the tyre remained inflated so I carried on. At Cramond brig it was flat, so I changed the tube. No I realise I didn't check the rear tyre..... :-(</p> <p>I've been thinking about buying some liquid tyre puncture proofer to put in, but I have no idea what is good or not. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-290949 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 22:20:01 +0000 minus six 290949@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>not forgetting acsimpson's ongoing work badgering Cala Homes over their presumptions</p> <p>baseless chicanery begone ! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-290934 Tue, 11 Sep 2018 20:07:42 +0000 minus six 290934@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>while i have been carousing in glorious hero city murmansk</p> <p>it appears that comrade hankchief has scored a stunning victory</p> <p>in the removal of the unlawful agilent hill chicanes</p> <p>chapeau good sir, chapeau !</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1034098697200705541" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/hank_chief/status/1034098697200705541</a></p> <p>for we will toast your name on the winter icy mornings ahead </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-274465 Tue, 06 Feb 2018 08:51:01 +0000 acsimpson 274465@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Assuming he's from the southern housing then it may still be a few years unfortunately. It was always wimpey(?)s plan to do so. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-274432 Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:58:36 +0000 minus six 274432@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>muddy gate update</p> <p>i passed by at 14:30 today, and there was a surveyor with his tripod</p> <p>asked if this bit was being remodelled, and he said yes, it is </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-273949 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:10:02 +0000 Frenchy 273949@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Been a while since I went that way myself, but I was thinking of the narrow muddy bit by the gate. If there are other crap bits that I've forgotten about, then photos of those would be appreciated too. Doubt we'd have any luck with the chicanes though. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-273947 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 21:04:49 +0000 acsimpson 273947@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Frenchy,</p> <p>Are there any parts in particular which you would like a photo of? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-273944 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 20:17:10 +0000 gembo 273944@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Kevlar is bulletproof but not hawthorn proof. Not sure why the army doesn't stick hawthorns on the ends of bullets.</p> <p>Bad luck bax, bet that was a test of your thumbs changing a brand new SM+ </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-273938 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 19:03:23 +0000 minus six 273938@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>hawthorn puncture right through a brand new marathon plus this afternoon on the raised part of the A90 path</p> <p>disappointing </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-273930 Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:24:20 +0000 Frenchy 273930@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Chasing up as I said upthread - does anyone have any photos of the problem area? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-272358 Sat, 13 Jan 2018 20:50:33 +0000 acsimpson 272358@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IIRC The gate is currently owned by Earl of Rosebery. Given that they decided to install a new gate when the milk van crashed into the old one I don't imagine they are very interested in upgrading the access currently. Although if anyone want to go digging and see if Edinburgh Council could upgrade it with some of that cycle budget they are apparently struggling to spend then please do so.</p> <p>Taylor Wimpey (or AN Other national house builder) are busy purchasing the land over the road from the new housing from him in order to build more housing. We need to keep an eye on their planning application to ensure that it include the necessary upgrades to the path from Dalmeny. The planning applicaiton might be 16/06280/FUL if anyone has time to go digging through it and see what's included: <a href="https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=OIHR8AEWHTI00">https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/idoxpa-web/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&amp;keyVal=OIHR8AEWHTI00</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-272287 Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:41:20 +0000 Frenchy 272287@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Ta, not been that way for a while, so hadn't clocked that there was an extra path.</p> <p>I emailed someone at Sustrans a while ago, asking what the deal was with that muddy bit next to the gate. I don't think they ever got back to me, I'll chase it up. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-272285 Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:35:32 +0000 rider73 272285@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>the bit where you have to go around the gate and either squeeze between the gate and the post or around the post - both bits are very muddy and so is the cobble "line" you have to cross.</p> <p>the other path is not tarmaced and its on the leftcoming out from the new houses about 15 meters after youve exited the chicanes and are heading towards the gate to dalmeny.... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320&page=2#post-272283 Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:22:45 +0000 Frenchy 272283@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>the other path thats been made just further up has got steps on it </em></p> <p>Whereabout is this?</p> <p><em>wish they would do some "topping off" works to the gate further up - its surrounding edges are getting a rutted and muddy mess ! </em></p> <p>You mean the gate just west of the bridge over the railway line? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-272281 Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:52:11 +0000 rider73 272281@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>the other path thats been made just further up has got steps on it - but i'm sure with a little imagination and decent braking technique you could go down the edges of that?</p> <p>wish they would do some "topping off" works to the gate further up - its surrounding edges are getting a rutted and muddy mess ! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-272249 Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:43:32 +0000 acsimpson 272249@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I am deliberately refusing to go through their chicanery the grass is no slower although will probably become a quagmire soon. I haven't quite got to the point where I ignore the Northern one yet but if the southern ones become permanent then I'll be considering going through the hedge. Hopefully they will notice that the only thing their chicane is achieving is an ugly mess on their new turf which I'm sure wont please their customers any more than it pleases us.