http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Topic: Route help please: Haymarket Yards en Sun, 28 Jun 2026 01:13:59 +0000 http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265970 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 17:51:22 +0000 wingpig 265970@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p><em>"Anyone familiar with the cycle route shown on OSM that joins Wester Coates Gardens from the WoL walkway? I assume (based on knowledge of the steps from the WoL to Magdala Crescent) that it'll be quite steep? "</p> <p>"Yes, steep and muddy! Not sure I would call it a 'path', never mind 'cycle path'. "</em></p> <p>Didn't stop it being selected as part of the SPIECN, though.<br /> It's not <em>that</em> steep, but it's muddy enough to be too steep if it's too wet. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265958 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 16:23:50 +0000 claire3000006 265958@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Yes, steep and muddy! Not sure I would call it a 'path', never mind 'cycle path'. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265952 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:23:46 +0000 ejstubbs 265952@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>@gibbo: Thanks, that looks like an acceptable option. I actually wouldn't mind turning left on to the bike lane from Wester Coates Terrace to get to the Stanhope Street junction. It's right turns on busy roads that I prefer to avoid, and crossing on foot at the refuge could be a good solution to that, so thanks for pointing out that it's there!</p> <p>@Rosie: <em>Alas, alas that we didn't get a path connecting the NEPN and Magdala Crescent behind Donaldson's.</em></p> <p>Agree: that would have been perfect for me!</p> <p>Anyone familiar with the cycle route shown on OSM that joins Wester Coates Gardens from the WoL walkway? I assume (based on knowledge of the steps from the WoL to Magdala Crescent) that it'll be quite steep? </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265942 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:11:24 +0000 chdot 265942@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>“Mind you, some people do seem strangely antipathetic to having "their" roads used by a few of their fellow citizens for the apparently nefarious purpose of getting from A to B”</p> <p>Yes, footpaths too.</p> <p>“I know, I know: I'm probably taking a naively simplistic view of an issue which has already defeated the country's cleverest legal minds and most skilled diplomatic negotiators...”</p> <p>You do yourself a disservice.</p> <p>‘Though you make the mistake of assuming that clever minds were involved.</p> <p>More likely that no-one even bothered to look at it. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265940 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 13:30:58 +0000 gibbo 265940@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>One imperfect solution would be to leave Roseburn Path at W Coates Terr, then go W Coates Ave, W Coates Rd.</p> <p>Then, if you don't want to use the bike lane, wheel your bike 110m, then cross at the traffic island to get to Stanhope St. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265933 Wed, 08 Nov 2017 12:20:05 +0000 ejstubbs 265933@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>OK, thanks all for the local knowledge. Looks like I'll have to scope out an acceptable route in person before we up sticks.</p> <p>I think it would be a lot more straightforward if the Haymarket Terrace roadworks hadn't happened. If that mess wasn't in the way then I'd be happy to go all the way through Haymarket Yards and then hang a left along Haymarket Terrace.</p> <p>@Stickman: <em>no access from Balbirnie to Devon Place, and the "Vision" would need compulsory purchase on some land to get it.</em></p> <p>From online maps/Street View there seem to be places where there's nothing but an old wall, a bit of pavement and some grass between the two routes! Can't they just get some kind of agreement for access, rather than having to get a CPO? Or they could have made it a condition of the planning permission for the Devon Gardens development. (Mind you, some people do seem strangely antipathetic to having "their" roads used by a few of their fellow citizens for the apparently nefarious purpose of getting from A to B.)</p> <p>I know, I know: I'm probably taking a naively simplistic view of an issue which has already defeated the country's cleverest legal minds and most skilled diplomatic negotiators... </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265862 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:50:13 +0000 Edinburgh Cycle Training 265862@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>West Coates is fine traffic wise, its the surface thats rubbish! </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265854 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 19:19:53 +0000 Rosie 265854@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm pretty sure there's no cut through. I echo Stickman - I don't find Wester Coates too bad, &amp; commute on it, though not now with the present works at the Haymarket. </p> <p>Alas, alas that we didn't get a path connecting the NEPN and Magdala Crescent behind Donaldson's. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265848 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:39:43 +0000 Stickman 265848@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>I'm pretty sure there isn't access. This was one of the (many) problems with the "Roseburn Vision" - no access from Balbirnie to Devon Place, and the "Vision" would need compulsory purchase on some land to get it.</p> <p>To be honest I don't find Wester Coates too bad, especially if you are heading west to get to Balbirnie when the bus lane is in operation. If you really don't want to cycle on Haymarket Terrace then it isn't too far to walk from Haymarket Yards to Apex 3. </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265844 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:21:21 +0000 chdot 265844@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>OSM isn’t infallible, but I suspect not -</p> <p><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/55.94448/-3.22618" rel="nofollow">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/55.94448/-3.22618</a> </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265843 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:17:19 +0000 stiltskin 265843@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>Pretty sure you can’t access it from Devon Place,although I can’t remember going down there. I think there is a big wall in the way. Don’t know about the stairs </p> http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18341#post-265840 Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:06:17 +0000 ejstubbs 265840@http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/ <p>My office will be relocating to Apex 3 on Haymarket Terrace shortly. We are promised secure bike parking - hurrah. As far as I can see, access to same will be from Devon Place, off West Coates. I'd like to be able to get there without using either Haymarket Terrace or West Coates. It would seem logical that I should be able to do this from the Roseburn Path-Balbirnie Place-Haymarket Yards corridor, but I can't tell for sure on any maps whether there's a way through from there that would get me to Devon Place.</p> <p>Looking at Google Street View it <em>looks</em> as though there's a way through from the new Devon Gardens development that links up to Haymarket Yards, or else to the shared use path next to the tram tracks, but it appears that the Google car never actually went down Devon Gardens (<a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9450631,-3.2253306,3a,28.1y,183.66h,82.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHY1reOv3N1vRJmkTWrcw9w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656">link</a>).</p> <p>Alternatively, there is a mysterious-looking staircase which appears to lead down from Devon Place in the direction of Haymarket Yards (<a href="https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.9451413,-3.224075,3a,40.5y,120.99h,81.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9MLLcBwvK3nPsEN-m9buFQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656">link</a>) but I've no idea where it actually goes. In any case, having to heft the bike up a set of stairs would be a bit of a drag.</p> <p>Anyone know the area well enough to tell me whether there <u>is</u> a way through, or if I have to resign myself to mixing with the traffic on the main roads round there? </p>