http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: “Bike Life Edinburgh Launch” en Wed, 13 May 2026 03:15:53 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327&page=2#post-365307 Wed, 14 Dec 2022 18:58:35 +0000 HankChief 365307@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Sustrans are looking for Case studies for their new Bike Life revamp. Anyone willing to volunteer...</p> <p><a href="https://sustrans.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/share-your-story-in-the-new-walking-and-cycling-index-23" rel="nofollow">https://sustrans.onlinesurveys.ac.uk/share-your-story-in-the-new-walking-and-cycling-index-23</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327&page=2#post-361115 Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:43:38 +0000 chdot 361115@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>A related historical document -</p> <p><a href="http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1607-Final-CEC-Presentation-R08-to-panel.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1607-Final-CEC-Presentation-R08-to-panel.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327&page=2#post-361114 Thu, 02 Jun 2022 00:21:32 +0000 chdot 361114@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13474/walking-wheeling-and-cycling-boost-to-environment-and-economy" rel="nofollow">https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13474/walking-wheeling-and-cycling-boost-to-environment-and-economy</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327&page=2#post-361113 Thu, 02 Jun 2022 00:05:47 +0000 chdot 361113@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>New version being (officially) launched next week </p> <p>Now known as the Walking and Cycling Index 2021</p> <p><a href="https://www.sustrans.org.uk/the-walking-and-cycling-index/edinburgh-walking-and-cycling-index/" rel="nofollow">https://www.sustrans.org.uk/the-walking-and-cycling-index/edinburgh-walking-and-cycling-index/</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.sustrans.org.uk/media/10445/edinburgh-walking-and-cycling-index-2021.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.sustrans.org.uk/media/10445/edinburgh-walking-and-cycling-index-2021.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327&page=2#post-323869 Wed, 04 Mar 2020 13:35:54 +0000 unhurt 323869@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm going along. Might make the point that what "needs to happen" is for protected infra to actually HAPPEN - endless circular rounds of consulting that prevent infra going in lest some people who love their cars are annoyed at being inconvenienced has been happening relentlessly for years: time to try something else... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-323818 Tue, 03 Mar 2020 21:36:52 +0000 HankChief 323818@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Will be on Good Morning Scotland apparently...</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/John_Lauder/status/1234923836744851456?s=19" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/John_Lauder/status/1234923836744851456?s=19</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-322161 Thu, 06 Feb 2020 21:50:37 +0000 gembo 322161@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@chdot, very close yes. Not TROLLING. TROING</p> <p>Just read the rules of Corson again to lighten my existential angst.</p> <p>Any newbie google Corson The Rules and enjoy. Do also read the comments truly epic.</p> <p>I have a rule that i read Corson The Rules every two years. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-322159 Thu, 06 Feb 2020 21:38:18 +0000 chdot 322159@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“I do not think it is organised exactly like that</p> <p>What you have is a number of blokes using TROs etc to stop measures that would impact on cars as they like cars.”</p> <p>I think you’ve just contradicted yourself. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-322158 Thu, 06 Feb 2020 21:25:03 +0000 gembo 322158@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@snowy I do not think it is organised exactly like that</p> <p>What you have is a number of blokes using TROs etc to stop measures that would impact on cars as they like cars.</p> <p>So i will work with colleague BM and two yeas later the motorbike jumping the car sign at the top of new street is finally replaced with the two NO ENTRY SIGNS and the two Except Cyclists signs and finally cars such as taxis and private motors are no longer driven the wrong way down the street. </p> <p>BM’s colleagues argued that one sign was sufficient. Indeed in a same world a sign suggesting no Motorised traffic should be sufficient but in reality that one street needs four signs to stop drivers driving down it.</p> <p>Hope that makes sense? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-322157 Thu, 06 Feb 2020 21:07:19 +0000 Snowy 322157@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>If they don't know "What needs to happen" by now then they never will.</em></p> <p>There's plenty of evidence if we are prepared to recognise it that active travellers are being continuously and effectively trolled by the majority of decision-makers in CEC.</p> <p>(notwithstanding laudable efforts by certain individuals and teams) </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-322089 Thu, 06 Feb 2020 09:26:11 +0000 Blueth 322089@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"The third report"</p> <p>Jaw, jaw is better than action, to paraphrase Macmillan's quote of those famous words wrongly attributed to Churchill. </p> <p>If they don't know "What needs to happen" by now then they never will. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-322070 Wed, 05 Feb 2020 18:37:07 +0000 chdot 322070@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>New one next month</p> <p><a href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/edinburghs-bike-life-launch-tickets-92935698175" rel="nofollow">https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/edinburghs-bike-life-launch-tickets-92935698175</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266524 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:52:10 +0000 unhurt 266524@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Our National Parks are weird beasties though. We don't really treat them like national parks in Furren... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266521 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:37:07 +0000 I were right about that saddle 266521@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>the Scottish Government has the gumption to drive a £3bn dual carriageway through one of our two national parks</em></p> <p>True and, incredibly, very popular. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266510 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:10:27 +0000 chdot 266510@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4578/37705658234_a2fb07f17b.jpg"><a href="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4566/24547358168_110262700d_h.jpg"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4566/24547358168_9dc72a0f27.jpg"></a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266504 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:20:19 +0000 Frenchy 266504@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>From link: number of cars taken off the road is "the number of return cycle trips by people that could have used a car". </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266502 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:09:53 +0000 Stickman 266502@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Hard to believe that sort of number.