</p> <p>Dennis from Cala's previous email (6th Dec) stated:</p> <p><em>These have been put in place as a safety measure while we are installing the monobloc surface to our main road out of this phase. While these works are on going our clients have to access their properties from the Barratt side and so there will be increased traffic across the cycleway while these topping off works are completed. These works will be taking place over the next 2/3 months as we complete this phase of the site. It is our intention to remove the barriers thereafter.</em></p> <p>So if the chicanes are still there on the 6th of March or when the Cala side's roads are complete I'll be sending him another email. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-272126 Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:21:37 +0000 minus six 272126@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>really fed up of the chicane slalom now</p> <p>its an insult really, isn't it? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-268842 Wed, 06 Dec 2017 08:35:15 +0000 rider73 268842@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>pffft zig zag zig zag zig zag zig zag </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-268833 Tue, 05 Dec 2017 23:37:23 +0000 acsimpson 268833@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, I'm sure once it opens not using the lovely wide direct cycle path will be faster than using it and Cala (plus their customers) will wonder why many cyclists are choosing not to. But not once will they engage grey matter and produce a sensibke design. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-268693 Tue, 05 Dec 2017 09:24:07 +0000 rider73 268693@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>pffft more chicanes - wouldnt mind but that surface of "bricks" isnt the grippiest on that bit of section.</p> <p>i think when the estate opens up though there may be a way to use the tarmac to get to the back of the final set of flats (or even to the front of those) and then hard right onto the cycle path via 1 set of chicanes! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-268647 Mon, 04 Dec 2017 15:10:54 +0000 Frenchy 268647@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>“locked gate”</p> <p>? </em></p> <p><a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9812271,-3.3775202,3a,75y,248.09h,64.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbDlD1mcHDAoOXt--b9uMIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en">Here.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-268639 Mon, 04 Dec 2017 14:40:57 +0000 chdot 268639@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“locked gate”</p> <p>? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-268636 Mon, 04 Dec 2017 14:36:01 +0000 fiefster 268636@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Edit: @Beano and @biggles1982 also posted on this here: <a href="http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11145&amp;page=4#post-268634" rel="nofollow">http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11145&amp;page=4#post-268634</a></p> <p>Chicanes are multiplying. On the wee bit of cycle route from Dalmeny Main Street to Scotstoun Av, 2 more chicanes have been installed as a wee access road has opened up crossing the shared path. So that's 6 chicanes in a 0.2 mi stretch. </p> <p>At least they have cleared the grot on the north side of Main Street revealing a wide boulevard till you get to the locked gate. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-265633 Sun, 05 Nov 2017 13:51:48 +0000 crowriver 265633@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That'll be Harry Ronald Neil Primrose, Lord Dalmeny. Deputy Chairman of the British branch of Sotheby's; Deputy Lieutenant for the county of Midlothian; member of the Royal Company of Archers. </p> <p>Responsible for auctioning Jack Vettriano's painting The Singing Butler for £744,800.<br /> In 2013 rode in the Queen's carriage at Royal Ascot.</p> <p>Spends most of his time in London, or at his farm by Moffat. </p> <p>I daresay neither the Earl nor his estate managers could give a monkey's about the needs of cyclists. They're already suffering oiks trampling all over their estate, why give more than a grudgingly mean level of access to the blighters? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-265626 Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:59:21 +0000 gibbo 265626@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Yes definitely owned by Roseberry whose estate team clearly don't care</em></p> <p>But is there anything that stops the council from offering to fix it? (What would it cost? £200?) </p> <p>This is NCR 1, for goodness sake. You're meant to be able to cycle on it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-265623 Sun, 05 Nov 2017 01:47:31 +0000 acsimpson 265623@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes definitely owned by Roseberry whose estate team clearly don't care are they rode the old rubbish gate with a new rubbisher one. It will soon be sold for housing though and they will upgrade it. No doubt putting in non compliant chicanes to match Calas.</p> <p>I could post their responses about their rubbish but only if anyone hasn't seen it before. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-265512 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 16:56:28 +0000 Frenchy 265512@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I hear/had a hunch it might be owned by Rosebury, who would naturally refuse to do anything about it. </em></p> <p>I've emailed Sustrans asking them. Ironically, their Edinburgh building is named after a Rosebery. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-265511 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 16:45:22 +0000 Harts Cyclery 265511@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, it's a disgrace. Does anyone know why? I hear/had a hunch it might be owned by Rosebury, who would naturally refuse to do anything about it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-265483 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 09:40:18 +0000 Arellcat 265483@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>I can't get my recumbent handcycle over the kerb without grounding.</em></p> <p>I thought my velomobile was hard work amongst the chicanery of Dalmeny and SQ, but a handcycle must be even harder work. We both have huge turning circles and can't bump up kerbs. The only advantage I think I have is bumping down off kerbs.</p> <p>The stupid access between Dalmeny and the FRB - a key commuting route - was a factor in me moving south of Edinburgh instead of north of Edinburgh. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18320#post-265477 Fri, 03 Nov 2017 08:36:47 +0000 paddyirish 265477@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@handcyclist- I think that Dunfermline-Clackmannan railway has at least 2 entrances towards the western end which would be trouble as well. Shame as it is a really nice path. Similarly, I'd imagine cobbled narrow pathways under bridges on the canal having similar issues, and some of the cobbled outlets further west causing problems as well</p> <p>A sad state of affairs. I assume that you have talked to Sustrans about it and they have said it's the landowner/council's choice? </p>