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<title>CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum &#187; Topic: Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 01:29:33 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>HankChief on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 18:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Bit late to this, but how about POPP2018 - Pedal on Picardy Place?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;We could gather in the public space / common land...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Oh, wait a minute...
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<title>SRD on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 14:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;add at start:  two house doors open, close.  man/woman exits; one gets in car/one gets on bike. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;even better: one is a mom with kid on bike, drops at nursery, then on to work.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;manwhile car driver is trying tp force recalicitrant toddlr into car seat. 'no, don't wann'! &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;and on the way home, a basket of groceries...
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<title>paulmilne on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 13:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;chdot: &#34;Has SG stopped the various inane TV ad campaigns?&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wish they'd spend some money on more nane ones instead, just generally promoting cycling as a good thing. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Scenario: Morning traffic jam, with a proper segregated cycle lane next to it. Crowd of cyclists are at the light as car traffic light goes red. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Cyclist at front looks at the harassed driver and passengers in the front car, shakes his head with a sad look that says 'So sorry mate' and pedals off with the crowd when the cycling light changes. Crane shot shows cars in a solid jam ahead whilst cyclists are flowing freely. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Cut to office. The cyclist is at his desk looking fresh and productive as driver stumbles in late. Same pitying look from cyclist as driver walks past. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Appropriate tag line here.
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<title>chdot on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267623</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“I think that CEC reference refers to the nineteenth century layout, with a triangular block of buildings, rather than the actual effect of returning to the 1970s...]”&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Yes, and I think the roads were MUCH narrower.
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<title>PS on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 12:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;em&#62;I remain mystified as to why The Cockburn is (publicly at least) keeping well away from Picardy Place.&#60;/em&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Presumably they're big fans of Picardy Place &#34;returning the area to its historic layout&#34;?&#60;br /&#62;
[I think that CEC reference refers to the nineteenth century layout, with a triangular block of buildings, rather than the actual effect of returning to the 1970s...]
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<title>chdot on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267593</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“So we keep pushing and we try and reach beyond the 'us' ... “&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It’s been said many time -&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;‘Needs to be more unity/co-operation with other groups - esp walking ones.’&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This is definitely getting a lot better.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;PoP instigating Pedestrian On Parliament will have helped.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I remain mystified as to why The Cockburn is (publicly at least) keeping well away from Picardy Place.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Does Sustrans mail out PoP stuff to members?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;But it’s beyond ‘people we know’. It’s about attracting (and informing) people who might be thinking about “active travel” and those who have no idea what it might mean.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Has SG stopped the various inane TV ad campaigns?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wonder where the money goes now.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;PoP is SO much better value for money!,
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<title>chdot on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267591</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“So we keep pushing and we try and reach beyond the 'us' ... “&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I think it’s working.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No-one should underestimate Sally’s role in this.
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<title>sallyhinch on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;In September, I might have agreed with 'resting' POP in Edinburgh this year. But having looked at the Picardy Place stuff, it's clear that while we're making progress in small pockets of government, local and national, there are still pervasive structural forces at work that simply assume that the car is the only real means of transport. So we keep pushing and we try and reach beyond the 'us' ...
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<title>chdot on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267580</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 10:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;“Nice to put a few more faces to (CCE and other) names too.”&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I’m sure PoP must have plenty of non-CCEers involved - especially outside Ed - but it’s good to see the sort of people who ‘like’ CCE actively helping.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I had wondered if PoP should take a break in Ed next year (and concentrate energy/resources in other cities) but after recent events I think it’s important to keep reminding CEC and SG that Edinburgh is (wants to be) a cycling city.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;PoP is not like P4S.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The latter is a pleasant day out or a challenge.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;PoP is people coming together to show they want better - for themselves, their children and everyone who would like to cycle.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There was a time when “l would like to cycle, but” meant ‘not for me, too wet/hilly/other’.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now it’s clear there &#60;em&#62;really&#60;/em&#62; are LOTS of people who would cycle/more if there was decent infrastructure, less favouring of motors etc.
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<title>fimm on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267577</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sallyhinch, you have PM.
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267567</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 09:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Yes, a good and necessary meeting, thanks Sally. Good to feel the PoP vibe in November. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Also good to have someone say 'This must be the Scaffolding Bike™....' and for that person to turn out to be @Frenchy.
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<title>unhurt on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267547</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 01:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Thanks for organising. Nice to put a few more faces to (CCE and other) names too.
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<title>sallyhinch on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267537</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2017 00:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Looks as if we've (fingers crossed) got the nucleus of an organising group for Edinburgh (basically to replace what SRD used to do singlehandedly).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If anyone wants to be involved peripherally or more closely let me know and I'll send a Slack invite.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks to those who could make it - it wasn't a great night for travelling (especially as I got off the train at Lockerbie to discover it had been snowing!)
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<title>kaputnik on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sorry I missed this but you will see from my other thread that I ended up trying to provide some assistance to someone who had been de-biked on the NEPN.
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<title>gembo on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Happy to help with Ratho feeder if that is being repeated?
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<title>HankChief on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
<link>http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=18352#post-267509</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I can't be there either, but happy to lead a Corstorburn feeder with my merry band of helpers.
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<title>ARobComp on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Stuck on a late train  and would miss the entire meeting so going to head home to family. Maybe catch some of you at PY tomorrow for the &#34;goss&#34;
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<title>Greenroofer on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I can't come tonight, but I would be glad to support with an HP Feeder Ride as in previous years. Given the feedback we had from Council and Police this year, though, I am expecting that this will actually become part of the 'main event' along with the Corstorburn ride. Either way, happy to help where I can. Perhaps @Hankchief can update and involve me later as appropriate.
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<title>unhurt on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 17:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Definitely.
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<title>wingpig on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Probably.
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<title>kaputnik on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I think I can make it - I was going to something else but I think this is more important, so already have my pass for a few hours.
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<title>Frenchy on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'll be along.
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<title>Stickman on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Can't make it tonight but happy to help with an Edinburgh West feeder ride again.
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<title>chdot on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;&#34;Perhaps also return to the converging rides from distant parts&#34;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Did these ever stop?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just needs one person to say 'I'll be leaving X at about y' to make something happen.
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<title>I were right about that saddle on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;See you there.
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<title>sallyhinch on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Bump.
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<title>Tulyar on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Tulyar</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Sadly its clashing with Cycle Rail Awards in crowd-funded venue on site of former gin-palace.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One detail that might be considered us that it might be as much a celebration picnic that also reminds us and our MSP's what has been achieved, whilst remembering what efforts it has taken to get there (and remind them that we are still an engaged lobbying force)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Perhaps also return to the converging rides from distant parts
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<title>sallyhinch on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;No need to register, you can let us know if you're coming here but it's not crucial.
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<title>ARobComp on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hoping to be there!
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<title>russellelly on "Pedal on Parliament meeting 23rd November"</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I'll come along and see if I can be of use. Any need to register or anything like that?
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