</p> <p>Is that 'total trips by bike' - so some people/bikes doing more than one a day?</em></p> <p>Full explanation of all items in the report here: <a href="https://www.sustrans.org.uk/sites/default/files/file_content_type/bike-life-2017-data-sources-and-methodologies.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.sustrans.org.uk/sites/default/files/file_content_type/bike-life-2017-data-sources-and-methodologies.pdf</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266494 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:36:47 +0000 HankChief 266494@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>If you go to the actual Edinburgh <a href="https://www.sustrans.org.uk/bikelifeedinburgh">report</a> you see that most of the metrics for this year are in the same ballpark as 2 years ago.</p> <p>Some are slightly worse though (although not statistically significant) including 48% feel they should ride a bike more vs 54% in 2015. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266493 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:36:33 +0000 PS 266493@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>if they build train lines or bus lanes , its the private companies that gain the profit from it as public transport is not publicy owned.</em></p> <p>Eh? As opposed to the profits the government makes from the roads? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266491 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 16:23:36 +0000 chdot 266491@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“</p> <p>most people living in the seven cities say cycling is a good thing and are far more supportive of bold and ambitious plans for cycling than decision-makers often think</p> <p>“</p> <p><a href="http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/massive-survey-finds-that-75-of-brits-want-protected-cycleways-built/022183" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/massive-survey-finds-that-75-of-brits-want-protected-cycleways-built/022183</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266482 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:41:57 +0000 rider73 266482@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>well thats pretty much all the scottish government can do about traffic problems in terms of return on investment, build roads roads and more roads,<br /> if they build train lines or bus lanes , its the private companies that gain the profit from it as public transport is not publicy owned.<br /> and lets face it, buiding new rail lines is even more costly than cycle lanes! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266478 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:27:36 +0000 acsimpson 266478@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Neddie, somedays I wonder if that is the right interpretation of "dense" in that context. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266463 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:29:16 +0000 Morningsider 266463@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>IWRATS - well, the Scottish Government has the gumption to drive a £3bn dual carriageway through one of our two national parks. The money and political will can be found - although I do agree with your general assessment of the situation. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266453 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:02:58 +0000 I were right about that saddle 266453@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>That is very wry, @Morningsider. But which of our city elders will cast themselves as McJFK? </p> <p>The USA in 1962 had a sense of mission from the Cold War, a large economic surplus to dispose of (at least the white folks did), regional hegemony and dollars appearing from every oil well in the world. If (white) voters are convinced they're getting a fair basic deal then you can do <em>grands projets</em>. </p> <p>Scotland is rudderless, fractious and divided and I don't think we'll give government at any level consent for the small steps until the big problems are sorted. Everybody is (or feels they are) just struggling to get by now and scarce road space is a battleground in that struggle. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266445 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:50:21 +0000 Morningsider 266445@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Here's how a politician should approach "a challenge":</p> <p>"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." President Kennedy, 12 Sept. 1962.</p> <p>(<a href="https://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/ricetalk.htm" rel="nofollow">https://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/ricetalk.htm</a>)</p> <p>Of course, fitting cycle lanes into Edinburgh isn't much of a challenge for the city's transport planners. They have spent much of the last 50 years dealing with a far greater challenge - trying to accommodate as many cars as possible driving into and parking in a medieval/Georgian city. Sliding in a few 2m-wide cycle lanes shouldn't over tax them. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266434 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:17:15 +0000 neddie 266434@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>being realistic about the ability to deliver segregated lanes in such a dense urban environment</em></p> <p>It's because of all those really narrow streets like Leith Walk, North Bridge, George IV Bridge, Princes St, George St, Queen St, Lothian Rd, Queensferry Rd.</p> <p>So narrow they can only fit around 7 lanes of moving and stationary traffic on each...</p> <p>Hmmmm </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266432 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:15:23 +0000 I were right about that saddle 266432@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2017/nov/14/the-public-want-more-funds-for-uk-cycling-what-are-politicians-waiting-for">Everybody's mad for it but it isn't happening.</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266425 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:03:38 +0000 Frenchy 266425@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>Hard to believe that sort of number.</em></p> <p>Possibly, but maybe not.</p> <p>Population of 500 000, ~10% modal share. If everyone's making one journey a day, you'd naively expect 50 000 trips by bike every day, and 11 000 starts to look low, if anything. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266418 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:33:51 +0000 chdot 266418@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>"</p> <p>up to 11,762 cars taken off Edinburgh's roads by bicycles each day, equal to a 35-mile tailback</p> <p>"</p> <p>"up to"</p> <p>Hard to believe that sort of number. </p> <p>Is that 'total trips by bike' - so some people/bikes doing more than one a day? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18327#post-266416 Tue, 14 Nov 2017 10:32:09 +0000 I were right about that saddle 266416@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>45% of people live within 125m of a cycle route</em></p> <p>I'd think that's on the low side, assuming that by 'cycle route' they mean 'road'. </p>